Damn I had 'SafeSocks 1' in the config at the tor-instance. Now I have a lot of P2P onion addresses in the peer list ;-)

We've forked :D Welcome to CLSAG, Monero ;)

Oh wow, my blockchain just went from 90 GB to 82 GB :o

<cankerwort> Welcome to scaling

XD

fluffypony: so i could do a subaddress per order. with my server connected via rpc to the daemon which would be waiting on that subaddress to be funded then i could mark my order paid for?

I don't think localmonero.co/blocks has been updated to v0.17.x

Not sure if anyone from LM is active in here.

Alex_LocalMonero ^.

Thanks 🙂

buying monero on localMonero is cool but how do those sellers get their momero? they have to use an exchange right?

they could mine it, or receive it in exchanges for goods or services

no one needs to know how they got it, that's kinda the whole point :)

anyone know if this NodeJs library is legit and can anyone recomend it. PsychicCat / monero-nodejs at github.com/PsychicCat/monero-nodejs thanks

I *think* that account is legit, assuming it's not a typo squatter. Thus the lib would also be.

It's saddam's AFAIK.

@sethsimmons, you're correct, we'll update it soon.

<Alex_LocalMonero "@sethsimmons, you're correct, we"> Awesome, thanks! Just wanted to be sure y’all were aware 🙂

We're aware, thanks for the concern! :)

about 4 minutes for my first C:SAG tx to hit the txpool

CLSAG

Will bad quite bad until the majority are on v0.17.1 :/

Put a fork in it

it seems almost all txs are still MLSAG according to size o_O

We got another fork in one day according to the daemon lol

second tx not in mempool after 8 minutes

bigslim[m]: as it should be

to make sure MLSAG txs are sent

Double fork ehh

yep

tx was in, just blind

timing unknown

well even when most nodes are v0.17.1 then chain analysis companies can still mess with it by setting up nodes that drop transactions

only proper solution is easy i2p / tor integration

I’ll keep my node running

adding i2p / tor seed nodes will be a good first step

imma gunna spin up 1k honest nodes

nodesRus

Lol “honest nodes”

Imma spin up 1k “honest fpga”

yeah just took me like 5 min to hit the mempool, too

ndorf: what is the cost for a vps node

depends on the provider. i had one for $25/year for a bit but they went out of business, lol

ok something dependable :)

worlswide

hard to find a cheap VPS with 100GB storage, honestly.

worldwide even

usually those will come with like 8 cores and gobs of RAM, which isn't necessary for a node

pruned should also work

yeah, that too

still need 30-40GB though, i think to get that for cheap you have to follow hosting forums and look for deals.

if you configure such a thing at DO or something it'll probably be like $200+/yr

thx

hetzner / ovh have good prices

looks like $10.58-$21.16/mo on ovh

that isn't a bad price, and at least you know ovh will still be there tomorrow

4€ / month enough for a pruned node on hetzner

nice

unfortunately the golden age of lowendbox.com is over

it's where i found my 4 core 120GB one for $25/yr, years ago

now it seems to be mostly scams

damn humans

wen aliens

hostballs/hostedtalk seems legit, but only has a few scant deals posted every now and then in comparison

that being said, if you really want a cheap node, you could post your reqs there and hope some provider makes you a good offer

or just go with hetzner, heh

meow

Sent a CLSAG tx that went through in < 10 seconds, looks like fast tx are still possible if lucky.

Just depends on how lucky you get with Dandelion++ routing.

yep

will send a couple tomorrow and see

everyone send 1 XMR to $MY_ADDR, and we'll see who comes first! winner gets their 1 XMR back

what if I send 2?

i dunno, that might overload my system. wanna try it and find out?

Currently being held captive by cat and can only use phone

FYI whoever goes cakewallet it doesn’t actually delete remote nodes when you delete them, just moves to the bottom

ndorf: $16-19/mo for AWS including domain but that’s only for 1c 1gb ram and 30gb ssd

AWS for a node seems unnecessary overpriced

Isn't the blockchain like 90 GB anyway?

pruned is like 30?

ealier it was said 30-40 GB is needed

it only gets bigger

any reason why my node is showing ` v13 (next fork in 0.9 days)`

yea there's another fork in a day or so

to v14

.tall

ah ok

for $15/month you can run a pruned node on digital ocean

What exactly is Dandelion++?

