hello

i did a small loop echo -e "test1\nY\n\n1\nN" | ./monero-wallet-cli but in the end wallet stops and cannot continue to take other input like "transfer address1 amount1"

Because it's not supposed to be used like that. Use monero-wallet-rpc, this is very fragile since it'll break if the wallet gets another prompt or the like.

yes but rpc is more complicated for me at least

and is just one more command!

i cant understand why stops there!

dortone: you could try monero-wallet-cli --command 'transfer ...'. but as mooo says, RPC is better

wallet-cli --wallet-file test --config-file config

Failed to parse arguments: unrecognised option '--mnemonic-language'

i did --mnemonic-language=1

on config file

Remove the --

thnx

command=transfer address1 amount1 "Error: Unknown command 'transfer"

my node has been stuck at ~5 hours behind most of the day. Running the ban list. Anything I can do?

quit question , after updating to v 17.1.8 in my logs i find "Unable to send transaction(s), no available connections", someone an idea what's wrong?

ndorf how to put in 1 line 30 address monero-wallet-cli --command 'transfer ...'.

why it happens?

my monerod crashes after 2-3 minute later

Unrelated.

This is an attempt at a handshake with a peer, and it timed out before it got a reply.

I don't suppose you have a stack trace for the crash ?

sorry but what's stack trace idk

nvm

If you're just going through everyhting that says "error" in it because you think it's borked, don't unless it's displayed at the default settings.

Then how i will find reason of crash monerod

Which OS ?

Windows

Dunno then.

Damn I tried at least 5 times. I give up

Wait for .9, there'll be at least one crash fix in it.

.9?

Monero 0.17.1.9

Soon. In fact, already there if you build your own.

Oh well, then i will give one more chance when it released

<moneromooo "Soon. In fact, already there if "> i guess building needs much sources, so i don't have powerful device

Adamas[m]: can you post the output of "status"

k3LV1n: you can ignore it if you don’t have any issues, it can show up on startup

Hello

good day to you sir

welcome to the club

jess is marx a bit too enthusiastic today? The guy just said Hello

he said it in a mocking tone

probably same client as some other less benign post

yeah what hyc said

hello fluffypony :)

sup :)

wow its him

or fluffypony outsourced his irc chatter to india

.9 is believed to be effective against all present attacks, right? so i will run without ban lists for the time being, right?

Yes, currently it works fine without any ban list.

oh i see the binaries aren't ready. i'll check back in a few hours

it is efficient against _present_ attacks

we'll see what tomorrow brings

yo, check out what I made: xmrcannon.net

are you spam

my programming instructs me to respond "no"

ok

lza_menace: What does it doooo?

sech1: that was fuk though

Matt[m]2: you send XMR and a node comes online

So, I pay you to run a node? 🤔 Whats the return on investment? (Sorry for asking n00b questions)

It's not an investment

You just pay for a service, right?

lza_menace: looks cool :D

thanks! going to bed, hope my inputs were sanitized well enough!

what reasons are there to increase the number of outgoing connections?

supus: do you mean why are they increasing? or what can you do to increase them?

<lza_menace> yo, check out what I made: xmrcannon.net <-- successfully tested, very cool!

lza_menace: good job!

hello

lza_menace: cool stuff! Though I think you should put the operational details (shown in the funding page) on the homepage, or at least a dedicated info page

hm.. so with 3 cpu cores and network block storage and 4GB RAM - is that reasonable for allowing RPC publicly, or better to just run as a public node without RPC?

lza_menace: is xmrcannon providing rpc or just public nodes?

seems both

and if providing rpc then there is a flag that should also be set, in order to get listed in some node directory so e.g. monerujo will find it?

--public-node in command line, works only with restricted RPC

Try RPC to moonymcmoonface.node.xmrcannon.net:18081

Binaries for new version 0.17.1.9 are now available on getmonero.org

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

selsta: I mean why would someone increase out_peers

hello

is possible to multiple send from config file like command=transfer address1 amount1

i have .9 running now.

what is to stop an attacker from basic spam attacks. for instance asking for the same parts of the blockchain over and over again. if he (or she) has the bandwidth to receive the response then how can that be stopped?

it's as though you'd need an AI algorithm to work out when a node was intentionally wasting resources

you could implement some reasonable parameters for rate limiting

peer node in this case

but then you just deploy a botnet-style ddos, perhaps.

