so this is a weird idea, I have no concept of how .... weird it is.

OK, so we're always kicking around this problem of how to get people to solo mine.

well, not a problem. well it is. But you know. Anyway

i think I need some whiskey. My arm hurts. stupid nerves. anyway.

My point is. You can solo mine. And you can create your own collection of proofs of work. And sign these proofs of work. With your monero key.

So now there's the ability to connect a level of network altruism to a particular monero address.

well i dunno if we call it network altruism

Now what we do with this I'm not sure. Does an ecosystem exist where you can only enter certain websites or bars of your monero key shows 1.5 total megahashes?

Can you create proof of work keys for the sole purpose of selling them to someone that needs this level of ... whatever it is

i mean obviously, the other end of the transaction would take the monero proof of work key, and the n MB hash file and check that the key is actually worth the total hashes the owner says its worth

because anyone with a monero daemon could use this file with the data from the chain.... hrmmm timestamp

damnit

well that was fun while it lasted

well... the economics might fix that

if your going to create monero hash keys, you might as well be hashing on the tip of the chain

instead of trying to say "well I made these hashes back when no one knew about monero"

there's an economic incentive to make the keys with real hashes

and there's not really an incentive for the hashes to necessarily be old..

although, you could actually. You could do something where when your solo mining, you include in your block template a signature, and something that connects that block to your previous work. Some hashchain of somekind.

So in the case that you *do* mine a solo block, there's now proof that this key mined the block and it also contributed n hashes before mining the block

hmmmm (maniacal chuckle). This also gets at blockchain bloat because these transactions aren't on chain.

well, transfer of ownership would be tricky. "oh i sold this hashkey to you and I totally deleted it"

but maybe its not 0 sum

maybe its when you buy a hashkey, your total hashvalue level goes up, but the sellers just stays the same.

interesting this magical internet money

thank you, thank you. I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your server.

*crash*

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when monero got the update to support ledger wallet with CLI I created a wallet and moved all my monero there. Now it seems to all be gone. Can anyone help me recovering my wallet?

since then i wiped my entire computer. I have my old 25 word seed from my original wallet, and I have my ledger seed. Both seem to not work correctly, but I feel like I could be restoring the wallet improperly. I have the newest monero gui client, just downloaded it from getmonero.org

when I say they arent working properly I just mean that both display 0 monero in my wallet currently. they still seem to create a wallet though

Define "seem to not work correctly".

Oh, you did.

are you entering your ledger's seed into the monero wallet?

or using the ledger

It might just be the refresh-frm-height. In monero-wallet-cli, type "set".

[discord] <Kayla#5718>: ./monero-wallet-cli --restore-deterministic-wallet

[discord] <Kayla#5718>: thats how u did so far?

i used the ledger to restore the wallet

and i attempted my old seed to see if maybe i was wrong about sending the monero

but i used that original seed in the client

i guess i will download the CLI client and try that out

ah i just noticed the ledger has wallet blocks remaining...

[keybase] <kaylasu>: good luck, after pasting the mnemonic seed in the CLI typing show_transfers might help figuring out what happened

thanks i will do some testing with the cli client

what should i type for 'restore from specific blockchain height'

A height that's shortly before (or way before to be 100% sure) the earliest height you got any monero there.

i guess i will just start at 0 since I have no idea

That works (slowly).

if its what ive got to do, i guess its what ive got to do

If you never mined to that address, you can set refresh-type to no-coinbase too.

unfortunately im not sure if i mined to it or not

just an update if anyone is curious, i recovered my monero. thanks for the help

\o/

yay :)

What was the problem ?

the monero was never sent to ledger

i see my first transaction on this wallet was after blockheight 1370000

should i write this number down so that if i need the blockchain again i can start at that blockheight?

Sure.