run it in screen

+1

Write your own init.

i was under the impression the monero.service file was included because it was the recommended way to do it. But i'll look into writing my own init

thank you

:D

It's supposed to work. There's also a rewrite on github, not merged yet. Might have more luck with that.

cool, thanks for the insight

yay, my script works now

turns out u can use no chain, so your node reports 1, so AHP also report 1

has the benefit of running alongside monerod , so you don't have to stop your daemon and pop blocks to find AHP

gingeropolous: <3

gingeropolous: like I said, don't think it is a good idea to do this with 0 or 1

1 is better already but you want some unique number to avoid false positives

afaik when peers connect they initially also display 1

soo you will get a lot of false positives

Does it have to be a valid block height?

okay, they initially display 0 not 1

still seems risky to me

gingeropolous: this is my latest list if you want to compare paste.debian.net/hidden/556c14fb

TamaraneanGirl: depends on how these nodes are programmed

You can try with a chain at height 3 or so. monerod sync chunks of 100 (or 200) blocks, so 3 will pretty much never be a real mainnet height.

But you might want to try, say, 15, then reconnect and claim 13. See if it went down too.

Following up earlier discussion of a few hours ago, I would just like to report that I managed to connect to my monerod running remotely over ssh tunnel. So that on the monerod server (VPS) the only port that is open to the Internet is SSH (actually my setup is much more complicated, but anyway)

every single node in my list is OVH hosted

The ssh command looks like this: "ssh -Ngf -L 18081:127.0.0.1:18081 -p xyz myuser@mypublicip" (where xyz is 22 by default, but you may have changed it)

In my case the VPS is actually a container on a server with multiple IPs, so I NAT one of its public IPs to it the container running monerod and bitcoind etc.

The idea was to handle your wallet on a system with minimal Linux installation (e.g. TAILS or some custom LiveUSB) where you only have to copy the monero-wallet-cli binary and open outgoing traffic to only one ip:port, that of your own VPS running sshd/monerod.

yeah i remember the 0 thing, must've read over the 1 for some reason selsta.

Whats the best way to have a monero wallet on tails

Monero gui or cli?

aaaaaaaaaaaa whatever you feel more comfortable using I guess

cli has more options, gui is arguably easier

when you download the gui I think you also get the cli too, so

#monero-support is now active. A bot will take the newest posts to /r/monerosupport and post them there.

Why make a chatbot for the Reddit posts?

decentralization

;)

We've had a huge surge in users needing support, and I'm trying to find ways to streamline the process

this is my modqueue today

You should be paid for that service needmoney90.

does monerod support use over proxy?

Paying mods is such a slippery subject

AutoModerator doesn't seem to sleep, I wonder who he is.

How does 7k per month sound needmoney90 ?

I would help you needmoney90 but reddit decided to nuke my account for unknown reasons

shit, if I got 7k/month I would be soooo happy to deal with this

7k piconeros

But convincing the community to pay for moderation would be a tough sell, and I doubt the mods themselves could introduce any sort of proposal that wouldn't be publicly panned

I should stop procrastinating and learn a programming language

the whole "but I would do it for free" thing, but with power thrown in the mix

Mochi101 can pay you out of his pockets

learn haskell

Isn't that obscure?

It's a veiled joke vp11

Mochi101 ;)

I was thinking C, C++, and Python as a script language

I think needmoney90 gets it though.

haskell probably isn't obscure but relative to C++ you could say

Rust may be the hot new thing though

if you are interested in normie programming then definitely C/C++/Java/Python gotta catch 'em all

Rust is very hot right now

the new C++

Hot rust.

C is holy though

Rust has many attractive features. I've seen it put to use to good effect where people otherwise would have used C++.

RIP Terry

holyc is its own language

Terry (pbuh) is missed by many.

Then there's GUI frameworks

C/C++ is excellent in the hands of experienced and meticulous programmers. Things can also go South real fast if you aren't sure of what you're doing

but all programming requires those general skills

I want to make my first project an input tarpit

I still havent run Temple

I need to some day

Instead of opening up a text editor to write messages, you can just call the input tarpit from a keyboard shortcut, helpful for not getting keystrokes tracked

needmoney90: I tried it the first time smoe months ago when I figured out virtualization lol

I learned AlgolW

templeos?

yes, its written in HolyC by Terry

it's fun but it's basically a DOS game, without DOS

did you see the documentary about it and him? whoa.