PM spam, fun

What kind of PMs are you receiving?

hello

I got PM spam too

'Hello how are you doing today?'

from tra_ce_ma_yer_[m]

remove _

that nickname wasn't active in any monero channels before

I get messages from 'tracemayer'

* tracemayer[m]

maybe its a bot that will send me a nice virus link

asking me if I am a bitcoin investor. Asked for his private key to verify that he is indeed trace mayer 'early bitcoin and tech investor'

:)

with 0.17.9 do we still need "--enable-dns-blocklist --ban-list block.txt" ?

*0.17.1.9

No, not right now

Maybe soon when attacker changes his methods

leave monero alone

doesn't seem to hurt...been running OK, but guess I need to edit my service file

If you just want to run monero as a user, always use the block list unless you want to protect against the list being compromised. If you want to help spot new silliness, don't.

currently 630MB for monerod on ani5 nuc, let's see how high we get!

private nodes not seeding still running fine with .7 + blocklist

I did receive the same PM spam a couple days ago

same, just ignore

hi

how many people got pm spam from tracemayer[m]?

pretty sure I'm mode +R

no reason not to be

i'm only here to love on fluffypony

<3

wub wub I'm not important only registered nicks

is both dns blocklist and ban list required?

No, or they'd be default.

i mean is the dns blocklist enough?

It's the same as selsta's list with some delay.

ok thanks

lza_menace: Mind posting it on Reddit?

"Monero might be the only one [except bitcoin] that isn't a shitcoin" -Matt Odell, Whatbitcoindid ep 294, 54 minutes

nice little privacy talk, but he doesn't think it is a good SOV over time

Why not?

he believes that it, line most everyrhing else, trebds to zero over time, compared to btc

i'm sending to multiple address like transfer address1 amount1 but there is an error ""sv/gamma are too large""

dortone are you trying with more than 15 destinations? There can only be 16 max and 1 is needed for the change back to you

yes!

if i change it on config ?

it's a protocol thing, if you change it in the code, everyone else will still think your transaction is not valid

are you using "transfer_split"?

no just transfer

look at transfer_split. It's the same, but send several transactions if needed

ok thnx

whereis is this command?

i dont c on help all

binaryFate: transfer_split is only for txs that are larger than the block size limiter, no?

and it got deprecated and rolled into transfer iirc

did it?

yep

Typical use is when you have too many inputs to stick in a single transaction (as per limit). Maybe does not work with too many output though, I'm confused now

i was wondering about that transfer_split also.

transfer is aliased to transfer_split

Still using it everywhere so I can say it's not deprecated for sure

the old transfer doesn't exist any longer

oh ok, deprecated in that direction. Makes sense

ahh ok

:D

dortone please test and tell us

what to do?

hey fluffypony wen xmr pump we are tired of under 200$

lol

either on command line or RPC, you just replace "transfer" word with "transfer_split"

ok

yeah fluffypony, can you make an announcement of an upcoming announcement or something?

hidden command? hmm

Mochi101 the incomming announcement is 0.002

marx, ???

lol

Holy mackerel :D

jess That's what I call a false positive

Error: Unknown command 'transfer_split', try 'help'

that was a bit violent

rpc is complicated

You just kicking random well knowns now marx?

who delete the command!

lol

his only wrongdoing was advertising v0.17.1.9 in #monero-community :D

one sec

dortone: sorry doesn't exist in CLI command. Probably because as said above transfer does transfer_split automatically now

Mochi101 ircop can kick anybody :D

you'll probably have to break down your number of destinations by 15 max

and their bots too :(

but this is not good to have max 15dest

this must change

is very serius issue

lol

if all u want monero to be adapt from more and more people

create an issue on github and explain why you think it's serious?

i thought serious issue is only monero current price

p3rL: not really

Monero works whether the price is $1 or $100

nioc's back, where you are marx!

