01:26:19 <dortone> hello
01:28:11 <dortone> i did a small loop  echo -e "test1\nY\n\n1\nN" | ./monero-wallet-cli but in the end wallet stops and cannot continue to take other input like "transfer address1 amount1"
01:31:58 <moneromooo> Because it's not supposed to be used like that. Use monero-wallet-rpc, this is very fragile since it'll break if the wallet gets another prompt or the like.
01:33:06 <dortone> yes but rpc is more complicated for me at least
01:33:20 <dortone> and is just one more command!
01:33:47 <dortone> i cant understand why stops there!
01:49:00 <ndorf> dortone: you could try monero-wallet-cli --command 'transfer ...'. but as mooo says, RPC is better
02:02:20 <dortone> wallet-cli --wallet-file test --config-file config
02:02:22 <dortone> Failed to parse arguments: unrecognised option '--mnemonic-language'
02:02:38 <dortone> i did --mnemonic-language=1
02:02:42 <dortone> on config file
02:09:14 <moneromooo> Remove the --
02:09:43 <dortone> thnx
02:14:36 <dortone> command=transfer address1 amount1 "Error: Unknown command 'transfer"
02:17:36 <Adamas[m]> my node has been stuck at ~5 hours behind most of the day. Running the ban list. Anything I can do?
02:19:38 <k3LV1n> quit question , after updating to v 17.1.8 in my logs i find "Unable to send transaction(s), no available connections", someone an idea what's wrong?
02:27:54 <dortone> ndorf how to put in 1 line 30 address monero-wallet-cli --command 'transfer ...'.
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03:37:47 <pikachu[m]> why it happens?
03:39:17 <pikachu[m]> my monerod crashes after 2-3 minute later
03:39:28 <moneromooo> Unrelated.
03:39:46 <moneromooo> This is an attempt at a handshake with a peer, and it timed out before it got a reply.
03:41:00 <moneromooo> I don't suppose you have a stack trace for the crash ?
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03:41:32 <pikachu[m]> sorry but what's stack trace idk
03:41:48 <moneromooo> nvm
03:42:29 <moneromooo> If you're just going through everyhting that says "error" in it because you think it's borked, don't unless it's displayed at the default settings.
03:44:06 <pikachu[m]> Then how i will find reason of crash monerod
03:44:22 <moneromooo> Which OS ?
03:44:27 <pikachu[m]> Windows
03:44:36 <moneromooo> Dunno then.
03:45:50 <pikachu[m]> Damn I tried at least 5 times. I give up
03:46:21 <moneromooo> Wait for .9, there'll be at least one crash fix in it.
03:47:05 <pikachu[m]> .9?
03:47:16 <moneromooo> Monero 0.17.1.9
03:47:32 <moneromooo> Soon. In fact, already there if you build your own.
03:48:02 <pikachu[m]> Oh well, then i will give one more chance when it released
03:48:38 <pikachu[m]> <moneromooo "Soon. In fact, already there if "> i guess building needs much sources, so i don't have powerful device
04:04:52 <selsta> Adamas[m]: can you post the output of "status"
04:05:59 <selsta> k3LV1n: you can ignore it if you don’t have any issues, it can show up on startup
08:44:49 <theskateybird> Hello
08:45:20 <zed19[m]> good day to you sir
08:45:29 <zed19[m]> welcome to the club
08:47:26 <sech1> jess is marx a bit too enthusiastic today? The guy just said Hello
08:54:17 <Inge-> he said it in a mocking tone
08:58:27 <hyc> probably same client as some other less benign post
09:14:45 <fluffypony> yeah what hyc said
09:20:41 <raecarruth> hello fluffypony :)
09:21:11 <fluffypony> sup :)
09:29:51 <thematrix5000[m]> wow its him
09:31:29 <orly_owl> or fluffypony outsourced his irc chatter to india
09:57:38 <h2017> .9 is believed to be effective against all present attacks, right? so i will run without ban lists for the time being, right?
09:57:59 <selsta> Yes, currently it works fine without any ban list.
09:58:29 <h2017> oh i see the binaries aren't ready. i'll check back in a few hours
09:58:32 <sech1> it is efficient against _present_ attacks
09:58:38 <sech1> we'll see what tomorrow brings
10:01:55 <lza_menace> yo, check out what I made: https://xmrcannon.net/
10:02:32 <orly_owl> are you spam
10:03:04 <lza_menace> my programming instructs me to respond "no"
10:04:02 <orly_owl> ok
10:06:47 <Matt[m]2> lza_menace: What does it doooo?
