00:44:24 run it in screen 00:46:15 +1 00:47:11 Write your own init. 00:54:15 i was under the impression the monero.service file was included because it was the recommended way to do it. But i'll look into writing my own init 00:54:21 thank you 00:57:16 :D 00:57:49 It's supposed to work. There's also a rewrite on github, not merged yet. Might have more luck with that. 00:59:20 cool, thanks for the insight 01:21:12 yay, my script works now 01:21:25 turns out u can use no chain, so your node reports 1, so AHP also report 1 01:22:00 has the benefit of running alongside monerod , so you don't have to stop your daemon and pop blocks to find AHP 01:30:37 gingeropolous: <3 01:32:58 gingeropolous: like I said, don't think it is a good idea to do this with 0 or 1 01:33:29 1 is better already but you want some unique number to avoid false positives 01:33:44 afaik when peers connect they initially also display 1 01:33:54 soo you will get a lot of false positives 01:34:52 Does it have to be a valid block height? 01:38:09 okay, they initially display 0 not 1 01:38:13 still seems risky to me 01:39:25 gingeropolous: this is my latest list if you want to compare https://paste.debian.net/hidden/556c14fb/ 01:39:39 TamaraneanGirl: depends on how these nodes are programmed 01:40:17 You can try with a chain at height 3 or so. monerod sync chunks of 100 (or 200) blocks, so 3 will pretty much never be a real mainnet height. 01:40:47 But you might want to try, say, 15, then reconnect and claim 13. See if it went down too. 01:41:43 Following up earlier discussion of a few hours ago, I would just like to report that I managed to connect to my monerod running remotely over ssh tunnel. So that on the monerod server (VPS) the only port that is open to the Internet is SSH (actually my setup is much more complicated, but anyway) 01:44:38 every single node in my list is OVH hosted 01:45:39 The ssh command looks like this: "ssh -Ngf -L 18081:127.0.0.1:18081 -p xyz myuser@mypublicip" (where xyz is 22 by default, but you may have changed it) 01:47:31 In my case the VPS is actually a container on a server with multiple IPs, so I NAT one of its public IPs to it the container running monerod and bitcoind etc. 01:55:04 The idea was to handle your wallet on a system with minimal Linux installation (e.g. TAILS or some custom LiveUSB) where you only have to copy the monero-wallet-cli binary and open outgoing traffic to only one ip:port, that of your own VPS running sshd/monerod. 02:43:51 yeah i remember the 0 thing, must've read over the 1 for some reason selsta. 02:56:28 Whats the best way to have a monero wallet on tails 02:56:31 Monero gui or cli? 03:27:16 aaaaaaaaaaaa whatever you feel more comfortable using I guess 03:27:33 cli has more options, gui is arguably easier 03:28:11 when you download the gui I think you also get the cli too, so 04:01:52 #monero-support is now active. A bot will take the newest posts to /r/monerosupport and post them there. 04:12:29 Why make a chatbot for the Reddit posts? 04:16:37 decentralization 04:16:52 ;) 04:28:48 We've had a huge surge in users needing support, and I'm trying to find ways to streamline the process 04:37:50 https://i.imgur.com/wjeogJo.png 04:37:55 this is my modqueue today 04:38:42 You should be paid for that service needmoney90. 04:38:52 does monerod support use over proxy? 04:39:14 Paying mods is such a slippery subject 04:39:25 AutoModerator doesn't seem to sleep, I wonder who he is. 04:39:31 How does 7k per month sound needmoney90 ? 04:39:31 I would help you needmoney90 but reddit decided to nuke my account for unknown reasons 04:39:50 shit, if I got 7k/month I would be soooo happy to deal with this 04:40:05 7k piconeros 04:40:43 But convincing the community to pay for moderation would be a tough sell, and I doubt the mods themselves could introduce any sort of proposal that wouldn't be publicly panned 04:41:07 I should stop procrastinating and learn a programming language 04:41:12 the whole "but I would do it for free" thing, but with power thrown in the mix 04:41:20 Mochi101 can pay you out of his pockets 04:41:30 learn haskell 04:41:47 Isn't that obscure? 04:41:51 It's a veiled joke vp11 04:42:07 Mochi101 ;) 04:42:07 I was thinking C, C++, and Python as a script language 04:42:10 I think needmoney90 gets it though. 