uh oh

I was spamming that the 0.17.1.9 release was out :D

Bad boy nioc

selsta 2 more potentially bad IPs for consideration: 195.201.41.38 & 116.203.80.35 paste.debian.net/1180205

Oh, as in multiple channels ?

moneromooo: yes

C&P

marx should hopefully not do that again

:p

monerouser1144: thanks

jess: np, I will be more creative next time :)

throw in some base64 urandom

moneromooo: could you also PR 7260 against release branch? I think multiple people want this

.barolo

done

thanks

welcome back nioc

thx brother

sup folkz

If someone could debrief me on the current xmr-fud in regards to ciphertrace and the mem corruption DoS bugs going on right now I would greatly appreciate it

furthermore, if anybody has any opinions on Amir Taaki and his seeming endorsements of Halo-like tools (zcash related zkproof project). I am thirsty for a deep intellectual conversation about the markets today and the eery nature of central banks getting involved in stablecoin developments. Open to all opinins

Where did you see memory corruption ?

I'm kinda assuming you just use the word without an idea what you mean, but just in case, I'm interested :)

I've heard there was a DoS against this Java component which causes the garbage collector or some component within to keep expanding in memory beyond the bounds of the programs execution pointer causing a crash.

There's corruption alright, but corruption of the facts along the way :D

I imagined as much

In a nutshell:

What's the legitimate bug that is occurring?

I am not big on the internals of XMR. I am aware of the solid development team and community of free-thinkers here however

Someone is crafting the packet that will use up the most memory possible when parsed, and that causes the system to kill the process if it does not have enough memory for it.

What library is parsing this request?

That does not cause corruption, there's no Java involved, no garbage collector.

Right.

Not trying to FUD here. Just trying to clarify

And no stack overflow or jumping to the wrong place AFAIK (which seems to be what you'd mean with "beyond the bounds of the programs execution pointer" if you meant what you said).

No triggering of structured exception handlers?

the os just kills it due to memory requests

Regarding last week's discussion about running resilient nodes, under Linux systemd offers some interesting tools (most are used by the bitcoind service github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/contrib/init/bitcoind.service ). At least until there is a full AppArmor / SELinux profile for monerod ...

Someone contributed an apparmor setup some time ago IORC.

Hmm

Is apparmor like a system that will perform 'hooking' when a request to cancel the service is made?

and prevent it from ending the miner?

AppArmor would help if there is an exploit in monerod that can be used by a remote attacker.

Right I'll look into it.

Since most people who run monerod don't have the sysadmin skills to secure it properly.

So this is where the centralization aspect is coming in I guess?

We're relying on AppArmor in a fashion that is directly aggregating a centralized list of bad-nodes? I remember there being a ban list of some kind.

<monerouser1144 "Regarding last week's discussion"> I integrated the majority of those here: sethsimmons.me/guides/run-a-monero-…ode/#install-monerod-systemd-script

Thank you sethsimmons.

I'd like to direct this next thing to wherever its most appropriate

Would just like to know if anybody has any thoughts on Nym Technologies, and the work with the newer zk-proof mixnets that wish to deal with network-level privacy.

I am not really concerned with price action or any of that nonsense, but would like to see a continued cypherpunk-style vision of anonymity and privacy in wealth. Obviously XMR has a solid history of that. However, I do see some interesting things on the horizon and would like to stay up to date with any of the intelligent folks here in regards to

ZK-STARKS and other novel technologies

Might also toss out there that this thing looks pretty sick. gnunet.org/en/index.html

sethsimmons thx, looks good (much better than the first version 2 weeks ago). One question about rpc port, isn't the default 18081 (instead of 18089)?

It is.

Yes, I'm binding public RPC to 18089 to differentiate, thats sort of standard operation.

18081 still gets bound by dfault as unrestricted to localhost

Maybe you should add some clarifying comments about 18089 vs 18081 in the config file.

sethsimmons I meant to add a few comments about 18081 vs 18089 and localhost vs public network interface.

Personally I connect to my monerod node over ssh tunnel to localhost.