10:08:05 <jess> sech1: that was fuk though
10:10:28 <lza_menace> Matt[m]2: you send XMR and a node comes online
10:11:33 <Matt[m]2> So, I pay you to run a node? 🤔 Whats the return on investment? (Sorry for asking n00b questions)
10:12:19 <sech1> It's not an investment
10:12:29 <sech1> You just pay for a service, right?
10:15:01 <selsta> lza_menace: looks cool :D
10:19:36 <lza_menace> thanks! going to bed, hope my inputs were sanitized well enough!
10:52:48 <supus> what reasons are there to increase the number of outgoing connections?
10:57:46 <selsta> supus: do you mean why are they increasing? or what can you do to increase them?
10:59:43 <binaryFate> <lza_menace> yo, check out what I made: https://xmrcannon.net <-- successfully tested, very cool!
11:00:37 <SerHack> lza_menace: good job!
11:08:40 <harland> hello
11:33:32 <endor00[m]> lza_menace: cool stuff! Though I think you should put the operational details (shown in the funding page) on the homepage, or at least a dedicated info page
12:02:59 <Inge-> hm.. so with 3 cpu cores and network block storage and 4GB RAM - is that reasonable for allowing RPC publicly, or better to just run as a public node without RPC?
12:03:18 <Inge-> lza_menace: is xmrcannon providing rpc or just public nodes?
12:03:53 <selsta> seems both
12:04:38 <Inge-> and if providing rpc then there is a flag that should also be set, in order to get listed in some node directory so e.g. monerujo will find it?
12:07:09 <sech1> --public-node in command line, works only with restricted RPC
12:10:02 <binaryFate> Try RPC to http://moonymcmoonface.node.xmrcannon.net:18081
12:47:56 <binaryFate> Binaries for new version 0.17.1.9 are now available on getmonero.org
12:50:11 <orly_owl> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
13:08:11 <supus> selsta: I mean why would someone increase out_peers
13:13:30 <dortone> hello
13:14:08 <dortone> is possible to multiple send from config file like command=transfer address1 amount1
13:15:05 <h2017> i have .9 running now.
13:16:17 <h2017> what is to stop an attacker from basic spam attacks. for instance asking for the same parts of the blockchain over and over again. if he (or she) has the bandwidth to receive the response then how can that be stopped?
13:17:49 <h2017> it's as though you'd need an AI algorithm to work out when a node was intentionally wasting resources
13:18:15 <Inge-> you could implement some reasonable parameters for rate limiting
13:18:16 <h2017> peer node in this case
13:18:37 <Inge-> but then you just deploy a botnet-style ddos, perhaps.
13:53:38 <orly_owl> PM spam, fun
13:54:28 <dEBRUYNE> What kind of PMs are you receiving?
13:54:39 <jess> hello
13:58:28 <sech1> I got PM spam too
13:58:35 <orly_owl> 'Hello how are you doing today?'
13:58:46 <sech1> https://paste.debian.net/1180189/
13:58:52 <orly_owl> from tra_ce_ma_yer_[m]
13:58:54 <orly_owl> remove _
13:59:11 <sech1> that nickname wasn't active in any monero channels before
13:59:34 <supus> I get messages from 'tracemayer'
13:59:44 <supus> * tracemayer[m]
13:59:46 <orly_owl> maybe its a bot that will send me a nice virus link
14:00:21 <supus> asking me if I am a bitcoin investor. Asked for his private key to verify that he is indeed trace mayer 'early bitcoin and tech investor'
14:00:30 <orly_owl> :)
14:05:29 <kloinka> with 0.17.9 do we still need "--enable-dns-blocklist --ban-list block.txt" ?
14:06:27 <kloinka> *0.17.1.9
14:06:41 <sech1> No, not right now
14:07:04 <sech1> Maybe soon when attacker changes his methods
14:07:18 <orly_owl> leave monero alone
14:08:21 <kloinka> doesn't seem to hurt...been running OK, but guess I need to edit my service file
14:13:29 <moneromooo> If you just want to run monero as a user, always use the block list unless you want to protect against the list being compromised. If you want to help spot new silliness, don't.
14:15:38 <kloinka> currently  630MB for monerod on ani5 nuc, let's see how high we get!
14:15:41 <BoomOperator[m]> private nodes not seeding still running fine with .7 + blocklist
14:16:41 <selsta> I did receive the same PM spam a couple days ago
14:16:56 <binaryFate> same, just ignore
14:33:50 <jcpham> hi
14:34:40 <jess> how many people got pm spam from tracemayer[m]?
