hi

the cake wallet telegram group was banned a few minutes ago

same with my account

we have no idea why

hmm annoying

The payment is safe, unless there is a rare flaw in the generation of your keys multifractal_:

selsta: yes. where it says "address"?

yes

it's on a different computer i don't know how i could paste that long string to you

is it a .onion remote node?

yeah

hmm, maybe this node is down

try a different one

there should be a list here: xmrguide42y34onq.onion

Why would it report as synchronized though

changing node as first step is still good to find the root cause of the issue

selsta: ok i selected one of the addresses from the list on that site, and hit connect. it says same as before, daemon is synchronized, synchronizing wallet progress bar is unfilled.

maybe i'm on an old version or something

multifractal_: which version are you using?

you have to use v0.17.1.1

you can check on Settings -> Info

yeah it's out of date

KnifeOfPi_: does Telegram have support?

Vik already contacted them

So now I'm on version 0.17.1.1, and both progress bars are filled (wallet is synchronized, daemon is synchronized). But I still haven't got the payment I was expecting from elude. Maybe I just need to be more patient but it's been a few hours. It's always been quicker than that for me before.

Do you have a transaction id / hash?

selsta: yeah

can you enter it on xmrchain.net ? is it found thre?

there

selsta: it found no result. but maybe i'm not entering the correct information. looks like what i have is the transation id of the btc deposit i made to elude.

it should look like this: 862cb15734ea10daebcb374e595a0d6798108266189b0d6730626d712ad36b19

not sure what elude is, but they should provide a transaction id usually

the post is saying it got removed...?

needmoney90: ^

approved, I thought kop was on the cake filter

knifeofpi_ can you or vik PM me on telegram?

my telegram account is banned, i'll use my alt

what's your telegram username?

needmoney90

KnifeOfPi_: are you logged in twice on irc?

KnifeOfPi also seems to exist

pretty sure that's from my phone? not sure

hmm, okay, just asking with people impersonating cake wallet team members :P but your reddit account looks legit

hi

yes that is me

lmao

i just have my irccloud poorly configured

you can use the same login details on desktop / mobile

oh, i just mean i had two sessions open

oh it looks like my btc payment to elude (btc>xmr converter) had 0 confirmations and never went through. not sure what that's about i just used the default options when making that payment.

bitcoin mempool is full

lots of transactions I guess

i'm just relieved i didn't lose a bunch of money. i'll try again later when i'm less sleep deprived.

thank you for your help

Is elude trustworthy?

selsta: is the proper way to set --limit-rate-up/down to unlimited to set them to -1?

I never noticed those were set to a fairly low bandwidth number until today.

Testing a pruned sync with 256 out_peers and both limit-rate set to -1

limit_down -1 does not work here

ah, do I have to just set an arbitrarily high number?

just set e.g. 100000 or so

ok great

sethsimmons: wait, when doing pruned sync adding --prune-synced-blocks might help

--sync-pruned-blocks

I'll wait to test pruning

restarted this without for a better comparison to my other non-pruned syncs

But ill save that detail for later :)\

Although it’s probably not a great test as I’m also syncing Bitcoin Core at the same time

Monero is <3

My entire monerod system just rebooted

Spooky

Now I'm more confused as to how it rebooted, I didn't have the wallet open to summon it. It rebooted by itself, and I didn't know Qubes could do that.

All it did was complain about slow blocks and missing peers in the log, but that was 2 hours ago unless the clock is wrong.

slow block warning is normal

so that is not related

That's why I said it was 2 hours ago

This happened every hour it says

selsta: that tweet you posted "This is not available for you" .. oh well.

Inge-: reload. happens alot with shitstagram lately

charolastra: you were right.

yeah, very stupid error message

<korteshok> Hi, who knows how to set up i2p on mac os?

i2p-zero?

<korteshok> ++

<korteshok> or is there a working node?

What?

The seed nodes are listed in the second link

<korteshok> node tor with moneroworld.com does not work (

You asked about I2P? I2P uses a different protocol and doesn't use Tor links.

