how do you get your gui wallet to update to the newest wallet ? I downloaded it literally the other day and it sync forever then said its at 100 percent but not fully sync then right afterwards the gui on the monero site is updated to the new version . I already sent coins to my wallet from another wallet . So I need to be able to use the same

address I had before .

Just download the new version and continue.

There's no incompatible change.

it says to create a new wallet

its the old wallet i want not a new one

Pretty sure it's an option.

You can create or load an existing one.

how do i load it though

For the UI I imagine there's a button to load. If you can't find one, you can always use the command line one: monero-wallet-cli --wallet-file /path/to/the/old/wallet

Or wait for omeone who uses the GUI who'll know where the button is.

"Open a wallet from file" -> Select your wallet

not sure what file your talking about though i used the appimage and used the old one in portable mode . So im not sure where the file i need to load would be

Your wallet. It wasn't a RAM only wallet I hope.

(You can recreate it from the seed you saved if so)

bow2me26: if you used portable mode you have to move the monero-storage folder

I found the storage folder on the old one and found the key files there . Now if i tell it to use the old keys file will it use the old storage file . Or will all the blockchain and data be moved to the new one automatically so i can delete my old version ?

The chain stays where it is. If you want to remove the previous directory, move your wallet out first.

The chain's in ~/.bitmonero (or wherever else on windows, but not where you put your binaries and wallet, most likely)

c:\programdata\bitmonero

in portable mode the "monero-storage" folder is in the same directory as the monero-wallet-gui.exe

linux not windows

fuck windows, use linux!

bow2me26: just move "monero-storage" to your from your old gui folder to the new one and everything should be good

after I move the file since its no longer where its at now id have to follow the same steps but with the new one to make it work after the move correct ?

use keys in new dir instead or the original one which i had to point it at to before

if it wasnt for the huge blockchain redownload id just use keys and let it do its thing fresh

I sure hope this thing shows the money I added to it when it finishes the sync

Ive tried scanning what was already downloaded and it doesnt show it yet

The cli version of the wallet says you can get rpc pay and make money on it according to the website . Will the gui wallet it allow you to do it go ? Ive downloaded both have tried cli yet

can you use rpc pay on both wallets or just the cli ?

It's the daemon, not the wallet. And if you're here thinking you're going to get a monero a day for doing nothing, think again ^_^

oh I know that much lol

The RPC credit system allows you to set up a node and offer public RPC access. Others will mine to your monero address in return for that access.

I was just wondering if you could do it with both or just the cli

It's the *daemon*, not the wallet.

ok i am still waiting for the demon to sync. did restart twice etc. nothing happens

any idea ?

Well, if you want to get the money. If you want to pay the money, it's just the cli AFAIK.

Hmm, type "sync_info", and paste the output to paste.debian.net.

coinling: did you see my comment?

01:31 <selsta> coinling: Go to Settings -> Log, enter "status" and post the output to paste.debian.net

I downloaded both because I liked the idea of using the cli but wasnt quite sure how Id set it up and use it . But I knew the gui should work pretty much like any other gui coin wallet

CLI >>> GUI

They could be having the same issue with sync i had. I downloaded it just the other day but they updated it since then and it wouldnt sync all the way without the updated wallet .

Well while I wait for my gui wallet to finish its syncing now that its finally past 90 precent after the update . Does anyone know where there is a good video or tutorial on all the parts of using the cli wallet and the rpc stuff so I can try it out ?

this article might help monerooutreach.org/stories/RPC-Pay.html

make sure to update to v0.17.1.1

as a first step

yea if your not on the new version that just came out its going to get stuck on you and never finish sync

from what im reading about this rpc pay thing basically i act as the server send out hashes that other people solve then send back and profits are shared im guessing

Kinda. you act as the server, other people mine for you, profits are yours.

The profits have a very large variance though, since they take the form of monero blocks.

So one every... a lot of time if you're a small server.

The more people you serve, the more people mine for you, the faster you can expect one of your clients to find a block for you.

The point is to discourage people from using strangers' nodes though, by making them pay. But for these people who don't have a choice, they still have the option.

And more and more people use third party nodes, even with the privacy cons.