14:34:51 <jcpham> pretty sure I'm mode +R
14:34:56 <jcpham> no reason not to be
14:35:49 <jcpham> i'm only here to love on fluffypony
14:36:03 <fluffypony> <3
14:36:24 <jcpham> wub wub I'm not important only registered nicks
14:40:35 <camalonso> is both dns blocklist and ban list required?
14:42:02 <moneromooo> No, or they'd be default.
14:42:24 <camalonso> i mean is the dns blocklist enough?
14:42:37 <moneromooo> It's the same as selsta's list with some delay.
14:43:18 <camalonso> ok thanks
15:05:22 <dEBRUYNE> lza_menace: Mind posting it on Reddit?
15:05:27 <Inge-> "Monero might be the only one [except bitcoin] that isn't a shitcoin"  -Matt Odell, Whatbitcoindid ep 294, 54 minutes
15:06:29 <Inge-> nice little privacy talk, but he doesn't think it is a good SOV over time
15:09:25 <dEBRUYNE> Why not?
15:14:51 <Inge-> he believes that it, line most everyrhing else, trebds to zero over time, compared to btc
15:19:53 <dortone> i'm sending to multiple address like transfer address1 amount1 but there is an error ""sv/gamma are too large""
15:21:41 <binaryFate> dortone are you trying with more than 15 destinations? There can only be 16 max and 1 is needed for the change back to you
15:21:59 <dortone> yes!
15:22:34 <dortone> if i change it on config ?
15:23:09 <binaryFate> it's a protocol thing, if you change it in the code, everyone else will still think your transaction is not valid
15:23:25 <binaryFate> are you using "transfer_split"?
15:23:33 <dortone> no just transfer
15:23:50 <binaryFate> look at transfer_split. It's the same, but send several transactions if needed
15:24:03 <dortone> ok thnx
15:25:31 <dortone> whereis is this command?
15:25:38 <dortone> i dont c on help all
15:26:31 <fluffypony> binaryFate: transfer_split is only for txs that are larger than the block size limiter, no?
15:26:57 <fluffypony> and it got deprecated and rolled into transfer iirc
15:27:17 <Mochi101> did it?
15:27:42 <fluffypony> yep
15:27:49 <binaryFate> Typical use is when you have too many inputs to stick in a single transaction (as per limit). Maybe does not work with too many output though, I'm confused now
15:27:50 <fluffypony> https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11875/what-is-the-difference-between-transfer-split-and-transfer
15:28:00 <donkeydonkey[m]> i was wondering about that transfer_split also.
15:28:08 <fluffypony> transfer is aliased to transfer_split
15:28:08 <binaryFate> Still using it everywhere so I can say it's not deprecated for sure
15:28:14 <fluffypony> the old transfer doesn't exist any longer
15:28:29 <binaryFate> oh ok, deprecated in that direction. Makes sense
15:28:55 <Mochi101> ahh ok
15:28:56 <Mochi101> :D
15:29:03 <binaryFate> dortone please test and tell us
15:29:14 <dortone> what to do?
15:29:15 <p3rL> hey fluffypony wen xmr pump we are tired of under 200$
15:29:23 <fluffypony> lol
15:29:23 <binaryFate> either on command line or RPC, you just replace "transfer" word with "transfer_split"
15:29:32 <dortone> ok
15:29:42 <Mochi101> yeah fluffypony, can you make an announcement of an upcoming announcement or something?
15:29:45 <dortone> hidden command? hmm
15:30:07 <binaryFate> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html#transfer_split
15:30:12 <p3rL> Mochi101 the incomming announcement is 0.002
15:30:48 <Mochi101> marx, ???
15:30:49 <p3rL> lol
15:31:15 <moneromooo> Holy mackerel :D
15:31:18 <sech1> jess That's what I call a false positive
15:31:21 <dortone> Error: Unknown command 'transfer_split', try 'help'
15:31:26 <jess> that was a bit violent
15:31:29 <dortone> rpc is complicated
15:31:30 <Mochi101> You just kicking random well knowns now marx?
15:31:38 <dortone> who delete the command!
