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bishgens[m]
i will try remote node first. feel bad for downloading 30gb over Tor
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bishgens[m]
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bishgens[m]
i will take my chances
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bishgens[m]
great. i am running with remote node now. how much data is being downloaded? it says 20 million wallet blocks remaining
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bishgens[m]
uh wait
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moneromooo
If you're using one with tor, it's not too bad. It can just DoS you really.
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bishgens[m]
not having much luck with the main one mentioned here. I'll keep trying various .onion nodes
moneroworld.com/#nodes
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bishgens[m]
f*ck it, i will just run my own
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sethsimmons
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sethsimmons
Three high performance onion nodes there.
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u29601mg6ba93j[m
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u29601mg6ba93j[m
Easier for newcomers to install grapheneos now. Remember they accept monero donations!
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u29601mg6ba93j[m
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gingeropolous
<bishgens[m]> f*ck it, i will just run my own >>> thats the ticket.
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gingeropolous
to promote decentralization, run centralized services shittily
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gingeropolous
(tm) (c) 100% stamp
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bishgens[m]
sethsimmons: thank you!
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mechanic41turk[m
<u29601mg6ba93j[m "
twitter.com/GrapheneOS/s"> That's cool ngl
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pyu
in #monero-dev
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bunny_the_lifegu
With great reset looming, how resistant is xmr to govs trying to make it illegal, is it even possible at all? How would one get xmr if they decide to do something like that? 😬
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hyc
what great reset?
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mechanic41turk[m
<bunny_the_lifegu "With great reset looming, how re"> how would you enforce such a law against monero? It is open source and distributed freely. Furthermore, its on-chain data is encrypted, and doesn't leave breadcrumbs for the LE to follow back to its users. For acquiring Monero, you can mine for it, or use exchange services to hop from Bitcoin to Monero.
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bunny_the_lifegu
<mechanic41turk[m "how would you enforce such a law"> Can't they just prevent exchanges from offering xmr altogether? So one could not swap other cryptos for xmr, no?
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Quotes
CRYPTO IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY ಠ_ಠ ~ IT REFERS TO CRYPTOGRAPHY, bunny_the_lifegu
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mechanic41turk[m
<bunny_the_lifegu "Can't they just prevent exchange"> Yes, they can coerce the centralized exchanges from listing monero. However, you will still have smaller scaled exchange services like fixedfloat. In addition to that, we still have decentralized exchange, bisq, and trade facilitating services like local monero.
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mechanic41turk[m
Furthermore, the introduction of atomic swaps will also add one more route for moving from Bitcoin into Monero.
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bunny_the_lifegu
never heard of atomic, will have to look up that one
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mechanic41turk[m
Look into that. It's promising.
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bunny_the_lifegu
but with all that censorship going on recently, I'm more confident in xmr than crap like btc
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bunny_the_lifegu
if even drug dealers are using it, you know it's anonymous xD
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mechanic41turk[m
oh xmr has a great upwards potential.
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mechanic41turk[m
look around you -- you see nothing but mass-censorship.
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bunny_the_lifegu
will get worse
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bunny_the_lifegu
only the beginning right now
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bunny_the_lifegu
so if i for example buy ltc at a local crypto atm, load it on my phone and eg use edge wallet to convert it to xmr and from there send it to the final xmr wallet, this should suffice, right?
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mechanic41turk[m
I am no expert, but sounds good.
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bunny_the_lifegu
how about the same scenario but this time ltc or something else from kraken > edge > convert > final wallet
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mechanic41turk[m
didn't use edge wallet btw
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bunny_the_lifegu
edge has a neat converrt functionality, but for mobile i would go with cake wallet i guess
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bunny_the_lifegu
* edge has a neat convert functionality, but for mobile i would go with cake wallet i guess
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kish
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kish
what yhe duck!
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kish
wtf!
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mechanic41turk[m
nice fud bro
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kish
is there somethinynew being developed that is like monero but can't currently be traced?
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kish
i don't want the irs to know i am tax dodging
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kish
paying taxes to the us regime is highly immoral
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mechanic41turk[m
just use monero.
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bunny_the_lifegu
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mmxxx[m]
<bunny_the_lifegu "for reals?"> no.
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mmxxx[m]
it's horseshit
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mmxxx[m]
why bring it up an old article?
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hyc
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mmxxx[m]
* why bring up an old article?
