I guess I need a Monero mining botnet.

. . . that only infects people who work for the IRS and the Treasury Department.

Mochi101 i disabled games in here because there were complaints

people can play them in the bot channels like ##wallet #walletbot or #tippero

Ooooh, no more duckycides ! yay :D

lol

Now moneromooo won't get to see people feed the ducks, either.

oh ducks are on safe list they're technically not in the games :D

Elon Musk is getting annoying

at this point "boy who cried wolf" has to be setting in. people should know better by now

getting? lol

Holy shit, i looked at the price of bitcoin and monero and they had a huge dip, whst happened ?

<Duvio "Holy shit, i looked at the price"> #monero-markets:monero.social

hey gang, I noticed that the sha sums on the Monero download page are for the new 20.1 release, but the link for the Linux GUI (maybe others?) still points to 20

jellyfishes: try to use a private window

this was wgetting the hashes.txt from a tail install, no caches in the way (in theory)

this was wgetting the hashes.txt from a tails install, no caches in the way (in theory)

just checked from a different PC and yeah they're the old SHAs

post the SHA sum

what is the hash of the downloaded bin and what does it say in hashes.txt?

72dfca40797201604a6b2fb97935037f62d3153360695cf732dee3d12e167da3 is what hashes.txt says

but the download for linux points to ee31d67f3df174cc88b01a528aa9d882504fb5f7ae805f449ff35820a4d45bbb

oh! important point - I'm on the .onion site

oh ok that explains it

how so?

someone has to fix the .onion site

ohhhh okay, cool

it's not updated properly

I'll leave it in your capable hands

(collectively capable that is)

I don't have access to fix this :D

but I messaged someone

I thought it was fixed already :/

thank you kindly

ciao, keep up the great work

what 20 release?

v0.17.2.0

mj-xmr: i made the changes to that PR, can you take a look when you get a chance? monero-project/monero #7707/files/21ff3b454f670ef1b0c25223d6505798ce776b4a..48a2a7b7915078a03af4cecbd034d2dc7553973c

Thanks!

.faucet

N​orkle: Of 7 ? 0, wh​ich is 0

0

Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.000025 XMR to Norkle [c8d030b8] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.0166467

KSaunderson: mj-xmr is not in this channel. Did you mean to post that in -dev?

nioc: hmm yes

Thanks

yw

Is it a good time to buy right now?

Or will it go down more?

good q

thoughts on suterusu?

ishikawa[m]: "time in the market beats timing the market"

Any word on when TARI will leave testnet and hit the market?

. beg

Me​tamorphosis: Of 2 a​nd 8, which is 8

8

Metamorphosis: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to Metamorphosis [08724e87] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.0166334

Just bought a 12 month sub to Mullvad VPN using Monero from ProxyStore.

Got to say it was private and quick to go through. If anyone is looking to do the same I highly recommend it.

proxystore?

unfamiliar

<raecarruth "proxystore?"> They’re a new reseller for Mullvad based in Germany. You can check the reseller page on Mullvad website.

link to proxystore site?

.duckcall

Metamorphosis: No duck for you! (Try tomorrow or add a bribe to the call)

.faucet

D​uvio: Snow White had how many dwarfs named Gr​umpy

1

Duvio: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000033 XMR to Duvio [42fa41e1] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.0166298

.help

Duvio: I'm a cool multi-coin multi-platform bot by Bill48105. Docs: bill48105.github.io/wallet | My core commands: .balance .deposit .faucet .ping .soak .tip .val .withdraw | .help <games|share|misc|other> to see others | .help <cmd> for more details.

It would take me 9 years to reach the withdraw minimum of 0.01 XMR

.duckcall

Duvio: No duck for you! (Try tomorrow or add a bribe to the call)

.bal

Metamorphosis: 0.00003177 XMR (≈$0.01)

Is using Bisq currently the most privacy-friendly way to buy/sell XMR for fiat or are there better alternatives?

localmonero.co is an option

thanks, I'll check that out.

Seems like localmonero.co requires JS to function, which is not recommended to do on the TBB.

is js worse than an entire app on your computer?

TBB?

.duckcall

Metamorphosis: No duck for you! (Try tomorrow or add a bribe to the call)

.faucet

​azy: Of 3​ + 4, which is 4

4

azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000038 XMR to azy [d236b12d] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.016626

.faucet

p​arazyd: Three Little Pigs + their​ houses

6

parazyd: @bonuspot tipped 0.000008 XMR to parazyd [0e97d64c] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.016618

.faucet

Mo​chi101: How long is the​ word hunt

4

Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000033 XMR to Mochi101 [16c83a9a] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.0166147

.balance

Mochi101: • Your balance is: 0.0000296 XMR (≈0.01 USD)

Mochi101: don't spend it all at once!

