is someone using the ledger hardware wallet?

i dont think you can have monero on the ledger wallet

they say it will be coming soon

you can use it in combination with the monero wallet

those hardware wallet are a waste anyway

* those hardware wallets are a waste anyway, dont even know why i bought one

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<styxx[m] "those hardware wallet are a wast"> Why do you think so

<styxx[m] "those hardware wallet are a wast"> are you saying just ledger or all of them are a waste?

Ledger specifically

I got a blue

Should've kept the crypto

Its finicky. Just use mobile wallets and a paper wallet bank

You know what's better than carrying any amount of money in your pocket? Carrying it in your head.

you can't make a backup of your head

a backup of your brain would be in written form...

might as well make it digital to begin with

I meant mnemonic

Just remember the seed

<sir_poppins[m]> they say it will be coming soon <= Link?

the nice thing with a Ledger / Trezor is that you can actually access your wallet, and spend from it, without exposing your private keys to a device exposed to malware

remembering a seed is nice, but you need to a) enter it into *some computer* to generate the address so you can send funds to it, and b) if you want to spend from it, you also need to "expose" it on a computer ...

<dEBRUYNE "<sir_poppins[m]> they say it wil"> ledger.com/supported-crypto-assets

You can use it with the GUI, yes

Not in Ledger Live as far as I can see

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<mmxxx[m] "are you saying just ledger or al"> im only familiar with ledger - its unnecessary because you can just use a paper wallet instead

> <@mmxxx:matrix.org> are you saying just ledger or all of them are a waste?

* im only familiar with ledger but others are the same probably - its unnecessary because you can just use a paper wallet instead

paper wallet can't replace a hardware wallet, the latter allows you to spend without revealing the private keys to the online computer.

ndorf you can sign transactions on an offline computer and only expose public view key to an online computer

true, and i personally use a second computer, not a hardware wallet. but a hardware wallet is cheaper than a second computer :)

Unless you already have old junk computer laying around

unless you're sick in the head like me and have around 12 old thinkpads lying around ;)

Nope, only 3 computers and 2 laptops here

wish i could throw away these laptops without working fans

but... i could buy a new fan...

though personally i don't bother actually airgapping the "secure" computer, just don't run anything else or allow any unwanted connections.

that still leaves you vulnerable to malicious updates

updates of what? the OS?

is there any guide on how to create transactions for signing and then sign them on an airgapped computer?

Yes, OS updates

assuming there is any need to update the OS in the first place, how is the risk greater than an airgapped machine that receives the same update from a USB disk or whatever?

wallet updates are hopefully can be checked with hashes/PGP signatures

OS updates are definitely checked with PGP signatures

airgapped machine can't leak private keys

that is of course true. i'm just confident enough that this machine won't leave my private keys

leak*

actually, an airgapped machine could still leak the private keys by encoding them into tx_extra or something, no?

it depends on where tx_extra is generated

I think it's generated before signing?

But that's a valid vector of attack. If compromised airgapped machine can leak even 1 bit per tx, it can eventually leak everything

It's generated by both. First by the hot wallet, then the entire tx is regenerated by the cold wallet.

yeah but how would you ever notice? it's usually random and not displayed before confirming the tx?

The hot wallet can't really re-check hte cold wallet used the same extra, since it's deemed pwned.

But even then, malware could use something else, like leak bits via other bits like keys. Though not 32 bytes at a time probably.

Still, checking extra is identical modulo tx key is maybe a good idea...

so is there a guide somewhere how to setup view-only wallet + airgapped wallet for signing?

i believe so

i can't find it now, but i thought i'd seen that on getmonero.org before

Search monero.stackexchange.com, it's got one.

Hello, I was wondering if I can receive some assistance with a wallet issue that I have?  Thanks

MindDrips: ask away.. someone will get to you

Well it’s a classic case of not being able to access my wallet. I don’t have the seed phrase but I do have the .key files. The password I’m using is not accepted, which then prompted me to try every single password that I use across all databases and devices. I seem to have “A” private spend key but I’m not completely sure if it’s

related to the wallet or not. The time stamp matches the creation date of the wallet so I’m assuming its indeed related to the wallet that I can’t seem to access. Thanks for your help!

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Well, thanks

I dont feel so good bros

How are you

So the xmrig will not tell me when I've successfully been awarded. It will just go to my account

<mycorrhizae[m] "So the xmrig will not tell me wh"> it depends on the mining pool - your statistics should show up on their homepage