I read about it being i2p, is that really the case

Nothing to do with I2P. With Dandelion++ your transaction gets handed around first between single daemons before it gets broadcasted to all others, to make it much harder to trace its origin

So, I'm also going to ask, what information could be gained by me confirming two separate transactions from two separate wallets into a single wallet?

Is there any chain analysis feasible in that situation?

That's always a little hard to say, but if you only do this I can't imagine that this alone already leaves something to fingerprint about you in the blockchain

So me announcing that I made those two separate transactions is basically worthless to a malicious party?

Think so, yes. Anyway, as that malicious party probably does not know your Monero addresses anyway, and they *don't* appear in the blockchain, it's hard for them

Often people don't seem to consider this fully: If somebody found out "Hey, in this ring, I do know which is the true spend!" they still have no idea *who* spent there

I trust Monero too, I'm not too worried about it. When I said Monero in the nude I didn't mean my financial history.

:)

Monero seems really slow after the fork

It’s due to Dandelion++, transactions can take couple minutes until they appear on the blockchain. This will get better once more nodes updated to v0.17.1.0

until they appear on the mempool*

Is it "on" the mempool or "in" the mempool?

in probably

Personally I use the word "in", because it's a pool.

in the mempool, on the blockchain

:D

yea I copied the on from the previous message and only changed blockchain to mempool lol

who can update notes on xmrchain.net

I was sleeping for the fork, I assume everything went perfect?

"The most up to date software for Monero are version: CLI v0.16.0.3, GUI v0.16.0.3"

And the footer

pretty old note

might be Snipa that can do that NHnCH3, Mochi101

-- --- -. . .-. ---

Mochi101: These forks are a scam. No drama, no extra coins. Boooo-ring

We need more hype!

And no "yield farming" whatsoever. A shame for the whole cryptocurrency field.

tbh, I don't even know what yield farming is.

All I know is it's some new cryptocurrency thing.

Speaking of drama. How is Craig wright?

Mochi101: it is farming money from chickens - Ponzi Chicken

d4ndo[m]: he is almost as boring as xmr lately.

Too bad

Not really, for crypto space it's a good thing Craig Satoshi Wright is all boring.

The S in CSW is for Satoshi, right?

sovereign majesty

I have a long stupid question (of the copy paste variety.) Hopefully there's no character limit? Can I ask stupid questions here?

I'll just paste it...

Can somebody clarify "in" and "out" peer connections for me? I run a full node (./monerod --restricted-rpc) just a regular setup, not (yet) a public remote node. I need clarification here. P2P runs on port 18080. netstat shows all in/out connections with monerod. When somebody connects to MY port 18080 (they connect to my open P2P with a random TCP

port) are they an "in" or an "out" connection? Am I uploading the blockchain to them? Or am I downloading it from them?When a random TCP port of mine connects to somebody else's port 18080... am I sending them blocks or receiving blocks from them? Typing "status" in monerod terminal session, I see "8(out)+71(in)" The 8 "out" peers... am I

uploading blocks to them or downloading blocks from them? The 71 "in" peers... uploading or downloading blocks?This is confusing me because every connection has an upload and a download side depending on your viewpoint. So 8 "out" peers... that makes me think I am outbound (uploading) to them? 71 "in" peers, well inbound is receiving

(downloading?) When somebody connects to MY port 18080 I sometimes see high "Send-Q" on netstat... that means I sent (uploaded) packets that they have copied yet. I think I might have this backwards.

in = nodes connecting to you

out = you connecting to nodes

Yeah... but do I upload to "in" or "out" nodes? I'm trying to be a more useful seed node because I have a lot of unused bandwidth. I'm not sure if I can make setting changes to make me upload more to peers. (limit_up is default 2 MB/s)

I think in peers are requesting while out is you requesting

So "out" are the peers I download from? This would make sense with netstat. That's why I'm confused.

yes

Okay cool. They should just call them "down". Maybe it's just me.

outbound connection and inbound connection

based on requests... peer has to request something before someone give it to them. So you're asking 8 peers for stuff while 79 peers are asking you for stuff

d4ndo:

outbound would imply I am uploading to them. In my thoughts anyways. It's backwards then! That makes more sense.

I have a bunch of dumb dev questions because I'm trying to detect possible threats. I can't even start without knowing these basics.

Can you "ban" out peers? Other than with firewall... in monerod itself? I had thought so, but I don't see the option in monerod --help

?