.balance doge

Mochi101: • Your balance is: 0.217 DOGE (≈0.09 USD)

.balance doge

azy: • Your balance is: 0.89 DOGE (≈0.35 USD)

woah

retirement ready

i can almost buy half a wow with that

azy: TBB = Tor Browser Bundle. There have been numerous attacks against its JS engine in the past, so yes, it's advisable to trust a dedicated app which has been scrutinized by auditors more than an entire browser.

ForeverNoob[m]: well you are already trusting localmonero to not steal your funds, what's a little JS on top of that? :P

wait so localmonero isn't a trustless exchange? I presume it works with multisig.

you presumed wrong :D

they hold onto the XMR and act as an escrow

and then you have to worry about the guy youre trading with scamming you

You're probably better off just giving your Monero to me.

mochi101⊙mi

thanks

i've got a dumb question...if i want to mine solo but have 2 pcs, is it possible to do it as one through a proxy, or both pcs can only solo mine separately?

kjd: you can set up xmrig-proxy if you want, or just connect two instances of xmrig to the daemon running on one pc

so A is running a daemon, and I just connect A+B with xmrig-proxy, and point xmrig-proxy to A's daemon?

azy: yeah but that's... with every exchange that deals with fiat.

would A's daemon be running mining? or just straight daemon...

best to use xmrig and not mine in the daemon. it's quite a bit faster and can apply some performance tweaks for you

ok, thanks, will try it out

Hello. How can one mine XMR with a laptop

best not to do that. it will have a weak CPU and it will throttle down through the heat

does anyone here have an estimate of what percentage of btc's energy consumption XMR would consume if they had the same global usage?

Over 9000

deep

Global energy consumption is a meme and you shouldn't get into the FUD

i'm not getting into the fud - the advantages of crypto far outweigh the costs in this regard

but i also don't think global energy consumption is just a meme

.balance

prof0und_madman[: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?

intuitively i'd say that for any decent pow algorithm it'd need to be about the same, since otherwise the difference would be that less work is done by miners, which would exclude one of them from being as decent as the other

.duckcall

prof0und_madman[: Access denied for duckcall. Are you logged in?

as far as i'm concerned, bringing global energy consumption down overall is a good thing, and keeping it down for crypto is especially a good thing, since a miner who needs less energy can get it from a greater variety of sources, increasing their resilience

large facilities often depend on a single central provider of a particular kind of energy, so that's a single point of failure

and i suppose greater energy usage overall also discourages people who make their own electricity from mining

and people who get their own energy to mine would also be contributing to decentralization in that way

Energy consumption does not depend on usage, it depends on price multiplied by emission.

More usage will probably increase price, but the function is very unclear.

which i perhaps wrongfully called 'usage' together

i suppose i should have said 'same parameters'

but regardless, i'd think the energy consumption would be the same in such a scenario, intuitively

seems about right or nah?

If the fiat equivalent per unit of time were the same, yes.

.duckcall

Metamorphosis: ・゜゜・。。​・゜゜(')> 🦆 'QUACK QUACK!!'

.bang

Metamorphosis: WOOSH! MISSED! Try again in 5 seconds Ratio: 34 of 53 Bullets: 1 of 2

.bang

Metamorphosis: YOU GOT IT! Time: ≈10.32 sec Lucky Duck! You get 0.00000001 XMR! [3bf5b1a3] Ratio: 35 of 54 Bullets: 0 of 2

.reload

Metamorphosis: You're reloaded with 2 bullets & 2 treats.

rip the recent stonks

Oh wait. Two shots ? Cheating.

I befriended the duck

<Joeri[m] "rip the recent stonks"> yup, my poor wallet's dollar value

.help

azy: I'm a cool multi-coin multi-platform bot by Bill48105. Docs: bill48105.github.io/wallet | My core commands: .balance .deposit .faucet .ping .soak .tip .val .withdraw | .help <games|share|misc|other> to see others | .help <cmd> for more details.

.help soak

azy: Help: .soak <amt|amtx#> [minutes] - Sends each active & bonustime user an equal share of soaked amount

.duckcall

azy: No duck for you! (Try tomorrow or add a bribe to the call)

pixelized[m]: energy consumption for the individual transaction is irrelevant and an arbitrarily set choice. the energy is put into securing the network

how weird : I updated the monero gui from  getmonero.org and the ledger app to the last ones (I shasumed before using). I successfully sent one very small transaction to an address. And wfen I was doing the second one (significant amount), the address written in the GUI was correct on the dialog to build the transaction but at the last step on the

ledger (after the "accpet change") the destination displayed was not the correct one. I canceled everything but its scary

Are you sending funds to an integrated address?