04:42:11 haskell probably isn't obscure but relative to C++ you could say 04:42:31 Rust may be the hot new thing though 04:42:35 if you are interested in normie programming then definitely C/C++/Java/Python gotta catch 'em all 04:42:37 * needmoney90 doesnt want shades or whatever /r/moneros currency would be 04:42:40 Rust is very hot right now 04:42:45 the new C++ 04:43:32 Hot rust. 04:43:54 C is holy though 04:44:04 Rust has many attractive features. I've seen it put to use to good effect where people otherwise would have used C++. 04:44:05 RIP Terry 04:44:13 holyc is its own language 04:44:59 Terry (pbuh) is missed by many. 04:45:07 Then there's GUI frameworks 04:45:30 C/C++ is excellent in the hands of experienced and meticulous programmers. Things can also go South real fast if you aren't sure of what you're doing 04:45:58 but all programming requires those general skills 04:46:10 I want to make my first project an input tarpit 04:46:52 I still havent run Temple 04:46:58 I need to some day 04:48:07 Instead of opening up a text editor to write messages, you can just call the input tarpit from a keyboard shortcut, helpful for not getting keystrokes tracked 04:48:45 needmoney90: I tried it the first time smoe months ago when I figured out virtualization lol 04:48:51 I learned AlgolW 04:48:54 templeos? 04:49:17 yes, its written in HolyC by Terry 04:49:18 it's fun but it's basically a DOS game, without DOS 04:49:36 did you see the documentary about it and him? whoa. 04:49:53 I've seen stuff, I feel sorry for the guy 04:49:58 id never heard about the whole thing so i was extra shocked. 04:49:58 society failed him 04:51:13 anyways, the doc is on youtube. been meaning to watch the other docs that person did. just havent got around to it yet. 04:51:27 but yeah does monerod support something like socks5 or should I just run it remotely 04:51:58 kinghat: I think I saw it but if you find the link you can send it to me 04:52:02 I like history 04:52:52 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg 04:53:30 LTT did a thing on the OS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A 04:53:42 has the monero gui wallet ever shown mining temporarily suspended to anyone here ? if so can you tell me why it does that 04:54:37 thanks 04:57:23 Anthony is great 08:28:09 I can't seem to find information about --tx-proxy in term of what its options are 08:30:11 marmulak: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md#outbound-connections 08:31:28 thanks 08:33:01 it appears that monero is being targeted here; the daemon seems not to sync anymore, and I see they are attempting a mitm attack on getmonero.org 08:33:40 marmulak: what version daemon are you using? 08:34:04 v0.17.0.0-819f9e1d9 (should be latest master) 08:34:28 you need to update, there was a bug where anyone offline during the fork can't sync past the fork height 08:35:03 nodes online at the time allowed old style transactions to be in a block after they were disallowed 08:36:12 I tried --tx-proxy very simple (like 127.0.0.1:8080) but it quits saying main threw an exception 08:36:22 oh I'll see if I can rebuild it then 08:37:36 marmulak: do you want to use tx-proxy with tor or i2p? 08:37:57 marmulak: rebuild latest v0.17.1.1 or release-v0.17 branch 08:38:09 also there is no mitm on getmonero 08:38:44 you might have to update your OS if there are certificate issues 08:54:15 selsta: neither technically, just a socks5 proxy (ie ssh). tor uses socks5 too I think 08:54:41 tx-proxy is for either tor or i2p 08:54:59 as for mitm, the "man" in this case is between me and getmonero.org, not between you and it :p 08:55:00 e.g. if you run tor with 9050 socks proxy you have to add 08:55:24 --tx-proxy tor,127.0.0.1:9050 08:55:26 I rebuilt monero but there were no updates in git master, it's still v0.17.0.0 08:55:44 yea, you have to build latest release branch 08:55:51 oh I see 08:55:57 master is a bit behind 08:56:11 which usually is not the case 08:56:13 why is it called master -_- 08:56:26 lol 08:56:37 ok I can change brenches 08:58:18 oh fun, if I tell it my socks5 is "tor" it works :D 08:58:28 now it's syncing even without the update 08:58:57 make sure to still use latest release branch :D 08:59:07 I will update it now 09:00:03 you will also have to add tor peers as we don’t have seed nodes yet 09:00:05 --add-peer xwvz3ekocr3dkyxfkmgm2hvbpzx2ysqmaxgter7znnqrhoicygkfswid.onion:18083 --add-peer zbjkbsxc5munw3qusl7j2hpcmikhqocdf4pqhnhtpzw5nt5jrmofptid.onion:18083 09:00:20 yes but I'm not actually using tor ;) 09:00:27 although I can experiment with that later 09:00:51 ah I thought you wanted to try tor :P 09:02:23 it might be worth trying although it would look more suspicious on my end 09:38:08 hmm now it's syncing but I don't know if it's because I updated the binaries or if it's because I connected once over proxy and it discovered new peers or something 09:38:16 because it had started syncing over proxy before I updated 09:39:03 WARNING: no two valid DNS TXT records were received 09:39:09 would this be related to syncing issues 09:39:29 Are there any resources I can use if I want to point out issues with Bitcoin privacy? Say if I want to show that I can see that someone sent money to some business? 