<korteshok> I understand. ip2 could not be configured, so I decided through the tor node, but the wallet does not connect through it (

korteshok: what error is displayed?

<monerouser1144 "Btw BTC just made multi-month ne"> ids habbeding

btc rise, monero rise too

<KnifeOfPi_ "the cake wallet telegram group w"> why don't you guys open a matrix chat? come over at halogen.city

Telegram has pretty shady policies with groups

marmulak: for example?

they just block people from joining them randomly, like in the past because I had registered an Iranian phone number I just couldn't join group links at all

With Iran, there are some dicey issues.

they probably have some control algorithm to compartmentalize their user base

Telegram doesn't let Iranian users from chatting in some of the groups. I guess this was due to gobbermint of Iran threatening to ban the Telegram from Iran completely.

I'm not sure Telegram cares if it gets banned there or not. They made a big deal about fighting Russian blocking attempts but when Iran blocked Telegram a while back they did nothing. I think for them it's more of a QoS issue, just blocking a country helps keep the groups clean from spam and people who don't speak English

but one can only guess

since it's not transparent

yeah that's something i don't like about tg

Hello everyone, it seems the telegram monerotipbot is already working. I will make an external transaction and will update everyone. Thank you.

.seen luigi1111w

ded

<lh1008[m] "Hello everyone, it seems the tel"> can you write the telegram username of that bot? I want to confirm that I am sending xmr to a legit bot.

<dixie__flatline[ "can you write the telegram usern"> @MoneroTipBot try with a smal amount first

small**

tiny

i want to run an open node. What string can i put in my conf to disable mining permanently? I dont want anyone interacting with the node to be able to change settings or enable mining

--restricted-rpc

ok. I have that, i wasnt sure if there was more i needed. thanks

selsta: 256 out_peers and --limit-rate-up 1000000000 --limit-rate-down 1000000000:

Sync time: 148.826 min, idle time 1.48358%, 83654.2 + 32799 MB downloaded, 6.04369% old spans, 0.214233% bad spans

HW: 3700X/16GB/1TB NVMe SSD

2.5h?

is that better than last time?

8 out_peers: Sync time: 590.647 min, idle time 71.2448%, 70988.6 + 318.8 MB downloaded, 5.07672% old spans, 0.00153747% bad spans

50 out_peers: 3h57m

So yes, out_peers has a dramatic impact on IBD

We may want to look at either just bumping the default out_peers during IBD, or having some programmatic way of increasing it until the bottleneck lies somewhere else on each system

I guess that all depends on your total bandwidth available

your ISP gives you more than any of your peers has, so you're kinda lucky in that regard

True, I do have 1gbps up/down, but I'm not hitting anywhere near that during the IBD

Would love someone with a worse ISP connection to test 8/50/256 out_peers and see what they get

if you have 1 gbps down, wouldn't it ultimately be faster to just download the lmdb file outright?

I've tested with a single peer on my LAN. should be possible to setup arbitrarily many peers on LAN and use tc or something to control their speed

<artefact "if you have 1 gbps down, wouldn'"> Probably, but thats neither a good test of IBD, nor is it full verification, which I always want to do

I would never trust someone elses bootstrap TBH

full verification? i thought you only had to check the top of a tree hash to ensure integrity of the whole tree? (like a git HEAD)

how do you know what the top should be?

if you're downloading an entire DB and only check the hash of the last block, you have no idea what's in the rest of the DB

right, the db itself isn't a tree, my bad

sethsimmons: it would be nice to try increasing number of peers until either CPU is maxed or banwidth is maxed

yeah will have to keep raising it and testing

Maybe I'll just try 4096 and see where I get bottlenecked lol!

but getting reliable stats for that will be a pain, highly non-portable

also a bit of luck involved, since some peers will be faster than others.

if you had an algorithm that doubled out_peers every N seconds while polling stats, then backing down again to zero in on an optimal value

when you reduced out_peers again you'd be eliminating connections of varying speed. so, not easy to optimize

That’s seems to be the best past forward, but not simple

sethsimmons: m5m400 had pretty similar hardware, also gigabit

but at least your sync was faster this time

There's one other thing you might want to do, is try to use the fastest peers to request the spans you need next.