I see

That's actually nice. People who don't care about privacy pay more. Usually it's the opposite. I like.

yea I think im gonna have to learn how to use the cli wallet and rpc it sounds pretty interesting

moneromooo: That makes 0 sense

why would you pay, when you can get it for free?

You woud not.

why would nodes require payment, when they could earn money anyway?

(by transaction fees)

Because it's human nature.

ok i just downloaded today, so i thought i have the newest :D

If anything, the opposite seems more likely - nodes require payment and still do bad privacy things.

if there's some mining pool running free nodes, there's no incentive for anyone else to run paid nodes.

It's not designed to preserve privacy.

go to setting and info to get exact version

remote nodes preserve privacy well, I thought

By remote, do you mean yours, or a third party's ?

Actually, I have a feeling we went through that already...

if its remote you dont know if they are keeping it safe or not

Everyone using pools' nodes for RPC would suck though. Half a dozen centralized nodes.

Do you have to make your own program to work with rpc or is it all build into it ? The page you sent looks like someone is coding stuff to work with it

the download link is still downloading the old wallet

RPC is a programmatic way to interact with a program. That's what the daemon and the wallet use to talk to each other.

You can code other programs that talk to either one as well.

If you want to set up your daemon for public RPC access, you don't have to code anything.

coinling: I heard earlier today that the GUI installer was downloading the 0.17.1.0 version, don't know if that is still the case

you can use the zip

coinling: which link did you use?

its 1711 now

periods go in proper places lol but its no longer a 0

bow2me26: which link?

had only heard of issues with the GUI installer

I have linux getmonero.org/downloads

but yea I downloaded the new one just a few hours ago after the old one wouldnt sync which I downloaded just a day or so ago

so it was just updated

yeah the problem was only with the windows GUI installer

So if it was downloaded anytime before today the gui one might be the wrong version

the cli was updated earlier though

yeah GUI was updated today and CLI yesterday

trying to find out if the GUI windows installer DLs the current version but many people are sleeping

well it updated today and after redownloading it today its syncing for me so far

should be good for a long time :)

now I just have to figure the cli and rpc stuff out so i can make some money for keeping this stuff on my pc instead of using a webwallet

Why are the GUI and CLI releases separate recently, unless they've always been, I just noticed 0.17 has been though.

probably just took longer to finish one

surprised there isnt more talking in this room honestly . People must time out alot

kinda wish I knew of a way to turn that time out stuff off its kind of annoying when im waiting for a reply then it logs me out

goddamnit grep wtf

grep "wtf" *

Why'd you ask us to do this gingeropolous ?

oh! You were making a comment and not a request.

yeah. sorry

my bullshit script is being bullshit

so close. github.com/Gingeropolous/wackamole . selsta , i don't even think you have to pop blocks. If you start another instance with the same p2pstate, you can hook the AHPs

Test

test failed

Matrix is weird

Hard to tell what room is what

So many bridges

I guess the rooms with #roomname are the freenode bridged IRC chats, but why have an explicit option to search for the base freenode rooms too?

#matrix-support

:P

I wasn't really asking I was ranting

and I was only joking

I guess it's just stricter nickserv requirements

So since rpc pay relies on the daemon and not the actual cli wallet does that mean rpc pay can be set up from within the gui wallet like by using commands in the log terminal ?

gingeropolous: how do you find them without popping blocks?

gingeropolous: Is this supposed to find malicious nodes?

Morning all, please can anyone assist with some info? Which is the easiest/ best/ safest merchant/s to use to buy XMR? I'm in RSA.

wolfkeeper[m]: i'd go to the big markets like Kraken

<charolastra "wolfkeeper: i'd go to the big ma"> Thanks, will try that.

@nioc downloads.getmonero.org/gui/win64install

still old version

the zip gets blocked by my antivurus somehow

coinling: Try in incognito / private mode

coinling: add an exception to your anti virus

54825482

selsta, in effect, it pops all the blocks. if you start with no chain, it has the same behavior - AHP show up with the original height, honest peers are 0

TamaraneanGirl, yeah

its not working yet though. there's some bullshit where grep isnt working for some reason

.summon

gingeropolous: I would not test with block height 0

there are legit nodes with e.g. --no-sync that would also be on block height 0

i thought the AHP show up with your last blockheight

without actually being malicious due to not mirroring your height

right, the ahp mirror the height. honest peers would be 0 ... ?

yes, honest peers can be height 0 in some cases

choosing some unique block height is best to test this

yep

Can I be fingerprinted if I use a Monero wallet while connected to a remote node over Tor, when I previously used the same wallet while connected to a remote node without Tor?