its an exchange

i am reading your post about the subject on reddit one year old

I will check with your answer about xmrllcoins.net etc etc

Please do

ok following your post, the address match standard XMR = the one displayed on the ledger

thanks and sorry for time

coppa wins 5 points for double checking things before sending

eheh :)

hello

hi

on pulls there is monero-project/monero #7661 that can be very useful for small cpu as raspberry etc

why is not added yet

nothing makes raspberry more useful. without hardware AES they will be too slow to keep up.

use pine64 or odroid

donate raspberry to the local CoderDojo, it's not useful for any real world work

++

good point i compiled successfully for arm Cortex-A53 but hardware aes is not working for unknowing reason

reason is not unknown. raspberry pis have no hardware AES support

they have never licensed it for any of their chips

i compiled for xiaomi 10 that has for sure hardware aes but crashed

<hyc "nothing makes raspberry more use"> i'm running a node on a rpi and it's fine so far

Best place to buy anonymously? I’ve just checked LocalMonero and a lot of ads are now asking for ID.

I wouldn’t be coming to LocalMonero site if I wanted to use ID

if you don't mind giving out a phone number you could use kucoin

bisq

how to insert this monero-project/monero #7661

<prof0und_madman[ "Best place to buy anonymously? I"> wait a short time for atomic swaps

bisq

Hey so I'm trying to sync the blockchain but every few seconds I get a new "Sync data returned a new top block candidate" for no reason and it's slowing the process down drastically.

Can you paste somewhere that won't get blcked by cloudflare (like paste.debian.net) ?

i use barely any of my vps' bandwidth. how can i allocate more to monerod ?

azy:monerod limit 999999

out/in_peers 99999

I'd like to create and not relay a tx using monero-wallet-rpc and then freeze its inputs so it remains valid or can be regenerated later

is it possible?

Set the relevant field (do_not_relay IIRC) on the tx. You don't know which outputs it's spending though, you'd need to add that info to the RPC response.

There's also no freeze/thaw RPC IIRC. Easy to add.

yeah I think the inputs need added to the rpc response

It can tell you the key images though IIRC. might be enough?

Hello folks new here

Love learning about Monero :)

.

hi

yeah that would work with the added rpc calls, but I don't see where key images are returned for unrelayed txs

I looked, it's not accessible. You get metadata as a blob.

presumably we would add a key_images field to the transfer and transfer_split responses which lists the key images for each tx?

Either that or the output indices.

this is hilarious, it seems like that hacked pipeline ransom was paid in <unspecified untraceable cryptocurrency> archive.is/HNYss

:/ Why is the world so shit...

the article was changed, they used BTC apparently

also nioc's tweet yea

It's like meta shit. There is shit. You try to fix the shit. Shit jumps to cling on the new stuff to make it shit too. Fuck the world.

our institutions are deteriorating

It's made of humans, that's what's wrong with it.

Fuck humans.

.duckcall

moneromooo: ・゜゜・。。​・゜゜(')> 🦆 'QUACK QUACK!!'

transitions are generally ..... not smooth

.feed

.befr

moneromooo: HE GOBBLED THE TREAT! Time: ≈7.97 sec Lucky Duck! You get 0.00000009 XMR! [4be7f5e7] Ratio: 2 of 2 Treats: 0 of 2

^_^

.befr

moneromooo: WTDuck you trying to befriend? They'll come when they're ready or try .duckcall

i mean, anything besides the status quo will feel different

nioc: damn it, I thought these guys were smart criminals, oh well, now they have the CIA on their ass, oh well

That's true. Poster child being revolutions. Even the succesful ones are only succesful way later. In the short term, they're all bloody messes.

someone suggested that the FBI probably suggested that they use btc

:)

tip moneromooo some cows

So the only way to get a revolution is when things are so bad people are ready to get a short term (ie, their lifetime) realm of death in order to give their children a small chance at something better.

Now that's a sobering thought.

definitely need to live with other beings in addition to humans

realm of death, now that's a weird choice of words.

I'm gonna make a meme, THINK CRYPTO RANSOMERS, USE A FUNGIBLE AND ANONYMOUS CRYPTOCURRENCY, THINK!

Fuck off already.

Realm of death makes sense

No choice but to fight ha

The ideal way forward would be a gentleman's agreement between the people and governments, where govts agree not to overstep. This would make things like monero basically not needed.

But I think the last person who believed in a govt's gentleman's agreement is now dead.

<moneromooo "So the only way to get a revolut"> thats wrong...revolutions usually happen when things get slightly better

So we get into this shitty arms race trying to protect what privacy we have left, and it gets coopted by the scum of the earth.

also the people that get involved in these kind of conflicts are usually idiots...

monero chads are smart

and wait

in the background

for the new order to emerge

This is really the Leia/Vader scene repeated again and again and again. The tighter you... can't recall the quote. The more slip or somrthing.