15:31:41 <jess> lol
15:31:50 <sech1> his only wrongdoing was advertising v0.17.1.9 in #monero-community :D
15:31:58 <jess> one sec
15:31:58 <binaryFate> dortone: sorry doesn't exist in CLI command. Probably because as said above transfer does transfer_split automatically now
15:32:15 <p3rL> Mochi101 ircop can kick anybody :D
15:32:20 <binaryFate> you'll probably have to break down your number of destinations by 15 max
15:32:26 <p3rL> and their bots too :(
15:32:45 <dortone> but this is not good to have max 15dest
15:32:54 <dortone> this must change
15:33:07 <dortone> is very serius issue
15:33:20 <Mochi101> lol
15:33:32 <dortone> if all u want monero to be adapt from more and more people
15:33:32 <binaryFate> create an issue on github and explain why you think it's serious?
15:33:39 <p3rL> i thought serious issue is only monero current price
15:33:55 <fluffypony> p3rL: not really
15:34:03 <fluffypony> Monero works whether the price is $1 or $100
15:34:23 <moneromooo> nioc's back, where you are marx!
15:34:40 <nioc> uh oh
15:35:14 <nioc> I was spamming that the 0.17.1.9 release was out :D
15:35:28 <Mochi101> Bad boy nioc
15:35:59 <monerouser1144> selsta 2 more potentially bad IPs for consideration: 195.201.41.38 & 116.203.80.35 https://paste.debian.net/1180205/
15:36:05 <moneromooo> Oh, as in multiple channels ?
15:37:00 <nioc> moneromooo: yes
15:37:04 <nioc> C&P
15:37:06 <jess> marx should hopefully not do that again
15:37:07 <jess> :p
15:37:14 <selsta> monerouser1144: thanks
15:37:39 <nioc> jess: np, I will be more creative next time :)
15:37:52 <jess> throw in some base64 urandom
15:45:10 <selsta> moneromooo: could you also PR 7260 against release branch? I think multiple people want this
15:47:40 <nioc> .barolo
15:51:11 <moneromooo> done
15:58:09 <nicolas_> thanks
16:29:09 <gingeropolous> welcome back nioc
16:29:24 <nioc> thx brother
16:30:35 <glitchdigger> sup folkz
16:31:19 <glitchdigger> If someone could debrief me on the current xmr-fud in regards to ciphertrace and the mem corruption DoS bugs going on right now I would greatly appreciate it
16:32:34 <glitchdigger> furthermore, if anybody has any opinions on Amir Taaki and his seeming endorsements of Halo-like tools (zcash related zkproof project). I am thirsty for a deep intellectual conversation about the markets today and the eery nature of central banks getting involved in stablecoin developments. Open to all opinins
16:34:44 <moneromooo> Where did you see memory corruption ?
16:35:10 <moneromooo> I'm kinda assuming you just use the word without an idea what you mean, but just in case, I'm interested :)
16:36:07 <glitchdigger> I've heard there was a DoS against this Java component which causes the garbage collector or some component within to keep expanding in memory beyond the bounds of the programs execution pointer causing a crash.
16:37:15 <moneromooo> There's corruption alright, but corruption of the facts along the way :D
16:37:27 <glitchdigger> I imagined as much
16:37:31 <moneromooo> In a nutshell:
16:37:36 <glitchdigger> What's the legitimate bug that is occurring?
16:38:16 <glitchdigger> I am not big on the internals of XMR. I am aware of the solid development team and community of free-thinkers here however
16:38:28 <moneromooo> Someone is crafting the packet that will use up the most memory possible when parsed, and that causes the system to kill the process if it does not have enough memory for it.
16:38:53 <glitchdigger> What library is parsing this request?
16:39:11 <moneromooo> That does not cause corruption, there's no Java involved, no garbage collector.
16:39:27 <glitchdigger> Right.
16:39:38 <glitchdigger> Not trying to FUD here. Just trying to clarify
16:39:57 <moneromooo> And no stack overflow or jumping to the wrong place AFAIK (which seems to be what you'd mean with "beyond the bounds of the programs execution pointer" if you meant what you said).
16:40:26 <glitchdigger> No triggering of structured exception handlers?
16:42:59 <vtnerd> the os just kills it due to memory requests
16:44:08 <monerouser1144> Regarding last week's discussion about running resilient nodes, under Linux systemd offers some interesting tools (most are used by the bitcoind service https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/contrib/init/bitcoind.service ). At least until there is a full AppArmor / SELinux profile for monerod ...
16:47:53 <moneromooo> Someone contributed an apparmor setup some time ago IORC.
16:48:09 <glitchdigger> Hmm
16:48:33 <glitchdigger> Is apparmor like a system that will perform 'hooking' when a request to cancel the service is made?
16:48:46 <glitchdigger> and prevent it from ending the miner?