There's a 'ban' command if monerod is open

Type help and you will see it

ah okay, i see it. Thanks dEVBUYNE and Mochi. That'll get me started on more dumb questions lol

As far as I know, this "in" and "out" indication tells you only how the initial connection took place. I would assume that once connected blocks can freely go up and down with each peer, as needed

But it's more probable that those "in" peers will download the blockchain from you because that was their reason to search you and connect: They need blocks

you guys know of a clever way I might be able to differentiate between a monero node's JSON RPC interface and another cryptonote coin's?

That makes sense... but complicates things further. I've no doubt bandwidth goes both ways; but I wish to seed as much as I can. 1Gbps unmetered and I only upload an average ~95 kB/s

\/get_info is the same. is there another interface I could deduce if it's monero or not?

Is the JSON RPC encrypted with TLS/SSL? If not, maybe packet capture looking for "monero" (or whatever) headers in the JSON.

iGotStupidQuesti: Check out limit

limit_in and limit_out

sorry limit_up and limit_down

limit_up is set to default 2 MB/s ... if I set it to 0 (zero) is that unlimited or nothing?

Or i'll just use really big number

this is dedicated monero node server

I think it is kBit/s

so 10000 is 10 MBNit/s

Yes it is. 2048 kB/s, but "print_net_stats" write in MB. limit_up probably wants kB.

Should the in amount of peers increase if someone is using your node for their wallet?

1000000 should be 1 GB/s

monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference

Somebody only use your node if you make it a public node (I think) otherwise they just synchronize blocks with you

I'll read that link, thanks. Copied.

That brings me another question: does monerod use SSL/TLS when connecting with peers?

tcpdump would probably tell me... but I'm curious more how that works (if it uses encryption.)

lza_menace: Why would you have a problem with other coins' wallets connecting to your daemon in the first place?

:)

And I don't think it's versioned or tagged in any way. Whoever wants can use RPC to get info from your daemon

im building a web app that accepts daemon urls

That could be any tool after all, in Python or whatever

rbrunner: github.com/lalanza808/monero-node-lists

im dicking around with a simple web app that accepts node urls

for the purposes of aggregating, sharing

technically any cryptonote node would work

i think im going to send a "get_block" for block 0 and hardcode the expected results

and set a bool....is_monero true or false

Well Monero RPC is usually port 18081, while most other coins use different ports. MoneroOcean's codebase maybe interesting for you @lza_menace

Ah, ok, that's recognition the other way round. Yeah, that block 0 fingerprinting should be reliable, don't have a better idea right now

Now that I'm getting to know about outputs, is it possible and should I attempt to split outputs?

iGotStupidQuesti: assuming ports would be too unreliable, would like something more concrete. i think comparing known block info works for now

That's a good point.

Anybody know if monerod uses some kind of encryption for P2P? I thought it did, but I might be thinking of something else.

I'm not sure how it would trade certs to use TLS... maybe in blockchain or headers? I don't know, this is still new for me.

Tor is an obvious encryption option... but I'm asking about native use.

there is TLS support but I think it's usually turned off

(or maybe that's only available on wallet connections, haven't checked)

Hmmm okay. It seems like it should be turned on... but maybe it has issues.

Hey hyc, if you're hyc-symas on Reddit can you check my post, I'm flagged so I had to edit my old one

hm looks like it's only available for rpc, not p2p

monerointhenude4: I replied to your DM

You were able to see it?

one of them, yes. seems like the others disappeared.

Reddit did not respond to me for an appeal of my flagged account so I'll have to check

anyway, pls reply to my last message

Maybe nobody uses Reddit anymore for these reasons

Also why the turnout was so low

@monerointhenude4 Why Reddit flag account? Not to pry... I'd just make a new account, just need an email I think.

No email required, but funnily enough I did have an email, and it still got flagged

At least they don't require cell phone short code verification... yet :/

Probably Tor

ah probably yeah

Still no Reddit admin response

somebody could make a reddit blockchain... somebody probably already has, just not popular yet

All the Reddit alternatives have major flaws, they don't allow casual browsing with javascript disabled

oh man... reddit sign-in with usernames, no? somebody could flag you with failed logins from Tor. yikes

That's unfortunate... just need a simple text platform really. Getting people to use it is something else though

I am also curious as to why this contest had little turnout, and the Reddit explanation is the only thing I have

pastebin reddit-style in public blockchain. or maybe forums like simple machine forum with forum posts saved to blocks. I don't know... I'm not a dev.

