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gingeropolous
donkeydonkey[m], recent features have added a public rpc support flag, so current software can pick public rpc nodes from that list
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donkeydonkey[m]
gingeropolous: awesome. im currently checking them and storing a flag in my local db
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aum
does the network recover quickly if a node goes down for 5 seconds for a reconfigure/restart ?
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gingeropolous
aum, what do you mean?
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gingeropolous
your monero node will restart, usually within 5-10 seconds, and it will re-establish all of your outgoing connections
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aum
gingeropolous, I edit the .conf file to change mining settings, then systemctl it down and back up
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gingeropolous
you may lose some incoming connections, but for the most part thats inconsequential.
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mnt_grrrl
two answers 1. Most public hosts are connected to 12ish peers so there wont be much interruption
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aum
ok
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mnt_grrrl
2. incoming client will take longer to recover but they had likely moved on already
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aum
looks like my node will be able to sustain 5 figure uptime
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aum
5 nines i mean
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gingeropolous
nice
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h2017
the two-extra block attack won't be fixed with the next release, right? So we will still be expected to use the ban list for the next release or more right?
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gingeropolous
im honestly not sure. i haven't been able to keep up
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h2017
it would be nice to not be reliant on it but i realise that the devels are doing awesome work and i'll be patient
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RandomAB
hi
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dgcigbbxfbv
What kind of person steals from own community?
reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5…/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok Your own leaders are laughing at how stupid you are for falling for thier 'Magical Crypto Friendship'.
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alphed-
Hi I'm the CEO of monero
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mly[m]
i'm a Nigerian prince, i'd like to discuss an important matter regarding the death of my relative whose name is also Alphed.
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fluffypony
lol
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azy
what stops someone running lots of monerod on 1 machine, then proxying onto the network with different ips?
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hyc
nothing
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hyc
although at this point, very few people have access to a large pool of IP addresses
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ask6155
I have access to 2^64 ip addresses.
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ask6155
Ofcourse they are all ipv6 addresses
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jess
do nodes have to be connectable or do they only need to connect to other nodes
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moneromooo
The latter is enough, though the former is preferred.
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jess
that seems ripe for open proxies abuse
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jess
proxy*
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moneromooo
Invalid data is not relayed.
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alphed-
I like green tea
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needmoney90
How cultured
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alphed-
Buy the news
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alphed-
Short the rumor
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alphed-
Thx needmoney90
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alphed-
Rename to needmoney69
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alphed-
Will look more badass
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raecarruth
kek
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needmoney90
But I wasn't born in '69
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kiwi_35
Hi, I have installed xmrig and started mining xmr. The program tells me that the hashrate is 430 h / s. should i keep mining?
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kiwi_35
I am using 2 threads.
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kiwi_35
" miner speed 10s/60s/15m 419.2 413.8 n/a H/s max 430.4 H/s"
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monerouser1144
Hi all, following up the discussions of the last few days, in view of the network attacks, I was thinking about ways to increase the node resilience from a network perspective (rather than from the p2p protocol perspective, which the devs are currently working on). I mean, using the same tools for throttling traffic and blocking offenders that we
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monerouser1144
use for valuable servers (eshops, corporate mail-/web-servers etc). I am not sure how monerod would cope with an attack of too many simultaneous connections (similar to those done to bring down mail/web/dns servers).
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monerouser1144
E.g. I assume that a "normal" peer wouldn't open 1000s of concurrent connections to port 18080/18081 right? But can monerod cope with 1000s incoming connections (at the TCP level, not at the p2p protocol level)?
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jess
you may find good ideas in how bittorrent clients and trackers handle malicious peers because swarm poisoning has been a thing for a while
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monerouser1144
I was thinking about using iptables (limit / hashlimit modules), ipsets and of course the Linux-kernel built-in features, to control incoming traffic BEFORE it hits monerod.
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monerouser1144
And perhaps several haproxy systems on cloud "compute" nodes.
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monerouser1144
I don't know if the monero devs can make monerod perform similar to nginx or apache-mpm-event (handle lots of connections without crashing).
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monerouser1144
I just had a look at the Hetzner server auctions at
hetzner.com/sb and dedicated servers are quite affordable. I think dedi are much better than VPS / cloud servers, because monero nodes are "disposable".
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Jaska_
get 20 year old hardware, only 30€/month! what a bargain! not.
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fluffypony
Jaska_: they're not all bad, you just need to filter the list
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fluffypony
eg. find one with an SSD and that already makes a big difference
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alphed-
A large number of seemingly unrelated VA wallets controlled from the same IP-address (or MAC-address), which may involve the use of shell wallets registered to different users to conceal their relation to each other.
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Jaska_
Well yes I can see some dimes in there but was wondering why only 1-2€ difference can make huge difference in performance
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alphed-
This is fatf red flag
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alphed-
Lmao
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alphed-
What Mac address control thus wallet sir?
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alphed-
Fucking dumb
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monerouser1144
Following up my previous comments about setting up resilient public nodes on dedicated servers at Hetzner/OVH/etc, do you have an opinion about add more than one IPv4 address (e.g. getting a small block of 8 IPv4s). Would that be almost just as helpful than setting up 8 independent VPSes?