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bunny_the_lifegu
niceu
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kish
This provides ways to track stolen Monero currencies or Monero currencies used in illegal transactions. It also helps assure cryptocurrency exchanges, OTC trading desks, investment funds and custody providers that they do not accept Monero from illicit sources and investigate Monero received from potentially illicit sources and take appropriate actions to stay in compliance.
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kish
how do we know this claim is false
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kish
these*
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kish
it's very worrying to me
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dEBRUYNE
Check the tweet hyc linked
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WhiteNoise[m]
<mechanic41turk[m "didn't use edge wallet btw"> Any issues with Edge wallet?
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mechanic41turk[m
no idea.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Thought u said that because of some privacy concern 😬
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mechanic41turk[m
nope
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UkoeHB
kish: mobilecoin is at least ‘potentially’ untraceable, although there are other trade-offs to consider
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kish
news saya signal is thinking about mobilecoin
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kish
heh as if the goverbment cannot break signal ;)
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vzzhvnar
twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683
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vzzhvnar
Last time I got an award like that was in a primary school football team. It had three stars too and said that I'm special :')
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vzzhvnar
I just binned it though instead of showing it off to naive groupies. What kind of preson takes a group achievement award and presents it as a proof of their individual prowess anyway?
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Mochi101
Congrats on your award hyc
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hyc
lol thanks
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hyc
that was ~27 years ago. not like it's really relevant today
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Mochi101
Only 27 years ago?
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Mochi101
Still celebrating then?
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Mochi101
:D
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hyc
;)
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styxx[m]
how do i restore a CLI wallet with the seed phrase?
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moneromooo
monero-wallet-cli --restore-deterministic-wallet
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styxx[m]
thanks
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styxx[m]
the blockchain is 97 gb right now, is that correct?
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Mochi101
102
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Mochi101
no
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Mochi101
sorry... I have a stagenet chain in there too
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Mochi101
97 yes
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Inge-
97 here too
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mechanic41turk[m
what is the growth rate of the chain?
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Inge-
pretty slow
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Inge-
someone had some daily averages
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Inge-
avg blocksize around 56KB maybe? and 720 blocks/day on avg .. 40MB/day?
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mechanic41turk[m
thanks
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Inge-
-ish
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mechanic41turk[m
so 1 GB per month?
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Inge-
a bit over maybe.. about 14.5GB/year currently
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mechanic41turk[m
<Inge- "a bit over maybe.. about 14.5GB/"> thanks, was trying to estimate per year increase
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Inge-
Do note that there has been a growth in transactions, so the speed of growth will likely increase somewhat over time as well
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mechanic41turk[m
yep
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uuuu01[m]
hello, is this the place to ask about monero gui?
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uuuu01[m]
i'm experiencing odd behavior using monero gui with trezor and i'm not sure if it's a bug, feature an attempt to steal my coins.
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moneromooo
Here or #monero-gui is ok.
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Inge-
ask away - if anyone knows, they will try to reply
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uuuu01[m]
when i create a transaction in gui, i'm prompted on trezor to confirm it. however, i noticed that the address displayed below the sum isn't the one i pasted in the app.
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moneromooo
Are you sending to an integrated address ?
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uuuu01[m]
i am, most likely. the address is 106 chars long.
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uuuu01[m]
is there a way to tell for sure?
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moneromooo
This is likely the reason, assuming the address displayed is the actual address. You can check by running this in monero-wallet-cli: integrated_address X
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moneromooo
And replace X by the integrated address in question.
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uuuu01[m]
nice. i see that the address really is an integrated address. i'll see if the address matches the one on trezor's screen.
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uuuu01[m]
thanks for helping me out.
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Inge-
And good on you for being careful!
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styxx[m]
grayscale is opening a fund for monero
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styxx[m]
so we may see a hard pump eventually
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styxx[m]
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styxx[m]
i have the info from the dollar vigilante initially
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styxx[m]
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bunny_the_lifegu
1000% xD
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styxx[m]
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styxx[m]
thats why we need DeFi
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styxx[m]
* thats why we need decentralization
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bunny_the_lifegu
Oh one can buy xmr on kraken? So if I use a sub-address on my wallet for transfer it should be fine, no?
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Mochi101
yes that's fine bunny_the_lifegu
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bunny_the_lifegu
nice, thanks fren! :)
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Inge-
styxx[m]: All they have done is register a Trust with Delaware - which means they are *considering* it. They might never actually do it.
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Inge-
styxx[m]: you can see for yourself, search for Grayscale here:
icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch.aspx - they also registered another 4 on the same date
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styxx[m]
<Inge- "styxx: All they have done is reg"> thats why i wrote "eventually"