Also apparently my account isn't flagged, it's just r/Monero karma limits

@monerointhenude4 what contest? If I may ask... it sounds public anyways

But my other personal accounts were able to post as fresh accounts, so I don't know

I was the first CLSAG transaction to a wallet

karma limits? I don't even know about that

Not the blockchain itself, just a wallet

maybe you need to click the ADs more lol jk

i bet reddit likes AD clickers

bitmessage has mailing lists which are pretty nice

"CLSAG" ... heard of it, don't know what it is. is that like new better compression?

I've got stupid in my name for a reason lol

New transaction algorithm, and I guess it is a compression since it's smaller

Oh... another stupid question (hold on)

Why this block have 3.556 fees? xmrchain.net/block/2205812

monerointhenude4: I approved your comments by the way

They should be visible now

I saw that

MO mined it awhile back... i like it, but why fee so high for tiny kB TX?

I didn't notice karma limits on my other accounts though

Maybe they wanted it turbo speed

everything fast though... that TX fee just seems insane to me. But I mine at MO so I like it :)

I thought it was kind of a silly thing to message the moderators like that though

What's MO

MoneroOcean (pool)

monerointhenude4: Each subreddit has its own limits, so perhaps it is related to that

I immediately assumed it was Reddit itself because that's usually the issue

I transaction: in/out: 1/2 1.7363 kB ... 3.556 XMR fee. just bizarre. I didn't think you could pay that much for increased speed. it's not a big deal; I just wonder.

@dEBRUYNE you moderate reddit... what do you mean by karma limits? I can just look it up really

i didnt know there were such limits

monerointhenude4: ok, I sent you the wallet seed. enjoy your winnings!

Now I need to get truthturtoise his 0.32

We should also figure out how to get more people to notice next time

Yeah... I don't even know what you are referring too :/

Also hypothetically, if I was the first CLSAG transaction, and it was 100 blocks away, would I have still won?

yes

pog

the only reason I said there was no winner was because my wallet hadn't refreshed

it only showed me txns up to block 2210000

which was why it was so surprising. usually most of the txns are after the target, not before.

I still don't know where to shoot to end up in 2210000

it's just luck and timing

I tested the transaction time while I was loading up my secondary wallet

And did the same

but 2210001 came like 7 seconds after 2210000 - nobody could have predicted that

Why so fast

because mining is a random process

Is dynamic block size at play?

nobody can predict exactly when the next block is mined

Or did the fork instantly push aside that block

that's what makes the game playable. if it were exact clockwork, there would be no game.

It has a few transactions in it though

they were just leftovers in the pool after 0000 was mined, I suppose

Well, somebody has got some Azure mining or something going again. But timing is still unpredictable

or again, just lucky enough to arrive before

Oh, I just missed some messages due to network errors

I wasn't even responding to you yet it's funnily coherent

would it be possible to mine on a block template in advance of the block and then broadcast it? I guess not; I think you need the previous block's PoW hash, no?

right

iGotStupidQuesti: To prevent spam, comments from users that are below a certain karma limit need to be manually approved by the moderators

oh okay. thanks.

Okay what

I don't know where the funds went

Wallet glitch?

wallet glitch it was

@monerointhenude4 The wallet you won in the contest? I read the contest post on reddit now I get it. Is your node up to sync?

Yes

GUI wallet having issues

sometimes i have to close simplewallet and restart it

But it's the only way to wipe a wallet of funds that I know of

Daemon is busy

Darn

I have another idea

Use a remote node

This is quite the ordeal

Do you run your own node? I was considering putting my node up for public use as a remote node. I want to use it in the best way possible to help the network, but I'm unsure how best to do that.

I run a node in a Qubes VM for a "cold" wallet to use

Which version of the GUI are you using?

The versions before v0.17.1.0 had some issues with transactions getting stuck on pending

I haven't been able to get the new one because Whonix hasn't pushed it to their repository and I think I might just use the official one.