09:46:00 marmulak: would not be related 09:46:21 might be related to incorrectly setting up proxy 09:46:22 thanks 09:46:43 no it happens without proxy, probably due to internet censorship 09:47:01 you can enter sync_info to get more information 09:47:08 what are DNS TXT records for? 09:48:03 updates, afaik also seed nodes but don’t think this is used correctly 09:48:06 currently 09:48:45 cool 09:49:11 I should check to see if I'm connected to any seed nodes 09:53:43 ok that's definitely a no, I bet all the seed nodes are blocked 09:55:38 what does status say? 09:55:46 how many in / out peers? 09:56:17 I'm connected to peer just no seed nodes. Firewall prevents incoming connections but outgoing is currently 9 09:56:26 no problem 09:57:47 ok 9 out peers is enough 09:58:13 which block height are you on? does it move? 09:58:16 more than enough 09:58:23 oh ya it's syncing 09:58:32 I'm at 99% 09:58:55 last time I synced was less than a week ago which is why I was surprised it stopped working one day 09:59:24 but I think it just wasn't able to connect to peers, maybe it needed to contact a seed node first to find more and couldn't connect 10:00:05 I don't know it's weird, because it would say downloading blocks and even at what speed but then no block synced, until I enabled --tx-proxy then suddenly it starts syncing 10:00:37 makes you wonder 10:01:33  --tx-proxy is not syncing related 10:01:37 it is only used for tx propagation 10:01:45 interesting 10:01:50 v0.17.1.0 had a sync bug 10:01:52 maybe that’s why 10:02:08 well it 17.0.0 10:02:10 hadn't updated yet 10:02:22 it could just be random bad internet 10:02:43 that spontaneously resolved on its own 10:03:04 just annoyed I let it run all night and it synced nothing lol 10:04:13 while I have you, --block-sync-size doesn't affect disk operations, right? It's just network level 10:05:20 usually not necessary to change this 10:05:52 I usually lower it if syncing is very slow (mainly because of my slow hard drive) just so I can watch it happen 10:06:43 don't know if that affects anything like performance or file system operations 10:07:03 I assume it's the same result 10:08:05 although it's crossed my mind that handling blocks in batches might help reduce file system overhead somehow, but then that doesn't make sense to me when I think about it 10:08:24 db probably doesn't care about that 10:11:37 my hard drive... my biggest store of data, my biggest enemy 11:19:09 https://donate.torproject.org/cryptocurrency -- anyone else noticed the XMR address is gone? been like this for a couple of days. wondering if anyone knows what happened? 11:20:20 Monero is on the list but empty? 11:20:38 maybe they put it on maintenance during the fork 11:20:58 I think one of the foundation employees commented that they were performing wallet maintenance 11:21:40 yeah i thought it might be fork related, the timing is suggestive 11:21:49 but still.. weird. it's not like the addr changes 12:12:47 maby it's a canary 13:23:08 I've seen a number of people asking TOR about it on twitter since maybe 1-2 weeks, but they never answer 13:38:27 Anybody knows anything about this issue? https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jep773/getmoneroorg_updated_updates_to_user_guides/g9fmxuz/ 14:18:23 I sent them an email a while ago and got the following back: "Hello! We had to take the Monero wallet offline for a bit while we fix an issue with it, which is why it's currently blank. It should be back soon. Thanks for supporting Tor." .. maybe someone could give them some support in fixing the issue... :/ 14:19:28 That was like 4 weeks ago 14:19:40 So shouldn't be fork related 15:36:13 need windows tech help with the wallet cli 15:36:19 I'm getting an error 15:36:21 Error: Failed to initialize ring database: privacy enhancing features will be inactive 15:36:50 i run .