What's the safe way to be able to manage my Monero over Tor after I had previously managed it through a remote node via clearnet? Do I need to transfer it to another wallet? How do I safely do that?

I don’t think transferring is necessary.

The main way to fingerprint was "does it start at the same height a previous one stopped", but that's now quantized. So you can be "binned". 1k blocks IIRC.

quantized?

The wallet now doesn't send the exact height to the node, but a range of possible heights

Does monero have a way to keep track of the transaction you make to know if it reached its destination successfully ? I sent coin from 1 wallet to another of mine while the second was syncing and its still not showing the coin

You can check whether the transaction is present on the blockchain by looking it up on an explorer

I see a sent to wallet address a secret key and a transaction id in mymonero but the tracker asked for a transaction hash and a view key . Not sure what I should put in those 2 locations .

Can you define 'tracker'?

blockchair /monero i just looked up monero explorer and it was one that was listed

try entering the transaction hash here: xmrchain.net

is transaction hash the same as transaction id ?

yes

doesnt seem to show much info on the explorers with monero lol

but it is included in a block height?

is the receiving wallet synced now?

if yes, can you go to Settings -> Info and say what it says under "Wallet restore height"?

Q: How should one verify the MyMonero downloads ? github.com/mymonero/mymonero-app-js/releases

PS: I should clarify that I'm asking about the Linux (Electron) AppImage file of MyMonero v1.1.18

monerouser1144: see mymonero/mymonero-app-js #271

they are working on making it easier but confirming hashes should be possible

what is that block height thing all about is it to show you where in the blockchain your wallet address is kept or something ?

Yes, but confirm hashes how? The file github.com/mymonero/mymonero-app-js…s/download/v1.1.18/latest-linux.yml apparently has a sha512 hash, but it seems base64 encoded or something and I can't figure it out ...

@bow2me26 read monero.stackexchange.com/questions/…the-relevance-of-the-restore-height

monerouser1144: shasum -a 512 -b standard-notes-2.3.11-x86_64.AppImage | xxd -r -p | base64

does that help?

replace stamdard-notes with mymonero

It worked, thanks! They should put it in the docs ...

right they are working on it

also gpg signed hashes

Exactly, gpg signed hashes would be best, since almost every other cryptocurrency related software uses that method.

hiya'all so wondering bout tags and labels on the accounts and addresses. are those private or public on the blockchain?

they are on your disk / wallet file only

ohh thats cool

so is there any extra info besides the transaction data that is put onto the chain

you can enter your transaction id here: xmrchain.net

and see everything that is on the chain

so the amount and fee are visible but it goes to a hidden stealth address ? is it visble where it came from?

amount is not visible

fee is

ok cool. bit of a noob here but i see "1 output(s) for total of 1.359915984520 xmr" what is that referring too

did you enter your private view key?

my coin just now showed up

This solo miner that comes with the wallet . Is it worth it to use it or should someone just use a mining pool and forget about using it ?

It is a bit like a lottery.

You will most likely not find a block, but it is possible.

I forgot the name but there is a new Monero wallet that includes XMRig.

The odds look alot higher then a lottery lmao

which makes it very easy to mine both solo and to a pool.

the odds depend on how powerful the hardware you're mining with is

but mining in a pool is more like getting a wage

again, it depends on the hardware you're using whether you get less than minimum wage or enough to buy more hardware and play a real life cookie clicker with monero mining devices

so a pool is going to pay out but probably a little amount but if you solo mine you either make a ton or nothing that about right?

yeah, pretty much

solo mine is just earning nothing and hoping that someday you'll win the blockchain monopoly

er, lottery not monopoly

Don't want to spam too much... But, if you want to check out the new Monero Lottery you can check it out at xmr.lottero.win Tickets cost 0.1XMR and on games that aren't won the bets and jackpot all roll over to the next game. The rollovers happen until a game is won.