Give me the pgp fingerprint and I'll do it now

This is why I don't really like package managers

"We're going to decentralise everything, but here's all your software in one place"

The transaction has completed

I just build mine from the github codebase... it does take some time to built though. My last build took forever because it built all the test files that I didn't need. I'm not sure how to disable the test build... probably find it in CMakeLists

Qubes is great if you have the hardware for it (enough RAM)

I kind of want to see how the new Gentoo Qubes template works

Qubes, but now with additional source based controls

monerointhenude4: A list of GPG signed hashes is available on the website

++ for gentoo :). can easily be your own package maintainer when something doesn't get updated

I was looking for extra assurance that the signing key is not compromised

Apparently my node froze

Could be a malicious attack

Morning: Does anyone happen to have a stagenet remote node running via Tor?

@monerointhenude4 Do you have any basis / evidence that it was malicious? This is the kind of stuff I've started looking into, but I don't know how everything works well enough yet.

boldsuck: xmr.to does: community.xmr.to/nodes.html

xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion:380831

Not really, I was joking, but I heard about something where they can control the nodes and not send you blocks

No I need P2P address

prob 38080

i borked the port in my paste

but look at the first link

XMR.to hosts all these nodes for the community

@lza_menance These are all the RPC addresses. For the wallet to deposit. I'm looking for somep2p.onion:38083 for node peering

ok

I also had this misconception - some pr for getting nodes upgraded would be helpful twitter.com/jasmine_plant/status/1317260286580019200

I only find testnet and mainnet P2P onion addresses. Nobody likes stagenet :-(

The xmr.to team has stagenet onions running. I ask them by email.

What can be done with an older "stuck" (2 days) transaction that won't relay?

flush_txpool TXID

sweet

thanks

and then re-relay them?

ah no

ok, they're gone

Good morning :)

Good late afternoon.

Good time of day

so, question. I have deployed a btcpayserver with the Monero extension. Its on exampledomain.com. I want to run a monero block explorer on exampledomain2.com, which is NOT hosted on the same server. Can I use the node on exampledomain.com to feed the data to exampledomain2.com without opening up an avenue for attack on exampledomain.com? My instinct says yes, its possible, but I wanted to make

sure I didnt miss anything obvious before I start wrenching on it

ruhk, yes

ruhk, what're you using the btcpayserver for though?

im using btcpayserver for payment processing for myself and my local community.

im not opposed to running a second node to simplify things if it would be more secure, i was just hoping to avoid the increased hosting fees

Monero has Monerointegrations if you're running Woocommerce or WHMCS or Prestashop

ha. thats actually where i started with my sites. I initially used monerujo w/ ledger. Its only recently that I decided to go full btcpayserver. I did so in order to make available the POS feature of btcpayserver to some local merchants

I see, ok.

so with that said, id like to run a public block explorer, presumably something similar to github.com/moneroexamples/onion-monero-blockchain-explorer

i'm not an advanced user so my setup is pretty rudimentary. I wanted to keep my btcpayserver vps isolated on its own so that its a default install so to speak. make tech support easier if needed.

That block explorer is fairly popular.

I want it for 2 reasons. 1, be your own bank , not your keys, trust but verify, etc etc. and 2, I want to contribute back to the monero ecosphere. I dont code, so public access to node resources is my best contribution.

for sure

If you want to make the node available internally without exposing it to the whole internet, you could consider using something like Wireguard to set up a basic VPN between the two different servers running the two different domains (assuming that's your setup)

thats helpful, thank you

And then bind monerod/monero-wallet-rpc to listen for clients on the wg0 interface, making it available to both servers

ok, thanks. that points me in the right direction

You're welcome

Would anyone happen to know why xmrig would give me a linking error like this: `/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++`

it's been puzzling me for some time now since I have stdc++ all installed. The only thing I can think of is maybe it wants a 32 bit package for it

it's not the sort of error one would expect to encounter

marmulak, stackoverflow.com/questions/3060097…in-ld-cannot-find-lnameofthelibrary

Makes sense, but how can Fedora install its own system libraries in a path unknown to the linker. Sounds suspicious. But I'll let you know if I figure it out

What are the hardware requirements for townforge?

Some OpenGL capable machine. MESA's OK (I use it), but will be a bit slow. The game needs like 4 GB RAM for now.

Is that like a Monero thing

A monero fork with a game on top (see ##townforge to talk about it, since it's not monero itself)

Oh damn

I thought we could talk about it here since the faq says Moneromoo got the first town to bootstrap the game

But alright. I wonder if there's a Matrix channel besides #freenode_##townforge:matrix.org

It's a fork I made. The fact it is I doesn't mean I get a free pass others don't :P

A bit of talk is fine I guess.

There's no matrix relay.

