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DisBotXMR
<sgp> test 🙂
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sgp_
test :)
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NickvanSaberhagn
Read you loud and clear sgp
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sgp_
NickvanSaberhagn: ty :)
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fintek
I've restored the pass-phrases from an old wallet, but the address I was mining with doesn't show up after restoring. Am I doing something wrong, or did I save the wrong wallet?
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fintek
All i get is a new empty wallet, with zero transactions
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Mochi102
fintek, you're using the latest Monero wallet to restore? Chain is synced?
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Mochi102
Did you restore from block 0 or a block that you know is prior to you ever using the wallet?
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fintek
Mochi102 I when I tried to restore the old wallet GUI, the strangely the next arrow button would stay grey with the 25 words, strangely id would turn orange with 24 words, but the restore would of course fail.
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fintek
so I downloaded a new version and restored it and synced it.
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Mochi102
What do you mean the old wallet GUI?
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fintek
old GUI software version
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Mochi102
You need to use the most current version of the Monero wallet.
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fintek
Now I have the newest.
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Mochi102
Your funds have nothing to do with the wallet... they are not in the wallet... the wallet is just a tool to access the blockchain.
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Mochi102
Ok, and are you using a public node or do you have the blockchain locally?
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fintek
I used a public node to be faster, the local node was taking too long
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Mochi102
Good
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Mochi102
and you restored it with the new GUI wallet and it still shows no balance and no transactions?
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fintek
Correct.
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Mochi102
Strange...
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fintek
Does it mean I have the wrong wallet?
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Mochi102
Likely
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Mochi102
Likely means you are not restoring the wallet that you think you are.
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fintek
is there a way I can get the old wallet to access the funds?
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fintek
it still has the .keys
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fintek
file
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Mochi102
Your Monero are not "in" the wallet.
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Mochi102
You can open that file with the newest wallet.
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fintek
I'll give that a try. Thanks.
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h2017
hi
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DisBotXMR
<Emmanuel> test
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Mochi102
Welcome newbies!
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Ejderha[m]
Soo I decided to my Monero from Binance. Official monero wallet is a good way to store them I guess:" (If not please make some recommendatitons) I hodl Monero and sometimes use it for purchasing stuff online. Should I just go for GUI wallet? I dont have a coding background or stuff, is CLI wallet make any good for me,why, and if yes how to learn it. I am probably going to download and store "my investment in xmr" in GUI
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Ejderha[m]
wallet buut just wanted to learn opinions of you wise humans
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Ejderha[m]
Thanks^^
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kayront
Ejderha[m]: if you're comfortable with the cli or wanting to improve your console skills, the cli wallet is a perfectly good choice. i use it almost exclusively and so do many others
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kayront
how to learn it: same as everything else: get it going, type help, read the docs, and ask questions :)
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kayront
and finally, if you're buying an amount you'd mind losing, storing it all in a hot wallet (whether it be cli or gui) is probably a bad idea.
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Ejderha[m]
Ah I see
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Ejderha[m]
Well I dont have much money lol
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Ejderha[m]
But is it better to have it on cli or binance?
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endor00[m]
If it's on Binance, you don't actually own it
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endor00[m]
All you have is an IOU from Binance that they pinky swear to give you when you ask for it
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endor00[m]
So keep your Monero safe in a wallet you control - whether it's the cli, gui, or mobile
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Ejderha[m]
Yeah I see
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Ejderha[m]
Thanks for responsing
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Ejderha[m]
<kayront "and finally, if you're buying an"> Do you have any hardware wallet recommendation?
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Ejderha[m]
Getmonero refers to ledger and it seems like to good to be true lol
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Ejderha[m]
Also not that expensive...
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kayront
endor00[m] has the right idea. you should self-custody to take full leverage of what this tech can offer you, but that comes with new risks and added responsibility, which you must become familiar with and accept
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kayront
or don't, but then it's not much better than a bank
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kayront
Ejderha[m]: ledger nano s works well ime
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kayront
i don't know if the X is supported nowdays. last year i looked into it and the bluetooth/wifi? kept me off it. i prefer the S, it's simpler
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Ejderha[m]
X is supposed to be better?
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kayront
i don't know about better. it's definitely newer. and it has more storage space (you can have more apps on the device)
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Ejderha[m]
<kayront "or don't, but then it's not much"> I understand that thoose exchange platforms are all against the main purpose of crypto
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Ejderha[m]
And I am not quite happy since I heard MtGox lol
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kayront
yes Ejderha[m]. although realistically speaking, most people will choose to delegate the custody to exchange and/or banks (in the near future)
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kayront
question is, will you be most people? :P
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Ejderha[m]
<kayront "i don't know about better. it's "> Soo as an average user, S will do fine for me since I have maybe 5k$ total?
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kayront
taking care of your own cash will teach you some new skills and ways of thinking. because the moment it starts being an appreciable sum, you'll care for it and take needed precautions. as i said, added responsibility.. but imo worth it
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Ejderha[m]
I am ok with responsibility, I need to learn it
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Ejderha[m]
Dude Im like 18 so Its time to start something fresh lol
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Mochi102
18... so responsibility is #1 concern.
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Ejderha[m]
I can afford to lose my money if I lose them due to my fault
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Ejderha[m]
It wont be bad as if Binance get hacked or smth:(
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kayront
Ejderha[m]: good thinking. so i'd say learn the cli wallet and when you're comfortable with it (and have made a physical backup of the seed words) transfer a bit from binance and acclimatize to the idea
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kayront
later get a ledger and set it up. you can also connect it to the cli wallet
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Ejderha[m]
Thats cool
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Ejderha[m]
Well, Ledger hardware decides 20 words
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Ejderha[m]
Is it ok?
