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adeus[m]
When will we get android wallet that works with Tor/offers socks proxy support ?
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dsc_
adeus[m]: maybe soon
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dsc_
4-5 months
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dsc_
depending on how much time I have
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zib
lol
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horsepatat
oh boy using monero sure is pain, you type transfer into teh wallet cli and it freezes
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horsepatat
for next hour it might or it might not come back alive
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horsepatat
but then I know it will work second time I try that
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horsepatat
so whenever I want to trasnfer some, I just plan ahead to give it that hour for thinking
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horsepatat
nevermind it changed its mind and asked if I am sure
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horsepatat
took just 5 minutes, did I over exagerate?
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Inge-
horsepatat: I never have issues like that. unless it has a huge amount of inputs it uses to create a transaction?
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horsepatat
how would I know if it does?
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Inge-
incoming_transfers available ?
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selsta
horsepatat: that does not sound normal at all
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selsta
are you using a hardware wallet?
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horsepatat
incoming_transfers says 1 transfer
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horsepatat
I am using monero-wallet-cli
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horsepatat
which kinda connects to monerd me figures
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selsta
yes, but are you using monero-wallet-cli in combination with a ledger / trezor?
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selsta
also which node are you using?
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horsepatat
no idea what those are, so probably no
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horsepatat
my local node? arent you supposed to use it like that?
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selsta
yes, you should
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selsta
is this a normal computer?
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horsepatat
my desktop puter, yes
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selsta
it should not take longer than a couple seconds
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horsepatat
should I describe disks the blockchain sits on?
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selsta
yes, if it is something special
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horsepatat
it's raid I forgot which level, but total of 5 spinnig rust disks
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horsepatat
so not a single 2.5" dying piece of hard drive
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selsta
network drive?
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horsepatat
no, literally in this computers case
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horsepatat
mounted without any magic
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horsepatat
and I make sure nothing else is running when I try to transfer anything
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horsepatat
to be honest there is not much disk activity going on
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selsta
for testing purposes, can you start monero-wallet-cli with e.g. --daemon-address node.xmr.to:18081
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selsta
and check if it is faster?
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horsepatat
maybe weird monero version? it's 0.15
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selsta
should be okay but I would recommend to update to v0.16
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selsta
also v0.17 will be released today so might want to wait one more day
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horsepatat
hah
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horsepatat
good timing, will wait then
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horsepatat
it's been always like this with previous version I remember too
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selsta
definitely not normal
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horsepatat
there is also bitcoin-qt running ( sometimes ), not now, and it has no such issues
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selsta
I would try v0.17 once it is released. if the issue persists ask again here
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horsepatat
okay, interesting, I had impression its just how it works for past 2 years lol
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horsepatat
somehow I feel unease with connecting my wallet to some 3rd party node
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horsepatat
I think I had a chum change on testnet of monero
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selsta
testnet should work too
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horsepatat
if that one lags too, might be muh computer
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horsepatat
"The blockchain is on a rotating drive: this will be very slow, use an SSD if possible"
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horsepatat
I mean, there are probably only 5 people in world who can afford SSD for blockchain storage
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selsta
pruned blockchain is ~30GB, storage isn’t really an issue
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horsepatat
then I might store it even on my laptop
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endor00[m]
how big should the unpruned blockchain file be?
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horsepatat
90G
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horsepatat
BTC is on 320G
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horsepatat
god damn that mining not enabled nag opening new wallets
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horsepatat
so how long should that Starting refresh usually take?
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horsepatat
Height 1334465 / 1544280
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endor00[m]
<horsepatat "god damn that mining not enabled"> very annoying indeed
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endor00[m]
<horsepatat "Height 1334465 / 1544280"> oof, how long since you last synced your node?
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horsepatat
that's that testnet
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horsepatat
I am going to see if its slow as hell too
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endor00[m]
oooh, makes sense
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horsepatat
ok, it synced, I am create a new one to transfer some from this one
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horsepatat
starting refresh on new
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horsepatat
hit transfer addr 1
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horsepatat
entered password and now waiting, ( this is where mainnet freezes for up to an hour )
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horsepatat
and its sent
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horsepatat
other wallet detects it with refresh
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horsepatat
so it doesnt lag on testnet
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arne_
hellooooo can somebody tell me about a good open node?
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arne_
public node, whatever it is called
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selsta
node.xmr.to:18081 node.supportxmr.com:18081 uwillrunanodesoon.moneroworld.com:18089
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moneromooo
That message is supposed to appear only once. After you say no, can run run "set" and see what the value of setup-background-mining is ?
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selsta
once per wallet?
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moneromooo
Yes.
