02:40:51 <DisBotXMR> <sgp> test 🙂
02:40:54 <sgp_> test :)
03:09:00 <NickvanSaberhagn> Read you loud and clear sgp
03:09:18 <sgp_> NickvanSaberhagn: ty :)
06:14:09 <fintek> I've restored the pass-phrases from an old wallet, but the address I was mining with doesn't show up after restoring. Am I doing something wrong, or did I save the wrong wallet?
06:14:53 <fintek> All i get is a new empty wallet, with zero transactions
06:15:51 <Mochi102> fintek, you're using the latest Monero wallet to restore? Chain is synced?
06:17:14 <Mochi102> Did you restore from block 0 or a block that you know is prior to you ever using the wallet?
06:18:29 <fintek> Mochi102 I when I tried to restore the old wallet GUI, the strangely the next arrow button would stay grey with the 25 words,  strangely id would turn orange with 24 words, but the restore would of course fail.
06:18:48 <fintek> so I downloaded a new version and restored it and synced it.
06:19:39 <Mochi102> What do you mean the old wallet GUI?
06:19:57 <fintek> old GUI software version
06:20:04 <Mochi102> You need to use the most current version of the Monero wallet.
06:20:28 <fintek> Now I have the newest.
06:20:34 <Mochi102> Your funds have nothing to do with the wallet... they are not in the wallet... the wallet is just a tool to access the blockchain.
06:21:17 <Mochi102> Ok, and are you using a public node or do you have the blockchain locally?
06:21:37 <fintek> I used a public node to be faster, the local node was taking too long
06:21:51 <Mochi102> Good
06:22:32 <Mochi102> and you restored it with the new GUI wallet and it still shows no balance and no transactions?
06:22:49 <fintek> Correct.
06:23:48 <Mochi102> Strange...
06:23:55 <fintek> Does it mean I have the wrong wallet?
06:24:01 <Mochi102> Likely
06:24:24 <Mochi102> Likely means you are not restoring the wallet that you think you are.
06:25:16 <fintek> is there a way I can get the old wallet to access the funds?
06:26:00 <fintek> it still has the .keys
06:26:05 <fintek> file
06:26:06 <Mochi102> Your Monero are not "in" the wallet.
06:26:55 <Mochi102> You can open that file with the newest wallet.
06:29:44 <fintek> I'll give that a try. Thanks.
09:40:16 <h2017> hi
10:00:46 <DisBotXMR> <Emmanuel> test
10:19:27 <Mochi102> Welcome newbies!
10:34:16 <Ejderha[m]> Soo I decided to my Monero from Binance. Official monero wallet is a good way to store them I guess:" (If not please make some recommendatitons) I hodl Monero and sometimes use it for purchasing stuff online. Should I just go for GUI wallet? I dont have a coding background or stuff, is CLI wallet make any good for me,why, and if yes how to learn it. I am probably going to download and store "my investment in xmr" in GUI
10:34:16 <Ejderha[m]> wallet buut just wanted to learn opinions of you wise humans
10:34:19 <Ejderha[m]> Thanks^^
10:36:49 <kayront> Ejderha[m]: if you're comfortable with the cli or wanting to improve your console skills, the cli wallet is a perfectly good choice. i use it almost exclusively and so do many others
10:37:25 <kayront> how to learn it: same as everything else: get it going, type help, read the docs, and ask questions :)
10:38:06 <kayront> and finally, if you're buying an amount you'd mind losing, storing it all in a hot wallet (whether it be cli or gui) is probably a bad idea.
10:40:06 <Ejderha[m]> Ah I see
10:40:15 <Ejderha[m]> Well I dont have much money lol
10:40:34 <Ejderha[m]> But is it better to have it on cli  or binance?
10:42:43 <endor00[m]> If it's on Binance, you don't actually own it
10:43:17 <endor00[m]> All you have is an IOU from Binance that they pinky swear to give you when you ask for it
10:43:59 <endor00[m]> So keep your Monero safe in a wallet you control - whether it's the cli, gui, or mobile
10:44:33 <Ejderha[m]> Yeah I see
10:44:38 <Ejderha[m]> Thanks for responsing
10:47:38 <Ejderha[m]> <kayront "and finally, if you're buying an"> Do you have any hardware wallet recommendation?
10:47:59 <Ejderha[m]> Getmonero refers to ledger and it seems like to good to be true lol
10:48:07 <Ejderha[m]> Also not that expensive...
