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styxx[m]
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angrymonkeyboi[m
again?
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angrymonkeyboi[m
Nope, news from two weeks ago
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shabash0
hi my monero client is stuck on 46 blocks remaining
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nioc
very rarely that has happened to me
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nioc
I exited and restarted
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nioc
did you check that you have the correct target?
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nioc
from a block explorer
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pav_
Hello everyone, I invite you to mine with us: \_DO OK MONERO MINING\_WebUI: xmr.dook.xyz Pool: dook.xyz:4242
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zoimxdgflwy
Why are you here? For the tech? Then you should be off at Zcash instead of trying to con newbies into a coin that doesn't work. For the money? If you put your money in BTC or ETH you would have been better off. For the magical crypto friends? Monero leadership laughs from losers like that. Find yourself more healthy realationships that don't laugh at you when they steal your money.
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tmsufzhlf
Why are you here? For the tech? Then you should be off at Zcash instead of trying to con newbies into a coin that doesn't work. For the money? If you put your money in BTC or ETH you would have been better off. For the magical crypto friends? Monero leadership laughs from losers like that. Find yourself more healthy realationships that don't laugh at you when they steal your money.
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hv-bridge
<ADX> Dafuc is with this spam
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mmxxx[m]
Wownero weirdos
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ErCiccione[m]
Why didn't we close the possibility for tor users to write on freenode unless voiced like it was proposed time ago? This spam has been ongoing for months.
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charolastra
afaik they aren't tor users
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ErCiccione[m]
then that's probably the reason :P
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Inge-
It is funny this talk about the ledger that must be kept around. As if any ledgers in traditional finance ever truly disappears
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DubstepCraig
Is it possible to create disposable addresses using the monero wallet rpc?
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DubstepCraig
Whenever I've googled it, it's come up with math problems that I don't understand.
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Quotes
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ndorf
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DubstepCraig
I think I worded that wrong sorry, I'm trying to create stealth addresses
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DubstepCraig
Is this the same thing?
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ndorf
ah, sorry. stealth addresses are something that's created under the hood when you make a transaction. you don't create them manually
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DubstepCraig
Oh I see
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DubstepCraig
How about deleting addresses once you've received the payment?
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DubstepCraig
Deleting as in, from the wallet.
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DubstepCraig
I don't see any RPC function for that.
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ndorf
there's no way to delete them, not sure why you'd want to do that?
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DubstepCraig
Because wouldn't you be storing proof of transaction on the PC?
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DubstepCraig
Which seems unnecessary to me.
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sethsimmons
You're always able to prove transactions from the seed/private keys.
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ndorf
they're deterministic, so deleting them wouldn't help with that. anyone with access to the seed (store on yuour PC) can recreate them
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sethsimmons
Doesn't matter what you store or not store on the PC.
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DubstepCraig
Interesting
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DubstepCraig
What's currently the most trusted site for buying monero for though who don't have the capacity to mine it?
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DubstepCraig
those*
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sethsimmons
Depends on your threat model, but I'd recommend avoiding KYC and use something like LocalMonero.co
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DubstepCraig
KYC?
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sethsimmons
Or if you have BTC already and want to trade for Monero, maybe Bisq
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DubstepCraig
yeah I have BTC
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sethsimmons
"Know Your Customer", it's where you have to give up all of your personally identifying information to the exchange.
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DubstepCraig
Would that be better in terms of fees?
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DubstepCraig
Gotcha
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ndorf
best fees are probably Kraken, that requires KYC though
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sethsimmons
Generally no.
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sethsimmons
You get a "discount" to give up all of your PII and use a centralized exchange.
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sethsimmons
Not worth it IMO, but Kraken has been good for me in the past if you're ok with that.
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ndorf
or, if you're not in the US, then Binance. KYC may or may not be required depending on volume, weather, etc
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DubstepCraig
I have a binance account but they don't entertain Monero
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sethsimmons
Binance US?
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sethsimmons
They do not.
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DubstepCraig
UK
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sethsimmons
Hmm, thought it was just restricted in US
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mmxxx[m]
kek
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mmxxx[m]
UK is US jr with the fuckery
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DubstepCraig
lol
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sethsimmons
If you have Bitcoin I'd highly recommend Bisq.
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DubstepCraig
yeah cool
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sethsimmons
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mmxxx[m]
does bisq have any competition?
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sethsimmons
Not for BTC<>XMR
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sethsimmons
Aren't many truly p2p exchanges.
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ndorf
atomic swaps soon
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sethsimmons
Hell yes.
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DubstepCraig
atomic swaps?
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mmxxx[m]
<ndorf "atomic swaps soon"> soon TM?
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ndorf
Real Soon Now (tm)
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ndorf
DubstepCraig: atomic swaps are a work-in-progress that will allow you to exchange XMR<->BTC with anyone directly in a trustless fashion
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WhiteNoise[m]
Hi, is it sufficient to gave any given wallet in order to receive monero?