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Ejderha[m]
I am can I choose them by rolling a dice in front of a dictionary lol
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kayront
provided you have an original, untampered ledger, it should be fine
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Ejderha[m]
* I mean can I choose them by rolling a dice in front of a dictionary lol
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Ejderha[m]
Ima look it at more depth
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Ejderha[m]
Thanks again:"
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kayront
my pleasure
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vikrants[m]
does anyone know how I can get Cake Wallet listed on bitcoin.org under iOS and Android wallets?
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endogenic
what's bitcoin
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ndorf
endogenic: a fascinating part of computing history from before people figured out private transactions
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endogenic
does it prevent scams
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ndorf
or dynamic block sizes for that matter
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ndorf
only *you* can prevent crypto scams.
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endogenic
probably true. would explain a lot
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mawk
is cake wallet that good?
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mawk
on the sites I spend my moneros on they all advocate against it
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mawk
why do you want to have this listed vikrants[m] ?
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vikrants[m]
<mawk "why do you want to have this lis"> Since we have a bitcoin wallet now in the app.
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vikrants[m]
<mawk "on the sites I spend my moneros "> which sites?
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mawk
some sites I can't tell about without going to jail
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mawk
but I think it's related with the number of decimals supported by cakewallet
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mawk
it's not as much as say monero gui
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mawk
so it has issues with users sending transactions with not enough decimals and getting rejected and so on
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vikrants[m]
<mawk "but I think it's related with th"> that's been fixed
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mawk
ah
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mawk
should tell these sites one day or another then
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mawk
to gain more users
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vikrants[m]
<mawk "should tell these sites one day "> ok will try to find that comment.
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mawk
I can send them a message next time I go on them
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vikrants[m]
<mawk "I can send them a message next t"> Thanks so much
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jnphkwbvd
Remember kids. If you call project coral reef for what it is - fluffy embezzling half a mil usd from the monero fund for a website with smaller adoption than monero woo plugin, you will get excommunicated. Why do you think charities need Teslas? They don't and Elon won't support Monero 150k will sure buy a lot of party time for those that actually do get it.
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gingeropolous
.isup cryptonote.org
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DisBotXMR
<Proofofwork> hello!
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gingeropolous
hello!
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Lovestrange[m]
<jnphkwbvd "Remember kids. If you call proje"> is all they did was approach a talent agency and convince them to accept for their shitty merch? I don't see monero under the types of payments accepted. That's as far as I got
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louipc
yea its all bands lol
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groyr[m]
hello
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fluffydonkey[m]
hi
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diverter[m]
<vikrants[m] "does anyone know how I can get C"> Good luck with that lol they won't even list Samourai, even though it is far and away the best bitcoin wallet in the entire space.
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diverter[m]
Way too much politics and bullshit when dealing with Cobra.
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childofthecorn[m
Who is cobra?
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fluffydonkey[m]
G.I Joe's arch nemeses
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omega
one wayy to test your connection to the Daemon is rescan_bc
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diverter[m]
<childofthecorn[m "Who is cobra?"> The owner/maintainer of bitcoin.org. **_And_** G.I. Joe's arch nemesis.
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diverter[m]
The site straight up lies about what is available to users. Essentially, everyone should run Core wallet on desktop and a hardware wallet. How dare you ask for a wallet that is actually designed tl help (brace yourselves) spend bitcoin 😱
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diverter[m]
* The site straight up lies about what is available to users. Essentially, everyone should run Core wallet on desktop and a hardware wallet. How dare you ask for a wallet that is actually designed to help (brace yourselves) **_spend_** bitcoin 😱
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DisBotXMR
<Wharrgarrbl> what
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diverter[m]
I'll see myself out
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rupee[m]1
they have a lot of wallets listed though
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rupee[m]1
what's the reasoning for not adding samourai?
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diverter[m]
Red wallet mean
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rupee[m]1
i mean, i get the cobra politics thing, but did he give any reason this time?
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diverter[m]
I'm not being facetious. Just doesn't like the devs.
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diverter[m]
If you use their wallet selector tool, you can't even choose a mobile wallet that has validation (full node) capabilities. They twisted the meaning to mean no actual mobile wallet runs a full BTC node on mobile, rather than a mobile wallet that allows for connecting to your own node, for example. Privacy is available for zero mobile wallets. Shit like that.
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rupee[m]1
got it
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rupee[m]1
well they have edge, which supports monero, so Cake should definitely try to get on there
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diverter[m]
Cake should be on there, I agree. Just saying don't be too surprised if it doesn't make the cut for some asinine reason.
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x[m]1
testing testing 123
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moneromooo
Target acquired.
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x[m]1
pew
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DisBotXMR
<Rico> 200€ waiting room
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DisBotXMR
<Rico> We are going parabolic now
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x[m]1
for what
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louipc
sounds like a nice trajectory
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x[m]1
but if monero is supposed to be a currency what's the price in fiat matter?
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x[m]1
all of crypto is in yet another mania phase
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x[m]1
oh well fuck it, ya to the moon etc etc
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louipc
price in fiat is a reference
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louipc
i guess you can price in gold ounce if you really want
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louipc
but theres not enough trading volume to give an accurate picture..