I've seen stuff, I feel sorry for the guy

id never heard about the whole thing so i was extra shocked.

society failed him

anyways, the doc is on youtube. been meaning to watch the other docs that person did. just havent got around to it yet.

but yeah does monerod support something like socks5 or should I just run it remotely

kinghat: I think I saw it but if you find the link you can send it to me

I like history

LTT did a thing on the OS: youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A

has the monero gui wallet ever shown mining temporarily suspended to anyone here ? if so can you tell me why it does that

thanks

Anthony is great

I can't seem to find information about --tx-proxy in term of what its options are

marmulak: github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…TY_NETWORKS.md#outbound-connections

thanks

it appears that monero is being targeted here; the daemon seems not to sync anymore, and I see they are attempting a mitm attack on getmonero.org

marmulak: what version daemon are you using?

v0.17.0.0-819f9e1d9 (should be latest master)

you need to update, there was a bug where anyone offline during the fork can't sync past the fork height

nodes online at the time allowed old style transactions to be in a block after they were disallowed

I tried --tx-proxy very simple (like 127.0.0.1:8080) but it quits saying main threw an exception

oh I'll see if I can rebuild it then

marmulak: do you want to use tx-proxy with tor or i2p?

marmulak: rebuild latest v0.17.1.1 or release-v0.17 branch

also there is no mitm on getmonero

you might have to update your OS if there are certificate issues

selsta: neither technically, just a socks5 proxy (ie ssh). tor uses socks5 too I think

tx-proxy is for either tor or i2p

as for mitm, the "man" in this case is between me and getmonero.org, not between you and it :p

e.g. if you run tor with 9050 socks proxy you have to add

--tx-proxy tor,127.0.0.1:9050

I rebuilt monero but there were no updates in git master, it's still v0.17.0.0

yea, you have to build latest release branch

oh I see

master is a bit behind

which usually is not the case

why is it called master -_-

lol

ok I can change brenches

oh fun, if I tell it my socks5 is "tor" it works :D

now it's syncing even without the update

make sure to still use latest release branch :D

I will update it now

you will also have to add tor peers as we don’t have seed nodes yet

--add-peer xwvz3ekocr3dkyxfkmgm2hvbpzx2ysqmaxgter7znnqrhoicygkfswid.onion:18083 --add-peer zbjkbsxc5munw3qusl7j2hpcmikhqocdf4pqhnhtpzw5nt5jrmofptid.onion:18083

yes but I'm not actually using tor ;)

although I can experiment with that later

ah I thought you wanted to try tor :P

it might be worth trying although it would look more suspicious on my end

hmm now it's syncing but I don't know if it's because I updated the binaries or if it's because I connected once over proxy and it discovered new peers or something

because it had started syncing over proxy before I updated

WARNING: no two valid DNS TXT records were received

would this be related to syncing issues

Are there any resources I can use if I want to point out issues with Bitcoin privacy? Say if I want to show that I can see that someone sent money to some business?

marmulak: would not be related

might be related to incorrectly setting up proxy

thanks

no it happens without proxy, probably due to internet censorship

you can enter sync_info to get more information

what are DNS TXT records for?

updates, afaik also seed nodes but don’t think this is used correctly

currently

cool

I should check to see if I'm connected to any seed nodes

ok that's definitely a no, I bet all the seed nodes are blocked

what does status say?

how many in / out peers?

I'm connected to peer just no seed nodes. Firewall prevents incoming connections but outgoing is currently 9

no problem

ok 9 out peers is enough

which block height are you on? does it move?

more than enough

oh ya it's syncing

I'm at 99%

last time I synced was less than a week ago which is why I was surprised it stopped working one day

but I think it just wasn't able to connect to peers, maybe it needed to contact a seed node first to find more and couldn't connect

I don't know it's weird, because it would say downloading blocks and even at what speed but then no block synced, until I enabled --tx-proxy then suddenly it starts syncing

makes you wonder

 --tx-proxy is not syncing related

it is only used for tx propagation

interesting

v0.17.1.0 had a sync bug

maybe that’s why

well it 17.0.0

hadn't updated yet

it could just be random bad internet

that spontaneously resolved on its own

just annoyed I let it run all night and it synced nothing lol

while I have you, --block-sync-size doesn't affect disk operations, right? It's just network level

usually not necessary to change this

I usually lower it if syncing is very slow (mainly because of my slow hard drive) just so I can watch it happen

don't know if that affects anything like performance or file system operations

I assume it's the same result

although it's crossed my mind that handling blocks in batches might help reduce file system overhead somehow, but then that doesn't make sense to me when I think about it

db probably doesn't care about that

my hard drive... my biggest store of data, my biggest enemy

donate.torproject.org/cryptocurrency -- anyone else noticed the XMR address is gone? been like this for a couple of days. wondering if anyone knows what happened?