don't forget to consider how much your electricity costs

if your electricity is expensive, it's like doing an actual lottery where you're likely to add up to a loss before you ever win

by that i mean you're more likely to have spent more on electricity than you earned by winning, if you win

that reminds me how hard is that rpc pay stuff on your electric bill is it as bad as mining ?

selsta: i didnt enter any of my transactions. im interested too see what is publicly visible on the chain. so when i click on some of those transactions i see the fee amount and i also see some output totals in xmr. curious what that output amount is

donkeydonkey: did you click on a coinbase transaction? these have public amounts

how is rpc pay different then running a mining pool ?

siesta: ok cool i dont see it say coinbase but now i see that only a few have visible outputs. thanks much

hrm, my script is getting totally different peers than selsta 's approach

maybe something is wrong with the script?

you can connect to the peer as an exclusive node in no-sync and if the peer mirrors your height the ip was correctly found

I'm trying to post in #monero-markets (about today's price action) but I can't. Is that channel still used?

who could've known that coinbase can track monero transactions that you make with coinbase

monerouser1144: you might have to register on freenode

Hello everyone, one question. Who knows who's hosting the monerotipbot? monerotipbot

monerouser1144, i think u have to register with freenode

Sorry got disconnected.

Does anyone know who is hosting the monerotipbot? Thanks :)

lh1008: on reddit?

On telegram

I'll also ask in the monero-community channel. Thanks everyone. You could leave me a message if anyone knows. Will disconnect myself.

sethsimmons: by the way if you want to retest synching from scratch

M5M400 managed to sync up in 70 minutes

with setting out_peers to 256 and increasing limit_down

copenhagen_bram[: You can't do monero transactions on coinbase though

selsta: 72 minutes.

I plan to use monero-wallet-cli on an off-line (air-gapped) TAILS OS system, to create a cold wallet, seed and sub-addresses. Then I plan create a hot "view-only wallet" on an online system. Finally I plan to send XMR to a subaddress of the cold wallet. Does this plan seem correct to you and should I be doing more?

PS: by "correct" I meant to say adequate. Or should I be doing it differently?

don't think Tails is necessary but sounds ok otherwise

monerouser1144: that sounds nice :) - how do you plan to transfer data between the view only wallet and the airgapped system?

I plan to transfer data (the 8... subaddress to send funds and the pvt view key) out via a USB stick. Alternatively, I might add a very restrictive iptables ruleset, filtering all outgoing traffic except to the ssh port of the IP of online system, and ssh to it.

I mean I could use some other Linux LiveUSB (e.g. Debian or even Kali), but TAILS seems to be designed for handling sensitive info.

To be honest, I did some searching online (Reddit, Google) and found quite a few incidents of thefts from MyMonero web-wallet back in 2018. Not much recently, which is encouraging.

Webwallets often have reports of stolen funds

afaik there were no reports since mymonero switched to desktop / mobile apps

search engine results for "mymonero" often had phishing websites as first result due to ads

According to the 2yr old Reddit discussion, the response of MyMonero folks was to switch CDN from Cloudflare. Don't know if this played a role. Considering the attributes of XMR as digital cash, I would imagine some spy agencies and embargoed nations like NK might want to get some ;-)

<copenhagen_bram[ "who could've known that coinbase"> The "coinbase transaction" that he's referring to has nothing to do with the Coinbase exchange/company. It's the name for the transactions that send the mining reward of that block to the miner who found it (and their amount is public).

Hey, I really didn't want to end up asking someone for help but I've tried downloading the blockchain, altering my wallet to 'old' and alternating nodes/checking height yet my balance is completely out of whack and I've had an uncomfirmed transaction for 9 days....

Avernus: what version of the wallet and daemon are you using?

Avernus: download v0.17.1.1, then click on "rescan" on Settings -> Wallet screen

v0.17.1.0

assuming you use GUI

Ah, has it been updated recently? I was hoping that may be the case

okay so update, wait for your daemon to sync up and then click on "Rescan" inside Settings -> Wallet

should resolve your issue

Thank you, I'm waiting on it now. Funny I came in here after an update was released...

Been trying to resolve it for days

Jesus christ. Thank you selesta, although I should have noticed an update. Of all the times to come and leech help it was so easy in the end. My apologies.

selsta*

good to hear

Was this a widespread issue recently? I tried everything lol

yea some nodes got stuck