10:48:22 <kayront> endor00[m] has the right idea. you should self-custody to take full leverage of what this tech can offer you, but that comes with new risks and added responsibility, which you must become familiar with and accept
10:48:30 <kayront> or don't, but then it's not much better than a bank
10:48:48 <kayront> Ejderha[m]: ledger nano s works well ime
10:49:18 <kayront> i don't know if the X is supported nowdays. last year i looked into it and the bluetooth/wifi? kept me off it. i prefer the S, it's simpler
10:50:20 <Ejderha[m]> X is supposed to be better?
10:51:04 <kayront> i don't know about better. it's definitely newer. and it has more storage space (you can have more apps on the device)
10:51:09 <Ejderha[m]> <kayront "or don't, but then it's not much"> I understand that thoose exchange platforms are all against the main purpose of crypto
10:51:40 <Ejderha[m]> And I am not quite happy since I heard MtGox lol
10:51:52 <kayront> yes Ejderha[m]. although realistically speaking, most people will choose to delegate the custody to exchange and/or banks (in the near future)
10:52:09 <kayront> question is, will you be most people? :P
10:52:36 <Ejderha[m]> <kayront "i don't know about better. it's "> Soo as an average user, S will do fine for me since I have maybe 5k$ total?
10:52:48 <kayront> taking care of your own cash will teach you some new skills and ways of thinking. because the moment it starts being an appreciable sum, you'll care for it and take needed precautions. as i said, added responsibility.. but imo worth it
10:53:23 <Ejderha[m]> I am ok with responsibility, I need to learn it
10:53:50 <Ejderha[m]> Dude Im like 18 so Its time to start something fresh lol
10:54:14 <Mochi102> 18... so responsibility is #1 concern.
10:55:30 <Ejderha[m]> I can afford to lose my money if I lose them due to my fault
10:55:49 <Ejderha[m]> It wont be bad as if Binance get hacked or smth:(
11:12:07 <kayront> Ejderha[m]: good thinking. so i'd say learn the cli wallet and when you're comfortable with it (and have made a physical backup of the seed words) transfer a bit from binance and acclimatize to the idea
11:12:16 <kayront> later get a ledger and set it up. you can also connect it to the cli wallet
11:14:45 <Ejderha[m]> Thats cool
11:15:06 <Ejderha[m]> Well, Ledger hardware decides 20 words
11:15:12 <Ejderha[m]> Is it ok?
11:15:31 <Ejderha[m]> I am can I choose them by rolling a dice in front of a dictionary lol
11:15:37 <kayront> provided you have an original, untampered ledger, it should be fine
11:15:39 <Ejderha[m]> * I mean can I choose them by rolling a dice in front of a dictionary lol
11:16:11 <Ejderha[m]> Ima look it at more depth
11:16:19 <Ejderha[m]> Thanks again:"
11:17:27 <kayront> my pleasure
15:36:18 <vikrants[m]> does anyone know how I can get Cake Wallet listed on bitcoin.org under iOS and Android wallets?
15:36:55 <endogenic> what's bitcoin
15:40:35 <ndorf> endogenic: a fascinating part of computing history from before people figured out private transactions
15:40:55 <endogenic> does it prevent scams
15:40:56 <ndorf> or dynamic block sizes for that matter
15:41:05 <ndorf> only *you* can prevent crypto scams.
15:41:14 <endogenic> probably true. would explain a lot
15:44:45 <mawk> is cake wallet that good?
15:44:53 <mawk> on the sites I spend my moneros on they all advocate against it
15:44:59 <mawk> why do you want to have this listed vikrants[m] ?
15:45:41 <vikrants[m]> <mawk "why do you want to have this lis"> Since we have a bitcoin wallet now in the app.
15:45:49 <vikrants[m]> <mawk "on the sites I spend my moneros "> which sites?
15:45:57 <mawk> some sites I can't tell about without going to jail
15:46:07 <mawk> but I think it's related with the number of decimals supported by cakewallet
15:46:10 <mawk> it's not as much as say monero gui
15:46:22 <mawk> so it has issues with users sending transactions with not enough decimals and getting rejected and so on
15:46:23 <vikrants[m]> <mawk "but I think it's related with th"> that's been fixed
15:46:27 <mawk> ah
15:46:31 <mawk> should tell these sites one day or another then
15:46:40 <mawk> to gain more users
15:46:52 <vikrants[m]> <mawk "should tell these sites one day "> ok will try to find that comment.