Hi guys

I'm trying to invoke Monero RPC API using C++ but I get a parse error. Here is the JSON-RPC string

std::string params = "{\"jsonrpc\":\"2.0\",\"id\":\"0\",\"method\":\"import_multisig_info\",\"params\":{\"info\":[\""+ms_info+"\"]}}";

{"code":-1,"message":"Error calling import_multisig"}

looking in the source code it seems such error comes from WALLET_RPC_ERROR_CODE_UNKNOWN_ERROR case

selsta: sethsimmons: it's worth mentioning that I maintain ~ 10 other nodes in the same physical DC. didn't check the peer list if they were used in syncing, but might well have been the case. usually north of block 2M when syncing I see intermittent slowdowns, but that night data just kept pouring in...

Did you bump the logs ?

M5M400: v0.17.1.1 has super recent checkpoints so probably only a couple days were fully verified

yes it says "Wrong number of multisig sources"

Good to see monero bouncing back today :)

Is someone here who has a stagenet node running?

yes

I'm still looking for a P2P onion address

P2P !RPC

stagenet blockchain is ~2gb

did you try this one?

xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion:38081

:-) Thanks I've been looking for it for a week

:-( these are all RPC addresses for the wallet. I'm looking for P2P for --add-peer (seednode)

sorry misread your last comment

I have one running on mainnet

(Tor), but not stagenet :/

My mainnet also runs as .onion. wanted to test beforehand via stagenet

If binaryFate is online I have to ask him. xmr.to has a stagnet Tor node.

boldsuck, community.xmr.to/nodes.html

These are all RPC addresses for the wallet. !P2P

stagenet tor: xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion

Did you try all these with 38080 ?

38081 (default)

scroll to the bottom of the page

guess it would be 38080 hey

Tried 38083. I'll take 38081

and 38080

I have 9 incoming Tor peers but only 1 outgoing hmm

Might be 65536

guess many run without anonymous-inbound

Interesting first stat -- averaging ~380 peers with out_peers set to 4096

So I'm guessing thats near the max public nodes I can reach on the network

how long did you wait?

I didn't block the AHPs, so its possible I'm getting a good chunk of useless peers

sync has been going about 2h I think, but will have a firm time in a minute,a lmost done syncing

if you want to test with blocking: gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt :P

is this windows or linux?

heh

Windows 10

v0.17.1.1

ok I had a daemon compiled with --block-list functionality but only on linux

so guess we can’t test that until we have a new release

so a bit slower

I also was doing other things on the computer, including a video call

So its not very representative, but it wasn't significantly faster at last

*at least

Crap no reload. I was too fast, paste.debian.net/1168302

hyc: selsta Inge- Interesting IBD numbers above

boldsuck, might help to see your config file

sethsimmons: not sure where in the scrollback. maybe you can summarize on gist.github

your long msgs aren't relayed to IRC

Oh, that’s odd

Selsta saw them...

matrix sends them in a weird way

when you post long messages

so, 2h40m with 300 peers

would still prefer to see a summary on gist, something a little less ephemeral than this

and also the numbers for the other out_peer attempts

total disk activity only 10.9% is reassuring

so on your machine none of the resources were anywhere near maxed out

could disk seek delay cause the disk activity being low if only a small amount of data is required?

as compared to sequential read

"disk activity" should include all time the device is busy, including busy seeking

I suspect that number only looks so good because that SSD is fast...

I assume when importing the raw file we should get the minimum sync time if network would be in perfect conditions?

Or is import code different?

Q: If I already have a node running fine (sync'ed etc) on a VPS, and periodically rsync backup its /home/monero (user running monerod) to my local PC, could I just use the files in .bitmonero dir or should I let monerod sync from scratch ?