Someone's free to add one if they want.

do it

matrix is bae

yeah and it's also the only way anyone using Tor can join the Monero chatroom over Tor without signing up to Freenode over the clearnet

copenhagen_bram[: being able to create an account with nickserv on using only tor is coming to freenode soon(TM)

oh cool

i believe they are designing a PoW system to prevent spam

smort

can I read the blog post or whatever about it?

not sure if it's been properly announced yet

Here's hoping they might use primo/monero ^_^

what do you mean?

like monero's pow algorithm randomx?

Yes, primo is software that allows a remote server to request hashes from a client before serving the client.

Implemented for apache/firefox, but theoretically can work for other stuff.

oh cool

but why monero's PoW?

Oh, ASIC resistance?

maybe you'll be lucky and find a block for them :)

Ohh, are we talking about Freenode having users mine Monero for them in order to sign up through Tor?

i doubt they will though :( i mentioned randomx but they wanted something to run in the browser

i guess it's not too important here, as they can just disable signups or quickly switch to a different PoW if it gets abused

perks of centralisation :D

Randomx doesn't run in the browser? What happened to coinhive?

i think coinhive died with CryptoNight/R

And it mines on monero.

Using monero's pow allows it to mine on monero, which means the server gets some block reward from time to time. It's kinda micropayments.

That's what I was talking about, but it's unlilely they'll do htat.

Dead AFAIK.

Primo runs a separate binary, with which the Firefox plugin talks.

tevador made another randomx daemon, which coiuld replace that part of primo.

In theory.

RIP coinhive, i guess i'll have to install monero mining malware in a warez torrent instead of my phishing website /s

0.17.1.0 I did a sweep of my mining inputs and received the wallet notification "Password needed (output received) - use the refresh command

after doing so it displayed Balance 0.000000000000, unlocked balance 0.000000000000 with no block height or txid info

shortly after I get the password needed................... notification and after using refresh again I get a correct locked balance as well as tx height and txid

nioc: i got that on 0.16.x.x too, until the tx gets included in a block

is this new where you need to use refresh twice?

do you mean I am actually faster than something else?

asymptotically: thx

nioc: did you enter your password correctly?

yes

hmm yea like asy said most likely has to get included in a block before balance updates

it was in a block

as best as I can tell

first refresh is usually when it's in the mempool

nope

defiantly not

there is a short time between completing first refresh and 2nd one being requested

at least tx got into the txpool quickly :)

Thy should be every... N secoinds. I want to say 90, not ure.

But definitely not super fast.

I am slo so everything seems fast lol

no big deal for me just thought it may mean something

don't think anything was changed in this regard

yeah I think it happened in 0.16 as asy said

Monerod keep : "There were 11 blocks in the last 60 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck"

since 0.17, upgraded to 0.17.1 but same

I get the same. Not your problem.

Good idea to upgrade anyway :)

Confirmed here also.

oh so it's normal ?

no

Kinda between normal and abnormal. Mostly normal still I'd say.

or blockchain is just a bit "saturated"

No...

Just as it says: There were 11 blocks in the last 60 minutes. The target is 30.

not enough blocks

Mochi101: not enough mined ? but too much in mempool ?

Not enough mined.

There was recently a miner with a very large percentage of the Monero network hashrate who went offline in the last little while.

The network hasn't had time to adjust.

hey hyc, who was the guy working on/promoting multicast?

It's adjusting.

gave a few talks at fosdem iirc. had a poc chat app using it.

So there are now less miners working on blocks that have a higher than normal difficulty for the current network hashrate.

The miner responsible is sometimes referred to as "Hanoi Boy".

interesting thanks

Nobody is 100% sure where he gets his compute power... but many think he's abusing MS Azure.

haha

serious

Usually monero is banned from cloud

abusing it? like hacked?

i wanted to have a blockchain backup, but they banned my account for mining...

brett sheffield!

lol

Mining in general is usually against TOS.

Yeah but i was not mining just a monerod backup

copenhagen_bram[, nobody is sure

ooh it's a mystery

My info is second hand... But I heard that he was talking about it somewhere... never mentioned where or how he was getting the compute power.

He said it would only last two weeks in total... but the first time he hit the network it was only for a few days.