Monero is on the list but empty?

maybe they put it on maintenance during the fork

I think one of the foundation employees commented that they were performing wallet maintenance

yeah i thought it might be fork related, the timing is suggestive

but still.. weird. it's not like the addr changes

maby it's a canary

I've seen a number of people asking TOR about it on twitter since maybe 1-2 weeks, but they never answer

Anybody knows anything about this issue? reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jep773…ated_updates_to_user_guides/g9fmxuz

<kayront "donate.torproject.org/cr"> I sent them an email a while ago and got the following back: "Hello! We had to take the Monero wallet offline for a bit while we fix an issue with it, which is why it's currently blank. It should be back soon. Thanks for supporting Tor." .. maybe someone could give them some support in fixing the issue... :/

That was like 4 weeks ago

So shouldn't be fork related

need windows tech help with the wallet cli

I'm getting an error

Error: Failed to initialize ring database: privacy enhancing features will be inactive

i run .\monero-wallet-cli.exe --data-dir f:/mypath

on github there is an issue but it was resolved by running as admin, but if i do that it wont load from my data directory path (f:/mypath)

Does it not run properly?

Afaik it is simply an informational message and doesn't inhibit one from using monero-wallet-cli

Hello everyone, me again.

it runs properly yes, sends and receives

Does anyone know who hosts the telegram monerotipbot?

linuxn00b: Then you can ignore the error

ok

hi y'all. i got the background mining setup on my wallet-gui and changed the target cpu and its working great. i am wondering if there is a way to specify the sub-address to send the block rewards to when they start pouring in? thanks

It has to be the main address.

ok cool. thanks.

moneromooo: tried to ping you in #monero-community:matrix.org but you were not to be found. have you seen: veloren.net before?

The name does not ring a bell.

voxel rpg game

It looks very nice.

^ not related

I made a program in Python that has buttons that do nothing. I am unstoppable.

nice

<TamaraneanGirl "I made a program in Python that "> kudos! :D

I see Veloren has reached a new level of fame

its just one of those days id rather make stupid bash scripts....

you can do amazing things in bash

it all comes full circle

argh! what is this shit in my height variable

033 [ 0 m 5 1 0 1 \n

033[0m mY ASS!

this is text color control sequence

thanks

Bash is just a glorified pipe

<TamaraneanGirl "Bash is just a glorified pipe"> yeah and a quite ugly one... but it's everywhere, out of the box lol

thats why i like it the most

I guess bash is more like glue actually

selsta, u'll be happy. i modded the script so it doesn't just check for "1"'s

nice

im hesitant to put this out in the wild, for instance, on reddit. this can help linux users, but non-tech users can't use it

though it could be good for remote node operators to use it, and most of them are prolly linux

gingeropolous: what does your script do? :D

gingeropolous: fwiw after I have banned ~120 of these I don't seem to get them anymore

1. creates a secondary short monerod blockchain. 2. uses this chain to connect to peers. 3. finds peers that mirror this short blockchain height 4. blocks those peers in the systems primary monerod 5. goto 1

So it tries to identify and block bad/malicious nodes?

well, just bad/malicious nodes that use the mirror technique

Nice

Btw I check peers using netstat (-ntp), is there a way to do it from monerod ?

sync_info ...

i wonder why they mirror the response instead of taking the most common block height of all their peers

that’s my list ^^

all of them OVH so most likely one person

then they'd probably have to run monerod , but i dunno asymptotically

they'd just need to implement the p2p protocol in their own program

if you only have these peers you will stop syncing due to being on the same height?

not sure

What could be their motives? I assume it's not due to outdated monerod?

do chainanalysis use ovh? :P hard to tell since their site is hiding behind buttflare

spying, sabotage

@selsta I seem to remember a comment from moneromooo to a user who was stuck to an old height, and was advised to delete p2p file.

Because those bad nodes only referred him to other bad nodes.

is there still a block explorer on the old chain?

hrm, i dunno

Centralization is great. twitter.com/Cleroth/status/1318911490863337472

Inge-: twitter.com/miguelytob/status/1315749803041619981

this one is ridiculous too, this guy works at google lol

<bobby> hi

<bobby> i used coinswitch.co/pro/dashboard/exchange and i transfers my bitcoin into monero. The coins havent sent and their support team told me to contact you guys. Is there any help i can get.

