03:10:35 <gingeropolous> so this is a weird idea, I have no concept of how .... weird it is.
03:10:57 <gingeropolous> OK, so we're always kicking around this problem of how to get people to solo mine.
03:11:12 <gingeropolous> well, not a problem. well it is. But you know. Anyway
03:11:31 <gingeropolous> i think I need some whiskey. My arm hurts. stupid nerves. anyway.
03:12:23 <gingeropolous> My point is. You can solo mine. And you can create your own collection of proofs of work. And sign these proofs of work. With your monero key.
03:13:11 <gingeropolous> So now there's the ability to connect a level of network altruism to a particular monero address.
03:13:26 <gingeropolous> well i dunno if we call it network altruism
03:14:28 <gingeropolous> Now what we do with this I'm not sure. Does an ecosystem exist where you can only enter certain websites or bars of your monero key shows 1.5 total megahashes?
03:15:08 <gingeropolous> Can you create proof of work keys for the sole purpose of selling them to someone that needs this level of ... whatever it is
03:15:58 <gingeropolous> i mean obviously, the other end of the transaction would take the monero proof of work key, and the n MB hash file and check that the key is actually worth the total hashes the owner says its worth
03:16:35 <gingeropolous> because anyone with a monero daemon could use this file with the data from the chain.... hrmmm timestamp
03:16:38 <gingeropolous> damnit
03:17:01 <gingeropolous> well that was fun while it lasted
03:19:39 <gingeropolous> well... the economics might fix that
03:20:24 <gingeropolous> if your going to create monero hash keys, you might as well be hashing on the tip of the chain
03:20:46 <gingeropolous> instead of trying to say "well I made these hashes back when no one knew about monero"
03:21:09 <gingeropolous> there's an economic incentive to make the keys with real hashes
03:21:51 <gingeropolous> and there's not really an incentive for the hashes to necessarily be old..
03:23:36 <gingeropolous> although, you could actually. You could do something where when your solo mining, you include in your block template a signature, and something that connects that block to your previous work. Some hashchain of somekind.
03:24:25 <gingeropolous> So in the case that you *do* mine a solo block, there's now proof that this key mined the block and it also contributed n hashes before mining the block
03:26:11 <gingeropolous> hmmmm (maniacal chuckle). This also gets at blockchain bloat because these transactions aren't on chain.
03:28:16 <gingeropolous> well, transfer of ownership would be tricky. "oh i sold this hashkey to you and I totally deleted it"
03:28:24 <gingeropolous> but maybe its not 0 sum
03:29:21 <gingeropolous> maybe its when you buy a hashkey, your total hashvalue level goes up, but the sellers just stays the same.
03:30:21 <gingeropolous> interesting this magical internet money
03:30:53 <gingeropolous> thank you, thank you. I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your server.
03:31:51 <moneromooo> *crash*
04:17:27 <rottensox> ICYMI. Revuo Issue 43 (Jan 10-17 2020) - https://revuo-monero.com/issue-43.html
08:54:08 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmr-romine> Reminder that there is an onioned youtube, seeable thru torbrowser http://kgg2m7yk5aybusll.onion
08:54:09 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmr-romine> with monero talk channel : http://kgg2m7yk5aybusll.onion/watch?v=UgqYeVbeCjA
15:59:48 <kinghat> https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1218229964916568064
20:32:43 <Connor222> when monero got the update to support ledger wallet with CLI I created a wallet and moved all my monero there. Now it seems to all be gone. Can anyone help me recovering my wallet?
20:34:01 <Connor222> since then i wiped my entire computer. I have my old 25 word seed from my original wallet, and I have my ledger seed. Both seem to not work correctly, but I feel like I could be restoring the wallet improperly. I have the newest monero gui client, just downloaded it from getmonero.org
20:34:45 <Connor222> when I say they arent working properly I just mean that both display 0 monero in my wallet currently. they still seem to create a wallet though
20:35:24 <moneromooo> Define "seem to not work correctly".
20:35:31 <moneromooo> Oh, you did.
20:35:36 <asymptotically> are you entering your ledger's seed into the monero wallet?
20:35:39 <asymptotically> or using the ledger
20:35:43 <moneromooo> It might just be the refresh-frm-height. In monero-wallet-cli, type "set".
20:36:38 <derpy_bridge> [discord] <Kayla#5718>: ./monero-wallet-cli --restore-deterministic-wallet
20:36:49 <derpy_bridge> [discord] <Kayla#5718>: thats how u did so far?
20:41:04 <Connor222> i used the ledger to restore the wallet
20:41:20 <Connor222> and i attempted my old seed to see if maybe i was wrong about sending the monero
20:41:30 <Connor222> but i used that original seed in the client
20:41:44 <Connor222> i guess i will download the CLI client and try that out
20:42:42 <Connor222> ah i just noticed the ledger has wallet blocks remaining...
20:42:49 <derpy_bridge> [keybase] <kaylasu>: good luck, after pasting the mnemonic seed in the CLI typing show_transfers might help figuring out what happened
20:43:31 <Connor222> thanks i will do some testing with the cli client
20:53:47 <Connor222> what should i type for 'restore from specific blockchain height'
20:54:18 <moneromooo> A height that's shortly before (or way before to be 100% sure) the earliest height you got any monero there.
20:54:41 <Connor222> i guess i will just start at 0 since I have no idea
20:54:50 <moneromooo> That works (slowly).
20:55:08 <Connor222> if its what ive got to do, i guess its what ive got to do
20:55:26 <moneromooo> If you never mined to that address, you can set refresh-type to no-coinbase too.
20:55:52 <Connor222> unfortunately im not sure if i mined to it or not
22:26:40 <Connor222> just an update if anyone is curious, i recovered my monero. thanks for the help
22:26:53 <nioc> \o/
22:28:13 <moneromooo> yay :)
22:28:17 <moneromooo> What was the problem ?
22:43:51 <Connor222> the monero was never sent to ledger
22:44:59 <Connor222> i see my first transaction on this wallet was after blockheight 1370000
22:45:16 <Connor222> should i write this number down so that if i need the blockchain again i can start at that blockheight?
22:48:18 <moneromooo> Sure.