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WhiteNoise[m]
* Hi, is it sufficient to have any given wallet in order to receive monero?
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sethsimmons
Can you rephrase the question?
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sethsimmons
Not sure what is meant.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Okay so say I have a edge wallet
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WhiteNoise[m]
Is it possible to send/receive monero
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WhiteNoise[m]
?
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sethsimmons
If Edge supports Monero, sure (not sure if it does or not).
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sethsimmons
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WhiteNoise[m]
> If Edge supports Monero, sure (not sure if it does or not).
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WhiteNoise[m]
It does support a number including monero
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sethsimmons
If you knew it does I don't really understand the original question then.
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sethsimmons
What are you trying to accomplish or figure out?
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WhiteNoise[m]
Im knew to crypto....so wanted to make sure I didnt need to download a specific monero aop
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WhiteNoise[m]
* Im knew to crypto....so wanted to make sure I didnt need to download a specific monero app
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sethsimmons
If the wallet you likes supports it, then I assume it would work. But you can also use any of the recommended wallets like the "official" GUI or CLI wallet, Feather wallet, Cake Wallet (iOS/Android), or Monerujo (Android).
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WhiteNoise[m]
The privacy features of monero...will they apply if using an app other than official ones?
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WhiteNoise[m]
I had problems signing up for /via Monero app
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moneromooo
If you can get an address that's 93 characters long, only digits and letters, and starts with a 4, it's pretty likely you can receive monero there.
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moneromooo
There are other address types, but this is the most common atm.
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moneromooo
Privacy... that's a bit more complicated. Theoretically, it applies to any monero code, but you can do damn stupid stuff that breaks privacy.
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moneromooo
For example, some idiot could make rings that always include inputs 0 through 9, then yours. It'd then be blindingly obvious which input is the real one.
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kesha[m]
Hello guys
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moneromooo
Now that sounds stupid, but someone somewhere actually did a similar thing, so...
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moneromooo
But short of someone writing their own low level code and doing something stupid like this, privacy applies to all monero wallets.
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moneromooo
(stupid or malicious)
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WhiteNoise[m]
> If you can get an address that's 93 characters long, only digits and letters, and starts with a 4, it's pretty likely you can receive monero there.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Yeap ππ»
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moneromooo
And of course it's cryptocurrency so there's no shortage of assholes trying to get your money or lie to you about whatever, so some wallets will actually steal your money. I believe there's a list of known ones on reddit somewhere.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Trying to not get scammed π
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moneromooo
Freewallet is one name I remember. Don't use that.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Got a link for the reddit list?
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moneromooo
And anything called mymonero that's not mymonero.com. Lots of lookalikes.
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moneromooo
No.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Yeah I've noticed the mymonero...I follow links from official/reputable sites
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WhiteNoise[m]
Would you say that wallets found on app stores are generally safe?
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endogenic
no
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ndorf
no
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WhiteNoise[m]
π¬
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WhiteNoise[m]
Still a chance of getting hood winked?
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ndorf
especially not from google's app store
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WhiteNoise[m]
<ndorf "especially not from google's app"> Why do you say that?
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endogenic
WhiteNoise[m]: if you deposit 1 xmr to this address i will tell you whatever you want
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ndorf
google play for sure has fake/scam wallet apps. it takes longer to take them down than it stays down for
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WhiteNoise[m]
What about fdroid?
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endogenic
it's better to find a reputable group first and then find the download link that way
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WhiteNoise[m]
I've looked up cake walk wallet ...search brings up a wallet with 10k+ downloads
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ndorf
i wouldn't install anything from any app store unless you followed an authenticated link directly from the developer
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endogenic
cake walk lol
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WhiteNoise[m]
Cake wallet
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WhiteNoise[m]
Oops
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WhiteNoise[m]
π
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endogenic
not the first time i've seen that
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moneromooo
Cake wallet is good AFAIK. Assuming no lookalike. Also Feather and monerujo.
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WhiteNoise[m]
Monerujo im fine with..ive eard of it
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ndorf
monerujo has their own custom fdroid repository
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WhiteNoise[m]
I had coinbase + blockchain but I dont like then...they moving like side show bob
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WhiteNoise[m]
* I had coinbase + blockchain but I dont like them...they moving like side show bob
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ndorf
coinbase doesn't support monero
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WhiteNoise[m]
Yeah its naff wallet anyway
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modul8[m]
exchanges should provide a list of reputable wallets for all coins. but then that would be against their interest..maybe localmo could do it for monero
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angrymonkeyboi[m
If I ran an exchange, I wouldn't do that. It would open them up to massive and unnecessary liability. If the wallet maker steals coins, people can sue the exchange for recommending their customers use it