The DB is compatible across any platform of the same endianness.

but rsync isn't guaranteed to make a clean copy of the DB unless monerod is stopped

selsta: importing the raw file can actually be slower than network sync, because it requires its own amount of disk I/O and RAM for fs cache

But in this case I wouldn't "import" it. I'd just rsync the entire ~/.bitmonero dir from VP to my local PC and start monerod locally. Or did I miss something?

VP=VPS

the database is not in a clean state unless you exit the daemon if I understand hyc correctly

so if you start it on the other machine there might be issues

yes

mdb_copy + rsync should work if monerod keeps running at backup time.

you can safely make a copy of the live DB using mdb_copy, but not with rsync

(but not using only rsync)

Port 65536 is invalid. All other don't work, eigther.

user@crypto:~$ /home/user/monero/monerod print_pl|grep '.onion'

white 60107cbd63a14167 xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion:38081:0 - - 0 never

white b20079c9eac6cfb0 xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion:38088:0 - - 0 never

white b05f768cfae5738e xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion:65535:0 - - 0 never

boldsuck: port numbers are only 1-65535.

who said 65536?

<Mochi101> Might be 65536 ;-)

oh well, they were wrong

've taken port 65535

hehehe... hyc :P

last hope is binaryFate

hyc, you know that was on purpose right?

In similar cases (RDBMS), I first do an initial rsync of the live db (assuming it will be in inconsistent state) and then I stop the DB and rsync again, which typically finishes very fast. Would this approach work for rsyncing ~/.bitmonero ?

<hyc "would still prefer to see a summ"> Yeah, I’m compiling results across two machines and will share in a post/gist after

Just sharing here in short form as I discover things 🙂

monerouser1144: sure, as long as you do a pass where the DB is stopped you're fine

How come I see everyone recommended using kraken to exchange btc to xmr?

Why not just use bisq?

bisq client crashes my computer

<aaaaaaaaaaaa "How come I see everyone recommen"> Because as far as kyc exchanges go, they are not too bad (they don't require excessive amounts of personal info for fiat operations), they have a good reputation, good security practices, good support, and very low deposit and withdrawal fees for Monero

Every now and then I read some horror story about some user that gets their exchange account hacked and I think to myself "ew, who thought _that_ was secure?"

Or maybe I've just been very lucky so far, who knows

binance is alright

I've only used bisq

With no issues

The worst part is probably just the fee you pay

And the minimum amount you can exchange is usually around 0.03 btc

But for higher amounts like above .1 btc you pay 2% so its not terrible

Idk why you would want to use a kyc exchange for btc to xmr

Hello everyone, confirming the telegram bot is working well. Thank you hoster.

Seems to defeat the purpose when anyone can just say you've bought x amount of xmr

But they have no idea what you do with it after you withdraw

That's where the privacy kicks in

I feel its still giving them something that is not needed

I agree

But as far as evil goes, they are the 'least evil'

And they provide a good service in exchange for it

I see the point but why even use "evil" when there is another option that avoids that

imo unlink and morphtoken are to the best to switch between xmr/btc

Is morphtoken trusted?

Oh right, we're in the context of btc-xmr

I was thinking more fiat-xmr

I use morphtoken occasionally but I worry they are just storing my public address

But the fees on kraken are quite low either way

Use subaddresses

Which is more of an issue with my opsec as I reuse a public address

Yeah

And you have good liquidity and less 'fee overhead'

Morphtoken also is not working with TOR for me

I have to set the webpage as trusted to get it to work

aaaaaaaaaaaa: theres a python script to use morphtoken w/o js

Oh do you have the link

That would be useful

you can find it on dread's d/monero

Thank you

You can use this site to use morphtoken over tor without actually going to their website, very simple and works well.

nice mitm

Lol

ill be sure to involuntarily donate my xmr to it

Lol

what's mitm?