I asked again a few days ago, can you suggest some resources (e.g. sub-reddits, forums, twitter, etc) that post good material on alt-coins? (with a critical eye, not just shills). Since I missed the boat of this bull-run, I'd like to stay informed about coin development, technologies etc.

what exactly is the current recommended block list configuration? DNS + block_tor_new.txt? something else?

My monerod service won't start up after updating to .9

monerofanboy: r/xmrtrader on saturdays, there is an altcoin thread

we're all dreaming, we're all dreaming, we could die chasing this feeling.....

<Yonatan[m] "My monerod service won't start u"> What error are you getting in monerod.log or `journalctl -xe`?

<monerouser1144 "sethsimmons I meant to add a few"> I'll add a short note on that and change the comment on the RPC port line.

Done, let me knpw if you think it should be clarified further monerouser1144:

thanks for escalating the MacOS signing issue on Github, selsta

what's the best way to maintain anonymity while participating in this community? I didn't want to sign into github myself...

you can access github via tor

or a VPN

hrm 25 minute block

i got a bunch of no blocks in 20 minutes errors last night and getting them again just now

me too

oh weird the time is way off

oh wait nvm that part of the log is just old

Updated my nodes. You can start working on v0.17.1.10 now. Think of it this way - the sooner you get it done, the sooner you can start working on v0.17.1.11

lol, is that an iteration of that BTC troll?

"Oh no, someone is working to make our software better, that's no good!"

vekin: we had a few periods of long block times when ASIC's where thrown off the network

is there some place the monero donation address is available signed with one of the keys in the repo?

README.md

finally they got it. Took a bit.

it's also in the code, so part of reproducible builds and signed with my key and others: github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…src/simplewallet/simplewallet.h#L56

can anyone explain why BULLETPROOF_MAX_OUTPUTS is 16 and not anything else

duh, thanks guys

anyone have the interest, bandwidth and disk space (200gb) to host a torrent of pinodexmr

new version is nice. got 91 incoming connections!

Hello, do you believe that governments will push laws for crypto financial regulations like identifying user addresses from to personal information that will get from exchanges? How will this affect the whole crypto sphere? atm there is a bounty on monero of 1m dollars, maybe the law knows that after the crypto regulations the people will come to monero and tries to be a step ahead

how long does it take to get rewards for mining?

On average... the network hash rate times 2 minutes divided by your hash rate.

Huge variance though.

<pink_zebra[m] "Hello, do you believe that gover"> get on decentralized exchanges

you can get xmr on bisq

yes i believe this can work

w8, do decentralized exchanges allow you to convert fiat to crypto?

<moneromooo "On average... the network hash r"> alright

ty

pink_zebra[m]: the bounty and the increased adoption in darknet markets indicate that MOnero does what it says on the tin - provides the best private peer 2 peer digital money available. Anything that makes users desire or need privacy, will push them towards Monero.

exactly, thats why it grew on value for me and is my favourite coin

the leading cypherpunks are working on the cryptography as well

and atomic swaps with btc (and also probably ETH and other chains) are under way

<pink_zebra[m] "w8, do decentralized exchanges a"> yes you can sell your crypto for fiat

whats your ETA for "under way"?

or vice versa

<zed19[m] "yes you can sell your crypto for"> Im checking it out now, this is very good, this is a very big thing for crypto and the fees are lower than other big exchanges

some say that the fees on the bisq.network are too high... find out for yourself

orly_owl: you can ask in #monero-swap

now with the bsq-token the fees should be lower

nice re-affirmation of an older tweet: twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/1347088215941861377 - "Monero is a very good privacy complement to Bitcoin, they are both good money." -Nick Szabo

[P2P8] ERROR net contrib/epee/include/net/abstract_tcp_server2.inl:1519 Failed to resolve ::ffff:185.16.52.98

what does it mean

<pikachu[m] "[P2P8] ERROR net contrib/epee/in"> That’s not a valid IP address.

Probably a malicious peer being ignored

my monerod closes after a couple minute later and i guess there's no error

Inge-: ty

<moneromooo "Wait for .9, there'll be at leas"> didn't work

What’s your error?

Only that IP address one, or anything else? Running a a service or just spawned with ./monerod?

What’s the exact command used?

What OS?