This is not the first time.

hey, anyone managed to successfully contact huobi? hbg XMR withdrawals are not available since the upgrade, and they didn't even announce it

going to guess they didn't even update their nodes

Does anyone know if there is a chat group somewhere for the monerujo wallet?

hello, can anyone help me to recover my wallet :/

i have a 25 word memonic (or however that is written), but it seems not to work when entering anywhere

the list of words comes out of monejuro

How are you trying to restore it ?

i installed hte mymonero npm thingie

electron

don't tell me i should've written anything else down then im sad

The seed ought to be all you need.

Try the normal CLI / GUI wallet

moneromooo: even when it's from monejuro?

Good question. I assume they do something sane, but I don't actually know.

If you added a password to the seed, you'd also need that too. I expect you did not.

Anyway: monero-wallet-cli --restore-deterministic-wallet

Then follow instructions.

If monerujo used the same system, it should just work.

well i had to

set a pw

For the seed ? Or just the wallet file ?

You only need it if it's for the seed (aka offset).

i don't know what those things mean :/

THen you probably did not :)

i think for the seed, since i dont a file for that app

IIRC. the password is for restoring the wallet *files* that get written by monerujo. When you created your wallet inside that app, it shows you 2 things: 25 word mnemonic seed, and the password. AFAIK. if you have 25 word mnemonic seed then you are good.

anyone know the monero manjaro package maintainer? "kpcyrd"

basic: okay, just try to restore a seed with a different wallet

Anybody know what 'street mode' is in monerujo?

viperperidot[m]: haven't used monerujo but think that it hides certain things on the screen so that people nearby can't see them, like if you were on the street where people are

Right, it replaces the monero logo with the ripple logo so noone who sees it wants to mug you to steal it.

(seriously though, no idea)

hehehe

think it hides things such as your balance

dark mode is just a dark theme

dark theme is new!!!!!!

regular is red and whit.. dark mode is just a bit off black and purple

It now uses the tx value encoded in the QR Code too... (thanks!)

I should check if it still crashed when you put a : into the tx description field of a qr code.

Q: Is there a website that offers a pie chart of the hashrate of all Monero pools ? I came across one a few days ago, but I didn't bookmark it ...

there was one but it was incomplete

monerouser1144: minexmr.com/pools.html

is the current GUI now showing integrated addresses as is? i.e. without splitting the payment id from it

pie chart looks better than it used to

ffnopeg, since 3 forks ago

or more...

no more separate payment ID

moneromooo: I keep getting that socket error 15001 or whatever when closing moneroD. Started with 17.0 and 17.1

Mochi101: the GUI doesn't show integrated addresses in history

Thanks nioc, that was the one. The "Unknown" hashrate are people mining directly ? (not via a known pool)

maybe you're confusing two things, one is not being able to specify payment id, another is the history view

maybe you didn't pose your question clearly enough

:P

ffnopeg: It "should" show them as integrated address. If you click on more info it should the payment ID separate

monerouser1144: directly or a pool(s) that they are not tracking

I don’t know if it does.

unless the latest was updated to display it, it still doesn't. That's why I asked if it's still doing this

there are many txs that are paying 5x what they should be paying

happy miners Mochi101 ^^^

ffnopeg: please update to the latest version anyway

v0.17.0.1 has issues with sending

ffnopeg, if you tap the transaction it shows the detailed info

the detailed info splits the payment id guys, that's exactly what I'm saying :)

and that 5x had nothing to do with a large txpool

I have one here.. was sent just an hour ago or so

and what do you see?

account, notes, destination, payment ID, tx id, block... etc

yes and destination is the integrated address or did it got split?

It would be great, if someone would add to the docs the info about seed formats offered at reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/g6yqb3…_bip39_seed_phrase_standard_in_2020 and monero.stackexchange.com/questions/…ed-to-bip-39-for-standardization-re

I'm not sure what you're asking ffnopeg

it's very simple. You enter an integrated address when sending, do you see that integrated address anywhere in the history?

or is it always displayed in the split format?

ooooh

hmmm

just doing an outgoing tx here to verify

I don't usually use this

only have it for testing

and not I can't get a connection to a daemon

since the arch pkg is listed on the gui repo: github.com/monero-project/monero-gu…lling-the-monero-gui-from-a-package is it "vetted"? there is no disclaimer like there is for the daemon: github.com/monero-project/monero#installing-monero-from-a-package but its the same person maintaining both the daemon and gui for arch repo: archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/monero-gui

It is not vetted.