\monero-wallet-cli.exe --data-dir f:/mypath 15:38:32 on github there is an issue but it was resolved by running as admin, but if i do that it wont load from my data directory path (f:/mypath) 15:40:49 Does it not run properly? 15:41:01 Afaik it is simply an informational message and doesn't inhibit one from using monero-wallet-cli 15:41:21 Hello everyone, me again. 15:41:24 it runs properly yes, sends and receives 15:41:42 Does anyone know who hosts the telegram monerotipbot? 15:45:22 linuxn00b: Then you can ignore the error 15:50:25 ok 18:43:47 hi y'all. i got the background mining setup on my wallet-gui and changed the target cpu and its working great. i am wondering if there is a way to specify the sub-address to send the block rewards to when they start pouring in? thanks 18:45:41 It has to be the main address. 18:46:44 ok cool. thanks. 18:55:23 moneromooo: tried to ping you in #monero-community:matrix.org but you were not to be found. have you seen: https://veloren.net/ before? 18:55:39 The name does not ring a bell. 18:56:16 voxel rpg game 18:56:17 It looks very nice. 18:56:33 https://youtu.be/lv8OFSWZkGs 18:56:40 ^ not related 19:14:30 I made a program in Python that has buttons that do nothing. I am unstoppable. 19:14:50 nice 19:15:10 kudos! :D 19:23:48 I see Veloren has reached a new level of fame 19:24:37 its just one of those days id rather make stupid bash scripts.... 19:26:27 you can do amazing things in bash 19:26:34 it all comes full circle 20:25:41 argh! what is this shit in my height variable 20:25:43 033 [ 0 m 5 1 0 1 \n 20:25:55 033[0m mY ASS! 20:26:36 this is text color control sequence 20:28:03 thanks 20:30:19 Bash is just a glorified pipe 20:30:56 yeah and a quite ugly one... but it's everywhere, out of the box lol 20:32:46 thats why i like it the most 20:33:26 I guess bash is more like glue actually 20:50:11 selsta, u'll be happy. i modded the script so it doesn't just check for "1"'s 20:51:01 nice 20:58:30 im hesitant to put this out in the wild, for instance, on reddit. this can help linux users, but non-tech users can't use it 20:59:03 though it could be good for remote node operators to use it, and most of them are prolly linux 20:59:17 gingeropolous: what does your script do? :D 21:00:04 gingeropolous: fwiw after I have banned ~120 of these I don't seem to get them anymore 21:00:24 1. creates a secondary short monerod blockchain. 2. uses this chain to connect to peers. 3. finds peers that mirror this short blockchain height 4. blocks those peers in the systems primary monerod 5. goto 1 21:01:29 So it tries to identify and block bad/malicious nodes? 21:01:49 well, just bad/malicious nodes that use the mirror technique 21:03:39 Nice 21:04:11 Btw I check peers using netstat (-ntp), is there a way to do it from monerod ? 21:05:09 sync_info ... 21:05:14 i wonder why they mirror the response instead of taking the most common block height of all their peers 21:05:45 https://gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt 21:05:48 that’s my list ^^ 21:06:00 all of them OVH so most likely one person 21:06:29 then they'd probably have to run monerod , but i dunno asymptotically 21:07:06 they'd just need to implement the p2p protocol in their own program 21:07:43 if you only have these peers you will stop syncing due to being on the same height? 21:07:45 not sure 21:08:01 What could be their motives? I assume it's not due to outdated monerod? 21:08:53 do chainanalysis use ovh? :P hard to tell since their site is hiding behind buttflare 21:09:00 spying, sabotage 21:09:37 @selsta I seem to remember a comment from moneromooo to a user who was stuck to an old height, and was advised to delete p2p file. 21:10:12 Because those bad nodes only referred him to other bad nodes. 21:15:23 is there still a block explorer on the old chain? 21:16:26 hrm, i dunno 21:22:04 Centralization is great. https://twitter.com/Cleroth/status/1318911490863337472 21:32:52 Inge-: https://twitter.com/miguelytob/status/1315749803041619981 21:33:05 this one is ridiculous too, this guy works at google lol 21:55:59 hi 21:56:45 i used https://coinswitch.co/pro/dashboard/exchange and i transfers my bitcoin into monero. The coins havent sent and their support team told me to contact you guys. Is there any help i can get. 21:57:45 Do you have a transaction hash for the Monero transaction? 22:00:15 yes i do 22:00:26 can i post it in here? 22:03:47 Not yet 22:03:54 Can you first check if you can see it on a block explorer? 