15:47:02 <mawk> I can send them a message next time I go on them
15:47:16 <vikrants[m]> <mawk "I can send them a message next t"> Thanks so much
18:04:54 <jnphkwbvd> Remember kids. If you call project coral reef for what it is - fluffy embezzling half a mil usd from the monero fund for a website with smaller adoption than monero woo plugin, you will get excommunicated. Why do you think charities need Teslas? They don't and Elon won't support Monero 150k will sure buy a lot of party time for those that actually do get it.
18:13:07 <gingeropolous> .isup cryptonote.org
18:37:24 <DisBotXMR> <Proofofwork> hello!
18:39:54 <gingeropolous> hello!
20:07:33 <Lovestrange[m]> <jnphkwbvd "Remember kids. If you call proje"> is all they did was approach a talent agency and convince them to accept for their shitty merch? I don't see monero under the types of payments accepted. That's as far as I got
20:09:34 <louipc> yea its all bands lol
21:18:17 <groyr[m]> hello
21:34:51 <fluffydonkey[m]> hi
22:28:10 <diverter[m]> <vikrants[m] "does anyone know how I can get C"> Good luck with that lol they won't even list Samourai, even though it is far and away the best bitcoin wallet in the entire space.
22:29:02 <diverter[m]> Way too much politics and bullshit when dealing with Cobra.
22:34:02 <childofthecorn[m> Who is cobra?
22:34:42 <fluffydonkey[m]> G.I Joe's arch nemeses
22:49:00 <omega> one wayy to test your connection to the Daemon is rescan_bc
22:57:31 <diverter[m]> <childofthecorn[m "Who is cobra?"> The owner/maintainer of bitcoin.org. **_And_** G.I. Joe's arch nemesis.
23:05:05 <diverter[m]> The site straight up lies about what is available to users. Essentially, everyone should run Core wallet on desktop and a hardware wallet. How dare you ask for a wallet that is actually designed tl help (brace yourselves) spend bitcoin 😱
23:05:19 <diverter[m]> * The site straight up lies about what is available to users. Essentially, everyone should run Core wallet on desktop and a hardware wallet. How dare you ask for a wallet that is actually designed to help (brace yourselves) **_spend_** bitcoin 😱
23:05:36 <DisBotXMR> <Wharrgarrbl> what
23:05:56 <diverter[m]> I'll see myself out
23:08:49 <rupee[m]1> they have a lot of wallets listed though
23:09:08 <rupee[m]1> what's the reasoning for not adding samourai?
23:09:23 <diverter[m]> Red wallet mean
23:09:25 <rupee[m]1> i mean, i get the cobra politics thing, but did he give any reason this time?
23:09:49 <diverter[m]> I'm not being facetious. Just doesn't like the devs.
23:11:53 <diverter[m]> If you use their wallet selector tool, you can't even choose a mobile wallet that has validation (full node) capabilities. They twisted the meaning to mean no actual mobile wallet runs a full BTC node on mobile, rather than a mobile wallet that allows for connecting to your own node, for example. Privacy is available for zero mobile wallets. Shit like that.
23:13:36 <rupee[m]1> got it
23:14:37 <rupee[m]1> well they have edge, which supports monero, so Cake should definitely try to get on there
23:15:37 <diverter[m]> Cake should be on there, I agree. Just saying don't be too surprised if it doesn't make the cut for some asinine reason.
23:47:39 <x[m]1> testing testing 123
23:48:55 <moneromooo> Target acquired.
23:49:35 <x[m]1> pew
23:54:45 <DisBotXMR> <Rico> 200€ waiting room
23:55:00 <DisBotXMR> <Rico> We are going parabolic now
23:55:01 <x[m]1> for what
23:55:39 <louipc> sounds like a nice trajectory
23:56:05 <x[m]1> but if monero is supposed to be a currency what's the price in fiat matter?
23:56:26 <x[m]1> all of crypto is in yet another mania phase
23:58:04 <x[m]1> oh well fuck it, ya to the moon etc etc
23:58:30 <louipc> price in fiat is a reference
23:58:40 <louipc> i guess you can price in gold ounce if you really want
23:59:10 <louipc> but theres not enough trading volume to give an accurate picture..