Hashrate falling quite nicely in the last 24 hours. The sky is not falling :)

kinghat[m]: We could add a disclaimer but not sure if necessary.

i think the PKG_BUILD looks fine but im dumb: github.com/archlinux/svntogit-commu…/packages/monero-gui/trunk/PKGBUILD

how do import the mmemonic with the wallet cli

yay, it seems to have worked, so i hope

let's see

wait this will always work, right

because hashes

even if the password is wrong, right?

the cli doesn't do anything after connecting to a public node

qq

it just says "unntrusted node" and then doesn't accept any input :(

You're supposed to use your own node.

i know, i know

but i cannot right now :(

or rather i can't wait

there is no mymonero web :(

Which node did you try to use ?

I always am skeptical that someone could have a slim chance to get the same seed as me, but I know that if I were to skip the seed, as Monero is built to have it, it'd always encode to the same key, therefore being pointless.

multiple, ones monerojuno finds

monero-wallet-cli --untrusted-daemon --daemon-address 242.60.76.144

And it doesn't do anything if you run "refresh" ?

uhm i don't get a prompt

Ah, then it's probably timing out.

Maybe that node is not up.

happens with my own node too :(

basic: You can start monerod with --bootstrap-daemon-address auto

Then restart it with --log-level 2, see what gets written to the log.

then it will find a node for you automatically

The daemon is not set up to background mine. it says, so it's connected i guess?

or do what mooo says to fix the issue :D

which one is the rpc port?

18081 is the default RPC port.

hm, i pulled master, is that wrong?

Would recommend latest release.

synchronizationn got a lot faaster since last time i checked

if i connect to a node with --trusted-daemon by mistake, will my wallet be gonne?

or do i first have to use a stupid command

yay

i got it back :]

thank you guys

seeing mmy first transaktions

fuck monerojuro :[

what's wrong with monerujo?

well.. it kept saying the daemon is gone.. (guess it means the monerojuro servicek

so i tried to deinstall / install, and it didn't tkae the mmenoiic ( i can't write that )

hmm

what are some good monero wallets for android?

any of them have support for xmr.to?

I used a monerujo version for another coin without issue

there are txs being made whose size indicates that they are MLSAG

fun will happen in ~5 hrs when they will start being rejected

How can you tell what algorithm it is

buy the size of the tx

by

the new CLSAG txs are smaller

txs of that have the same number of inputs and outputs will be the same size

that is a 2in/2out will always be the same

and the MLSAG version is larger than the new CLSAG version

1.92 kB for CLSAG and 2.54 kB for MLSAG

copenhagen_bram: you can compile CLI on android via docker build

Then run via termux

Wait, aren’t there already arm binaries in the release?

yes we have android arm bins

I can't seem to find anything about a seed offset passphrase

Is it simply adding an extra word to the seed as a salt?

No. Run "encrypted_seed" in monero-wallet-cli, it'll ask for a passphrase and give you hte encrypted result.

So how would I regenerate the extended wallet?

Same way as normal. When you're asked for an offset, enter your passphrase.

A page that I've personally found useful to understand seed offset is xmr.llcoins.net

PS: If you decide to use it, keep in mind that the hash at the end of that webpage doesn't match (for obvious reasons) but the gpg sig checks out.

What hardware wallet would you guys recommend?

Trezor has nicer integration.

Ledger works too.

Encrypted seed in the CLI doesn't seem to be doing the same thing as the seed offset in GUI, I took the original seed from CLI and got its encrypted_seed output, and went to the GUI and restored the original seed with the same offset passphrase as I gave to encrypted_seed, but the seeds are different.

Unless I am overlooking something

They are the same thing.

Why is the seed displayed in the GUI different from the one the CLI's output gave me?

I haven't used the GUI, but I've done many tests with CLI and luigi's webpage (link above) and they always matched. I've done "restore-deterministic-wallet" at least 10 times.

I'm only testing the GUI because I remember seeing seed offset passphrase as an option

monerointhenude4: As far as I understand it, you have to enter the the encrypted seed *and* the offset to get back your original wallet.

You can store the encrypted seed in one place and the offset in a different place. Then if someone finds your seed they don’t know that it is an encrypted seed and will get an empty wallet.

I thought the passphrase hashed the original into the extended one

Oh it seems it's reversed

With the offset, the original seed is revealed

Documentation needs to level up, or at least expose itself to search engines

I agree, even the log messages are quite confusing. One needs to do a bit of reading first.