22:06:26 Just came back to report that 2 out of 12 peers of my monerod were in fact bad/malicious. They are seemingly stuck ~600 blocks back and are both OVH dedicated (according to whois). I would imagine that TPTB do that to "map" the Monero nodes. 22:07:41 After blocking them (iptables fw) I now have 12/12 peers showing same correct blockheight. 22:08:06 do i paste the hash into the explorer? 22:08:22 on this https://localmonero.co/blocks/search/37a65b6f18358a9d87b642960204afa7a54f23a13e239f8155687711f1c8c1ad ? 22:09:36 \\ 22:13:20 AFAIK monerod doesn't offer a feature to block a bad/malicious peer, so I'd have to do it at the system (firewall) level, right? 22:15:06 monerouser1144: "ban ip duration" 22:15:14 but it gets reset after restart 22:17:00 bobby: transaction looks okay 22:17:11 which wallet are you using? 22:18:12 gui wallet from monero website 22:18:32 @selsta Great, kudos to the developers again. I'll use it next time I spot a bad peer. 22:19:02 Can you go to Settings -> Log and type "status" 22:19:08 and post the output here 22:20:52 22:21:10 i did it yesterday 22:24:09 Can you do it again? I don't know what you posted yesterday 22:25:14 Hmm, another bad peer showed up (IP not from OVH), this one is just 2 blocks behind "synchronizing". Despite the fact that I invoked monerod with "--in-peers 0". 22:26:11 monerouser1144: that does not sound like a bad peer 22:27:09 the previous one you posted also does not sound malicious as both of them don't mirror your height 22:27:23 [2020-10-21 3:18 PM] 2020-10-21 22:18:43.145 I Monero 'Nitrogen Nebula' (v0.16.0.3-release) 22:27:23 Height: 1, target: 1 (100%) 22:27:25 Downloading at 4 kB/s 22:27:26 Next needed pruning seed: 1 22:27:27 1 peers 22:27:29 54.39.75.52:16138 0000000000000000 before_handshake 0 0 4 kB/s, 0 blocks / 0 MB queued 22:27:30 0 spans, 0 MB 22:27:31 [] 22:27:39 You have to update to v0.17.1.1 22:29:45 yourmom123 22:30:27 [2020-10-21 3:29 PM] 2020-10-21 22:29:57.421 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.1-release) 22:30:28 Height: 1, target: 1 (100%) 22:30:29 Downloading at 12 kB/s 22:30:31 Next needed pruning seed: 1 22:30:32 2 peers 22:30:33 178.62.112.215:18080 0000000000000000 before_handshake 0 0 0 kB/s, 0 blocks / 0 MB queued 22:30:34 54.39.75.52:16138 ef9f24d1d1fc34c7 normal 0 0 12 kB/s, 0 blocks / 0 MB queued 22:30:36 0 spans, 0 MB 22:30:37 [] 22:31:12 Can you post it on paste.debian.net ? This does not display correctly over IRC 22:32:22 also once you updated to the new version wait a bit for it to synchronize 22:32:25 @selsta, OK but it seemed odd that one peer is stuck for 10+min at 2213534 (2-3 blocks behind) "synchonizing" and another peer at block 1 as "normal". Anyway, I don't care much, as I don't do mainnet tx (I don't have any xmr yet). 22:33:27 1.545371271802 22:33:35 somehow i have my monero now 22:34:15 thank you so much 22:34:42 glad it showed up, monero had a network upgrade so the old version stopped working 22:35:48 monerouser1144: can have various reasons why they are stuck but don't think banning them is necessary as they don't seem malicious 22:36:58 Could they be under attack as well, and are transmitting the static block height to other peers 22:37:34 or they are nodes started with --no-sync 22:38:40 If I am running a node, with no special configuration, are other peers looking to me to get a consensus of the blockchain? 22:38:53 yes 22:39:41 So my idea could be possible 22:40:30 @selsta please have a look http://paste.debian.net/1168201/ 22:41:18 no need to ban them 22:41:42 no need to ban them 22:44:20 OK, I won't ban them. But will monitor them for the next few days. 22:46:57 Btw BTC just made multi-month new highs, breaking $13k. 22:48:31 wrong channel ^ 22:49:00 did monero go up too? 22:49:07 that would be cool 22:49:22 .usd 23:24:35 Ummm what are you talking about man? BTC went to like almost $20k a couple years back. $13k isn't a high. 23:25:02 I mean it's nothing to shrug off, but it's not the higgh 23:25:49 LOL 23:44:35 @riceandbeans if you're responding to me, I wrote "multi-month new highs", not "all time highs" (ATH). But as hyc noted, this is a topic for another channel. 23:51:58 i'm on tails gui monero, it says "synchronizing wallet" and the progress bar has hung at zero for ages. underneath it says "daemon is synchronized". will this impede me from receiving a payment? 23:58:07 multifractal_: which node are you connected to? 23:59:19 selsta: a remote node - how do i find its name? 23:59:49 Does Settings -> Node menu exist? 23:59:57 hello