And in the meantime the people who are basically jst tryint to prorect thmeselves end up on th esame side as criminals. WTF ?

Just because the shitheads in govt couldn't see far enough and abide by the tacit agreement to leave some privacy to the people.

spirobel[m]: can you elaborate ? That suggests "when people get enough food again to be able to do anything else than survive", but I dunno :)

Granted, I'm kinda talking about old revolutions, the tens of years thing, not the more modern short things, but I will agree my knowledge of these is superficial.

<moneromooo "spirobel: can you elaborate ? Th"> i dont know where i read the quote...would have to google it to find it again. but basically people dont revolt when things are shitty and getting shittier.. they do it when they have a glimmer of hope.

also there are many examples

Sure, I can totally buy that, but it doesn't invalidate the original idea.

true maybe both right somehow but it sounds kinda doomer lol

Look at it with a large enogh time frame and it's really the same.

Hungry enough and you just spend all your calories finding more calories. Things rebound a bit and that's where you think you just have to do something about it.

nah i dont know... look at germany 89 for example...the people werent with the back to the wall the government was

Though in recent times "hungry" doens't apply to a number of civil disturbances, part of the world got a lot better.

i also think the times we live in are more similar to the chinese cultural revolution style changes

Now that's fairly pessimistic.

than the noble freedom fighters vs the gov kinda thing

i mean look at the dumb FFF kids and the burn loot murder crowds lol

But hey, we're lucky. We've safe enough that we fight for privacy rather than food.

FFF ?

they even had mao red book reference recently with the blm leader

<moneromooo "FFF ?"> the great thunfish thing... more popular in europe lol

That really didn't help at all :D I'll look it up.

the climate doomers

lol

frydays

the brainwashed kids

you know what i am talking about lol

school strikes ?

but basically that is cultural revolution shit not the normal freedom fighter things

moneromoo: fridays for future, which is is pretty much a bona fide astroturfing movement for climate activism

Yes, found that.

Astroturfing from whom ?

the similarities: some crazy adults are in power of the media and the education system (same with mao back then) they gave him the supposedly unimportant space of education and he managed to fuck up everything by brainwashing the kids into turning the country to shreds

<semisimple "moneromoo: fridays for future, w"> its much more than that and it gets increasingly crazy leftist they talk about lockdown for climate and the jews (israel) lol

and in merica you got the blm crowds

sigh

it will be fun to watch lol

monero chads will survive

for whom? basically the whole climate change movement, i.e. green parties all across the globe, NGOs, it is little more than populism

its changing very quickly and its infiltrated by radical leftists

happend before with the pirate party in germany

all of these "activists" are sheltered individuals, who make 2-3 international travel trips per year to "find themselves", it is a charade

these people are verywhere and they are serious about this shit

also they hold positions in state and corporate media

<semisimple "all of these "activists" are she"> naaaah many of these are also radical leftist that do this as a lifestyle

mixed in with criminals

this is cope by the boomers that didnt realize what train we are on

its CULTURAL REVOLUTION TIME haha

#monero-conspiracies

<selsta "#monero-conspiracies"> yeah its fiery but mostly peaceful protests 😋

I would not give a shit about them, but more than likely they will also be the first to try to outlaw crypto, because "it is bad for the environment", needless to say they are useful idiots for the finanical elite, who want to keep the status quo in the finanical world

<semisimple "I would not give a shit about th"> what do you mean by financial elite?

soros?

Looks like we reached kookville in ten minutes flat

18:38 < gingeropolous> our institutions are deteriorating

Depending on what you mean, that might be a good thing.

(long run)

well theyve been doing it for a while

18:43 < nioc> definitely need to live with other beings in addition to humans

e.g. aliens

i think its mostly the lizardpeople lol

they are everywhere but I like them <an undisclosed amount>

apotheon: Cats, Dogs, Cows

almost all mammals and birds

they know what is important

humans got lost

That's why I stopped being human.

I'm transhuman, now.

<nioc "apotheon: Cats, Dogs, Cows"> thats the stuff the lizardpeople eat for breakfast lol

10 years ago when the census person came to my door the last question was, what race are you? I replied, if you want to pigeon hole me put me down as mammal

they stared blankly at me

octopodes and porpoises and space aliens; they need love, too

porpoises are mammals

. . . and?

haven't seen space aliens

breaking news

earth is in space

Sure, but we don't have to travel through space to get to Earth.

only because earth travels through space

That doesn't actually address what I said.

nice place we got here

shame if something should happen to it

I'm still reserving judgement on whether it's a nice place.

"Earnest Hemingway once wrote 'The world is a find place and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."

- William Somerset, in Se7en

hyc: Do you mind if I PM you about Monero stuff?