16:51:15 <monerouser1144> AppArmor would help if there is an exploit in monerod that can be used by a remote attacker.
16:51:55 <glitchdigger> Right I'll look into it.
16:51:56 <monerouser1144> Since most people who run monerod don't have the sysadmin skills to secure it properly.
16:52:13 <glitchdigger> So this is where the centralization aspect is coming in I guess?
16:53:08 <glitchdigger> We're relying on AppArmor in a fashion that is directly aggregating a centralized list of bad-nodes? I remember there being a ban list of some kind.
16:53:32 <sethsimmons> <monerouser1144 "Regarding last week's discussion"> I integrated the majority of those here: https://sethsimmons.me/guides/run-a-monero-node/#install-monerod-systemd-script
16:55:24 <glitchdigger> Thank you sethsimmons.
16:55:36 <glitchdigger> I'd like to direct this next thing to wherever its most appropriate
16:56:44 <glitchdigger> Would just like to know if anybody has any thoughts on Nym Technologies, and the work with the newer zk-proof mixnets that wish to deal with network-level privacy.
16:58:14 <glitchdigger> I am not really concerned with price action or any of that nonsense, but would like to see a continued cypherpunk-style vision of anonymity and privacy in wealth. Obviously XMR has a solid history of that. However, I do see some interesting things on the horizon and would like to stay up to date with any of the intelligent folks here in regards to
16:58:15 <glitchdigger> ZK-STARKS and other novel technologies
16:58:46 <glitchdigger> Might also toss out there that this thing looks pretty sick. https://gnunet.org/en/index.html
17:02:26 <monerouser1144> sethsimmons thx, looks good (much better than the first version 2 weeks ago). One question about rpc port, isn't the default 18081 (instead of 18089)?
17:03:44 <moneromooo> It is.
17:04:18 <sethsimmons> Yes, I'm binding public RPC to 18089 to differentiate, thats sort of standard operation.
17:04:28 <sethsimmons> 18081 still gets bound by dfault as unrestricted to localhost
17:14:05 <monerouser1144> Maybe you should add some clarifying comments about 18089 vs 18081 in the config file.
17:47:39 <monerouser1144> sethsimmons I meant to add a few comments about 18081 vs 18089 and localhost vs public network interface.
17:48:23 <monerouser1144> Personally I connect to my monerod node over ssh tunnel to localhost.
18:09:14 <monerouser1144> I asked again a few days ago, can you suggest some resources (e.g. sub-reddits, forums, twitter, etc) that post good material on alt-coins? (with a critical eye, not just shills). Since I missed the boat of this bull-run, I'd like to stay informed about coin development, technologies etc.
18:19:07 <ndorf> what exactly is the current recommended block list configuration? DNS + block_tor_new.txt? something else?
18:19:52 <Yonatan[m]> My monerod service won't start up after updating to .9
18:19:55 <ndorf> monerofanboy: r/xmrtrader on saturdays, there is an altcoin thread
18:37:55 <gingeropolous> we're all dreaming, we're all dreaming, we could die chasing this feeling.....
18:45:37 <sethsimmons> <Yonatan[m] "My monerod service won't start u"> What error are you getting in monerod.log or `journalctl -xe`?
18:49:10 <sethsimmons> <monerouser1144 "sethsimmons I meant to add a few"> I'll add a short note on that and change the comment on the RPC port line.
18:57:08 <sethsimmons> Done, let me knpw if you think it should be clarified further monerouser1144:
19:09:14 <Mooner> thanks for escalating the MacOS signing issue on Github, selsta
19:10:00 <Mooner> what's the best way to maintain anonymity while participating in this community? I didn't want to sign into github myself...
19:28:00 <ndorf> you can access github via tor
19:28:15 <ndorf> or a VPN
19:35:02 <gingeropolous> hrm 25 minute block
19:35:32 <vekin> i got a bunch of no blocks in 20 minutes errors last night and getting them again just now
19:55:14 <donkeydonkey[m]> me too
19:57:32 <vekin> oh weird the time is way off
19:57:44 <vekin> oh wait nvm that part of the log is just old
20:22:15 <lucaluca5> Updated my nodes. You can start working on v0.17.1.10 now. Think of it this way - the sooner you get it done, the sooner you can start working on v0.17.1.11
20:22:42 <ndorf> lol, is that an iteration of that BTC troll?
20:26:03 <endor00[m]> "Oh no, someone is working to make our software better, that's no good!"