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SerHack
monerouser1144: yes, that would help a little. But remember that it's a point of centralization
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sech1
Monero nodes don't connect to peers in the same /16 range so having VPSes in different data centers and different /16 ranges helps.
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monerouser1144
OK, in that case I'm thinking that setting up multiple independent haproxy (
haproxy.org) nodes in front of 3-4 dedi might be best.
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monerouser1144
We would have 3-4 dedicated servers with the full blockchain, but put 50-100 haproxy servers in front of them with minimal storage requirements. This way we could grow the network very quickly.
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alphed-
What are you trying to do monerouser1144
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monerouser1144
alphed- thinking out loud about ways to increase the number of resilient monero public nodes, which could withstand a network attack (not at the p2p protocol level like the ones currently in progress). Thinking of a better way to do what was posted today
old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/kn1yvj/5_extra_public_nodes
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arseniko
what you think about iphone SE?
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alphed-
Economic inventive is all u need
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kangaroo69[m]
What do y'all think of Nouriel Roubini's and Joseph Stiglitz's criticisms of cryptocurrencies?
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monerouser1144
Well, based on their real-life track record I consider both of them irrelevant. I mean I've been following them for 20 years and they have been wrong about almost everything.
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monerouser1144
I wouldn't go as far as consider them a contrarian indicator (meaning do the exact opposite of what they suggest), but they're close.
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kangaroo69[m]
monerouser1144: weren't they both among the first economists to predict the financial crash?
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monerouser1144
But I am quite concerned that the bigger nations will "regulate" cryptocurrencies, or else they risk losing their monopoly on money, which is a very powerful tool. “We must do everything possible to make sure the currency monopoly remains in the hands of states.” -- German Finance Minister
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monerouser1144
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monerouser1144
In the case of Roubini, he's been saying the same stuff for the past 20+ yr. Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day
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kangaroo69[m]
monerouser1144: Even as someone who is very skeptical of market predictions, I think Roubini and Stiglitz are remarkably not inaccurate compared to the rest of their field. About regulating cryptocurrencies, I think countries should regulate them. Did you read about the manipulation that pushed up the bitcoin price back in 2017 & 2018?
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kangaroo69[m]
* monerouser1144: Even as someone who is very skeptical of market predictions, I think Roubini and Stiglitz are remarkably not inaccurate—especially compared to other economists. About regulating cryptocurrencies, I think countries should regulate them. Did you read about the manipulation that pushed up the bitcoin price back in 2017 & 2018?
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kangaroo69[m]
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monerouser1144
Well, do you realize that most advanced nations are "printing money" (aka debasing the currency) at unprecedented rates? Do you realize that the central banks are no longer independent? Have you seen the chart of e.g. M2
fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2 going back 40-50 yr?
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ackdroid
Monerouser: Yes you are right - gold has to go up in value, whether that includes crypto I dunno
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ackdroid
ECB allegedly getting involved with tether, or the other way round
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monerouser1144
It seems that people prefer cryptocurrencies and BTC in particular, as a defense against currency debasement, instead of gold.
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ackdroid
yep BTC for sure
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ackdroid
BTC aside I think the future is low energy crypto - it's why I mine XMR
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kangaroo69[m]
monerouser1144: Why would money stock not increase as GDP increases?
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Inge-
once you start thinking about gold and you want to physically own it, it gets kind of difficult. BTC is easy.
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Inge-
... relatively
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kangaroo69[m]
> It seems that people prefer cryptocurrencies and BTC in particular, as a defense against currency debasement, instead of gold.
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kangaroo69[m]
If that's true, then are people stupid, or am I stupid? The increase in the price of gold has been MUCH more stable than that of BTC🤣
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kangaroo69[m]
Sure, gold fluctuates, but bitcoin goes bonkers
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monerouser1144
xmr/btc back to 0.5% ...
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mark_bleep[m]
<monerouser1144 "xmr/btc back to 0.5% ..."> Can you explain that comment for anewb?
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monerouser1144
It's the currency pair of monero / bitcoin (like EUR/USD or USD/JPY etc) check
monero.how
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mark_bleep[m]
monerouser1144 ty
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dEBRUYNE
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ragn4
:O
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h2017
sweet
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h2017
thanks for doing the Lord's work
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h2017
i don't see anything about wheether or not the banlist is still needed
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selsta
h2017: currently peers claiming +2 get kicked
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selsta
but it is only a matter of time until they change / do a new attack
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h2017
i'll run without the banlist until it becomes necessary
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selsta
you will probably be able to run without banlist for a couple days
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ragn4
[ 3%] Building C object external/miniupnp/miniupnpc/CMakeFiles/libminiupnpc-static.dir/connecthostport.c.o
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h2017
shouldn't you encourage people to run without a blocklist so we can identify attacks?
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h2017
blocklist when it becomes necessary otherwise log everything
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Lyza
moneropulse seems to be down at the moment?
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selsta
Lyza: isn’t moneropulse only used for dns?
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Lyza
Idk really, I was just trying to peep the blocklist at blocklist.moneropulse.*
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Lyza
but can't get any to load
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Lyza
I assume it's the same as the block.txt you've been maintaining?
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selsta
yes
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selsta
dig -t txt blocklist.moneropulse.se
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selsta
works for me
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Lyza
okay cool I see what you mean by 'it's only DNS now'