Man in the middle viperperidot[m]

That's what I thought

251 ms)

[2020-10-19 01:27:44.369] miner speed 10s/60s/15m 1405.0 1418.4 1409.4 H/s max 1539.2 H/s

[2020-10-19 01:27:47.844] cpu accepted (1861/0) diff 50000 (527 ms)

[2020-10-19 01:28:25.124] cpu accepted (1862/0) diff 50000 (1785 ms)

[2020-10-19 01:28:32.877] cpu accepted (1863/0) diff 50000 (1426 ms)

[2020-10-19 01:28:44.422] miner speed 10s/60s/15m 1408.1 1417.1 1410.4 H/s max 1539.2 H/s

[2020-10-19 01:29:37.470] net new job from pool.supportxmr.com:3333 diff 50000 algo rx/0 height 2211148

Is there a problem with that site?

[2020-10-19 01:29:44.485] miner speed 10s/60s/15m 1412.8 1413.9 1411.1 H/s max 1539.2 H/s

[2020-10-19 01:29:56.431] cpu accepted (1864/0) diff 50000 (1795 ms)

[2020-10-19 01:30:08.582] cpu accepted (1865/0) diff 50000 (2732 ms)

viperperidot[m], maybe not... but in general Monero users are more paranoid than normal people.

Has a lot to do with being educated about how things really work and what is possible to be done.

Well the only info that site could get from you is your onion address and address you are sending to which would be the same amount of information given on bisq

that site is literally in the middle and change data on the fly. Substitute their own receiving address

*can change

^^^

yes

thats the problem

It's actually a double mitm

So could morphtoken though right?

:-P

of course

And if morphtoken uses cloudflare, a triple.

men in the middle

this is all chain of trust and adding one more element to it only makes it worse

Yes I agree if you want custody 100% then bisq is the way to go

morphtoken just makes it a bit quicker and easier

man sandwich

But once we get atomic swaps that will be the best method :D

atomic swaps will still need some kind of exchange

I read that chain analysis can tell that you used Bisq (due to the way transactions are done).

Bisq will be adding it once it comes out

Yeah bisq transactions are fairly obvious on the blockchain but they still don't know who the parties are

And I think with taproot bisq transactions will be less obvious from my understanding

I'm too lazy to join #monero-markets to say that Monero price is going up again

TamaraneanGirl: that's ok, there'll be a few others to do that

i quoted you in #monero-markets

I didn't really join the community to talk about price as a trader, but how currency is valued is an important conversation.

too philosophical for me. number go up?

@selsta (I think it was selsta) could you re-send the URL to list of IPs of bad monero nodes?

does that get updated every so often?

is xmr.pm your domain?

Thank you. Since they are quite a few, I'll just create an ipset from it (for Linux iptables firewall).

lza_menace: dsc_ domain

ah, ok

was going to say

I do update it if I find new ones

Will it be possible for someone to tell if a Bitcoin was swapped to/from Monero? Is there a possibility that all swapped Bitcoins will eventually get tainted, blocked at exchanges or devalued?

what do you mean by swapped to/from xmr?

you aren't destroying btc/xmr to create xmr/btc

AIUI, the bitcoin txes can be known to be a swap, but the monero txes don't. So you don't know what it was swapped with.

Unless only monero supports those, I guess.

artefact: i mean once the new atomic swap protocol gets implemented.

iirc it won't be a thing with monero? because swap txes could be discriminated against

but i know very little about this, except from what i read here

me too, that's why I'm asking.. totally don't understand how the atomic swap works yet. was just wondering if there was a danger of all swapped bitcoin to get tainted somehow..

That'd be going really, *really* far. So it might happen.

And that's why immortality sucks. You want out of the panopticon at some point.

I am using *Incognito wallet*. It has this feature that lets you make Private address it just gives limited address time. But don't tech behind it so I don't know how much secure it is.

Or is this make Mondeo more secure

@selsta applying your bad node list to an iptables rules (with ipset) immediately cleared my "sync_info" list. Now all 12 connected nodes are at the latest block height. :-)

these nodes also appear on the latest block height if you are on the latest block height :P

* Or is this make Monero more secure

so that’s not a way to find them

The last few days I keep noticing this message in the logs "here were 21 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck." I suppose it's due to the drop from ~2.4 Ghashes/s to ~1.7 ?

Yes.

I cannot determine if my wallet is slow, or if the Matrix browser tab is slowing the whole system, or both.