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selsta
yea, I think horsepatat was talking about this
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moneromooo
You mean... it was appearing just once and that was too much ?
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arne_
is connecting to a random node dangerous?
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moneromooo
Somewhat.
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moneromooo
Depends what you mean by "dangeorus".
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moneromooo
You can't lose your coins directly.
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moneromooo
(though it increases the attack surface, so you never know).
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horsepatat
it does appear only once you create the wallet, then it goes on to appear in red every time you open wallet
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moneromooo
A malicious node can do things like make you think you got money. Or prevent you from sending.
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moneromooo
You mean a prompt, or just a message ?
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horsepatat
just a message in red you havent turned on mining
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moneromooo
Ah. Good. And a message you don;t have to answer is too annoying ?
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horsepatat
because its in red - it makes me feel bad
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moneromooo
Well, you can turn it on then :) It's not full tilt mining, if that wasn't clear It'll just use some percent of your CPU when it's otherwise idle..
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arne_
well as soon i don't trust it, but my bills are paid im fine, right?
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arne_
as long*
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Febo
Why was yesterday (this morning) so many big transactions? Someone was spending old coins that used old outputs? Or i dont knwo what I am talking about?
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sech1
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Febo
yes 26k instead of 2
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sech1
someone was merging a lot of outputs, but it doesn't look like old outputs
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sech1
this is not Bitcoin, you know. We never can know for sure.
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lza_menace
how do I figure out the network byte for a monero fork? is it whatever the new prefix is but converted to hex?
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lza_menace
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rbrunner
lza_menace: I would say so. Just take something that results in the addresses you want. Turtlecoin produces an address prefix of "TRTL" with:
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rbrunner
const uint64_t CRYPTONOTE_PUBLIC_ADDRESS_BASE58_PREFIX = 3914525;
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rbrunner
Just found this now:
cryptonotestarter.org/tools.html with a tool to find out those prefixes
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lza_menace
nice!
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lza_menace
thanks rbrunner!
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m3rc
hey guys i'm new - probably a stupid question. If I purchase a stable coin on an exchange like binance, then use that to purchase monero , then move that monero to a private wallet that I own, is that tracked? how "private" is the monero in my wallet at that point?
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lza_menace
wow, that tool is great
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lza_menace
I had heard of the site but didn't realize it gave so much insight into the internals
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moneromooo
Binance will know you bought that many monero. Typically, they won't know when you spend that monero, and how much.
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moneromooo
However, there are special cases where they can get some hints.
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moneromooo
But at a first approximation, once you have the monero, it's private.
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chaya2766[m]
if you're running ur own full node nobody should be able to connect your transactions that u make from it (untill quantum computers at least), so if that is where u move the monero & then send it to a different wallet, it should be pretty much disconnected from what binance knows (unless ur computer tells on you)
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m3rc
thanks guys
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chaya2766[m]
yw<3
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m3rc
just out of curiosity what are the special cases?
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dsc_
np: Massive Attack - Special Cases
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lza_menace
dsc_ is a special case :P
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chaya2766[m]
also iirc u have to give ur view key to another node if u use a mobile wallet or a remote node in the official wallet, so if that node keeps it & binance then somehow gets it they would be able to view ur wallet
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chaya2766[m]
(not sure if that's how it works exactly, might need somebody who knows more than me)
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moneromooo
Something with sending someone repeatedly, and that person sends to Binance.
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chaya2766[m]
* also iirc u have to give ur view key to another node if u use a mobile wallet or a remote node in the official wallet, so if that node keeps it & binance then somehow gets it they would be able to view ur wallet
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chaya2766[m]
(not sure if that's how it works exactly, might need somebody who knows more than me, but I *think* that's right)
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moneromooo
Then Binance can notice there a lot more matching history than chance would normally suggest.
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ndorf
chaya2766[m]: no, you don't surrender your view key when using a remote node. only when using a specific type of wallet service, like MyMonero, that does the scanning server-side
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m3rc
hmm.. so if I were to create a bunch of wallets and transfer the monero between them from the wallet I received it from binance it should theoretically be completely in the void to them
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artefact
aka churning. and it's somewhat controversial
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moneromooo
Yeah, it doesn't really help as much as you think it does unless you do it very carefully.
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moneromooo
And I'm not 100% sure what very carefully here is :)
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rbrunner
After a thankfully long run of uptime the Mattermost relay finally went titsup today. pigeons, can you please prod the poor thing? Thanks!
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Inge-
moneromooo: sweep_single a few times at irregular intervals?
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Inge-
So, will the US stop people from downloading wechat and tiktok and from paying via them in the US now?