20:32:52 <Inge-> vekin: we had a few periods of long block times when ASIC's where thrown off the network
21:15:01 <ndorf> is there some place the monero donation address is available signed with one of the keys in the repo?
21:17:59 <moneromooo> README.md
21:20:06 <BoomOperator[m]> finally they got it. Took a bit.
21:21:02 <binaryFate> it's also in the code, so part of reproducible builds and signed with my key and others: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/431ec528bc7949f5eed05e58b7f44f69bab7062f/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.h#L56
21:42:34 <dortone> can anyone explain why BULLETPROOF_MAX_OUTPUTS is 16 and not anything else
21:42:35 <ndorf> duh, thanks guys
22:26:31 <mnt_grrrl> anyone have the interest, bandwidth and disk space (200gb) to host a torrent of pinodexmr
22:39:30 <donkeydonkey[m]> new version is nice. got 91 incoming connections!
22:56:01 <pink_zebra[m]> Hello, do you believe that governments will push laws for crypto financial regulations like identifying user addresses from to personal information that will get from exchanges? How will this affect the whole crypto sphere? atm there is a bounty on monero of 1m dollars, maybe the law knows that after the crypto regulations the people will come to monero and tries to be a step ahead
22:56:52 <zed19[m]> how long does it take to get rewards for mining?
22:58:03 <moneromooo> On average... the network hash rate times 2 minutes divided by your hash rate.
22:58:09 <moneromooo> Huge variance though.
22:58:15 <zed19[m]> <pink_zebra[m] "Hello, do you believe that gover"> get on decentralized exchanges
22:58:38 <zed19[m]> you can get xmr on bisq
22:59:01 <pink_zebra[m]> yes i believe this can work
22:59:32 <pink_zebra[m]> w8, do decentralized exchanges allow you to convert fiat to crypto?
22:59:34 <zed19[m]> <moneromooo "On average... the network hash r"> alright
22:59:36 <zed19[m]> ty
22:59:41 <Inge-> pink_zebra[m]: the bounty and the increased adoption in darknet markets indicate that MOnero does what it says on the tin - provides the best private peer 2 peer digital money available. Anything that makes users desire or need privacy, will push them towards Monero.
23:01:36 <zed19[m]> exactly, thats why it grew on value for me and is my favourite coin
23:02:07 <zed19[m]> the leading cypherpunks are working on the cryptography as well
23:08:08 <Inge-> and atomic swaps with btc (and also probably ETH and other chains) are under way
23:10:18 <zed19[m]> <pink_zebra[m] "w8, do decentralized exchanges a"> yes you can sell your crypto for fiat
23:10:20 <orly_owl> whats your ETA for "under way"?
23:10:29 <zed19[m]> or vice versa
23:12:23 <pink_zebra[m]> <zed19[m] "yes you can sell your crypto for"> Im checking it out now, this is very good, this is a very big thing for crypto and the fees are lower than other big exchanges
23:13:00 <zed19[m]> some say that the fees on the bisq.network are too high... find out for yourself
23:13:41 <Inge-> orly_owl: you can ask in #monero-swap
23:13:58 <zed19[m]> now with the bsq-token the fees should be lower
23:22:29 * pikachu[m] uploaded an image: IMG_20210109_022141.jpg (353KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/IqLEAOHMnFsKozhseTEWEZcf/IMG_20210109_022141.jpg >
23:28:56 <Inge-> nice re-affirmation of an older tweet: https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/1347088215941861377  - "Monero is a very good privacy complement to Bitcoin, they are both good money." -Nick Szabo
23:39:07 <pikachu[m]> [P2P8]	ERROR	net	contrib/epee/include/net/abstract_tcp_server2.inl:1519	Failed to resolve ::ffff:185.16.52.98
23:39:08 <pikachu[m]> what does it mean
23:40:01 <sethsimmons> <pikachu[m] "[P2P8]	ERROR	net	contrib/epee/in"> That’s not a valid IP address.
23:40:21 <sethsimmons> Probably a malicious peer being ignored
23:40:44 <pikachu[m]> my monerod closes after a couple minute later and i guess there's no error
23:42:57 <orly_owl> Inge-: ty
23:47:25 <pikachu[m]> <moneromooo "Wait for .9, there'll be at leas"> didn't work
23:50:32 <sethsimmons> What’s your error?
23:50:56 <sethsimmons> Only that IP address one, or anything else? Running a a service or just spawned with ./monerod?
23:51:02 <sethsimmons> What’s the exact command used?
23:51:07 <sethsimmons> What OS?