Do you have a transaction hash for the Monero transaction?

<bobby> yes i do

<bobby> can i post it in here?

Not yet

Can you first check if you can see it on a block explorer?

Just came back to report that 2 out of 12 peers of my monerod were in fact bad/malicious. They are seemingly stuck ~600 blocks back and are both OVH dedicated (according to whois). I would imagine that TPTB do that to "map" the Monero nodes.

After blocking them (iptables fw) I now have 12/12 peers showing same correct blockheight.

<bobby> do i paste the hash into the explorer?

<bobby> on this localmonero.co/blocks/search/37a65b…fa7a54f23a13e239f8155687711f1c8c1ad ?

<bobby> \\

AFAIK monerod doesn't offer a feature to block a bad/malicious peer, so I'd have to do it at the system (firewall) level, right?

monerouser1144: "ban ip duration"

but it gets reset after restart

bobby: transaction looks okay

which wallet are you using?

<bobby> gui wallet from monero website

@selsta Great, kudos to the developers again. I'll use it next time I spot a bad peer.

Can you go to Settings -> Log and type "status"

and post the output here

<bobby>

<bobby> i did it yesterday

Can you do it again? I don't know what you posted yesterday

Hmm, another bad peer showed up (IP not from OVH), this one is just 2 blocks behind "synchronizing". Despite the fact that I invoked monerod with "--in-peers 0".

monerouser1144: that does not sound like a bad peer

the previous one you posted also does not sound malicious as both of them don't mirror your height

<bobby> [2020-10-21 3:18 PM] 2020-10-21 22:18:43.145 I Monero 'Nitrogen Nebula' (v0.16.0.3-release)

<bobby> Height: 1, target: 1 (100%)

<bobby> Downloading at 4 kB/s

<bobby> Next needed pruning seed: 1

<bobby> 1 peers

<bobby> 54.39.75.52:16138 0000000000000000 before_handshake 0 0 4 kB/s, 0 blocks / 0 MB queued

<bobby> 0 spans, 0 MB

<bobby> []

You have to update to v0.17.1.1

<bobby> yourmom123

<bobby> [2020-10-21 3:29 PM] 2020-10-21 22:29:57.421 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.1-release)

<bobby> Height: 1, target: 1 (100%)

<bobby> Downloading at 12 kB/s

<bobby> Next needed pruning seed: 1

<bobby> 2 peers

<bobby> 178.62.112.215:18080 0000000000000000 before_handshake 0 0 0 kB/s, 0 blocks / 0 MB queued

<bobby> 54.39.75.52:16138 ef9f24d1d1fc34c7 normal 0 0 12 kB/s, 0 blocks / 0 MB queued

<bobby> 0 spans, 0 MB

<bobby> []

Can you post it on paste.debian.net ? This does not display correctly over IRC

also once you updated to the new version wait a bit for it to synchronize

@selsta, OK but it seemed odd that one peer is stuck for 10+min at 2213534 (2-3 blocks behind) "synchonizing" and another peer at block 1 as "normal". Anyway, I don't care much, as I don't do mainnet tx (I don't have any xmr yet).

<bobby> 1.545371271802

<bobby> somehow i have my monero now

<bobby> thank you so much

glad it showed up, monero had a network upgrade so the old version stopped working

monerouser1144: can have various reasons why they are stuck but don't think banning them is necessary as they don't seem malicious

Could they be under attack as well, and are transmitting the static block height to other peers

or they are nodes started with --no-sync

If I am running a node, with no special configuration, are other peers looking to me to get a consensus of the blockchain?

yes

So my idea could be possible

@selsta please have a look paste.debian.net/1168201

no need to ban them

no need to ban them

OK, I won't ban them. But will monitor them for the next few days.

Btw BTC just made multi-month new highs, breaking $13k.

wrong channel ^

did monero go up too?

that would be cool

.usd

Ummm what are you talking about man? BTC went to like almost $20k a couple years back. $13k isn't a high.

I mean it's nothing to shrug off, but it's not the higgh

LOL

@riceandbeans if you're responding to me, I wrote "multi-month new highs", not "all time highs" (ATH). But as hyc noted, this is a topic for another channel.

i'm on tails gui monero, it says "synchronizing wallet" and the progress bar has hung at zero for ages. underneath it says "daemon is synchronized". will this impede me from receiving a payment?

multifractal_: which node are you connected to?

selsta: a remote node - how do i find its name?

Does Settings -> Node menu exist?

hello