00:09:05 Damn I had 'SafeSocks 1' in the config at the tor-instance. Now I have a lot of P2P onion addresses in the peer list ;-) 00:18:24 We've forked :D Welcome to CLSAG, Monero ;) 00:19:26 Oh wow, my blockchain just went from 90 GB to 82 GB :o 00:19:58 Welcome to scaling 00:20:03 XD 00:21:00 fluffypony: so i could do a subaddress per order. with my server connected via rpc to the daemon which would be waiting on that subaddress to be funded then i could mark my order paid for? 00:31:30 I don't think https://localmonero.co/blocks has been updated to v0.17.x 00:32:05 Not sure if anyone from LM is active in here. 00:32:28 Alex_LocalMonero ^. 00:32:35 Thanks 🙂 00:34:11 buying monero on localMonero is cool but how do those sellers get their momero? they have to use an exchange right? 00:40:20 they could mine it, or receive it in exchanges for goods or services 00:41:40 no one needs to know how they got it, that's kinda the whole point :) 00:43:22 anyone know if this NodeJs library is legit and can anyone recomend it. PsychicCat / monero-nodejs at https://github.com/PsychicCat/monero-nodejs thanks 00:44:34 I *think* that account is legit, assuming it's not a typo squatter. Thus the lib would also be. 00:45:03 It's saddam's AFAIK. 01:06:59 @sethsimmons, you're correct, we'll update it soon. 01:09:29 Awesome, thanks! Just wanted to be sure y’all were aware 🙂 01:10:06 We're aware, thanks for the concern! :) 01:15:39 about 4 minutes for my first C:SAG tx to hit the txpool 01:15:44 CLSAG 01:18:04 Will bad quite bad until the majority are on v0.17.1 :/ 01:28:16 Put a fork in it 01:28:18 it seems almost all txs are still MLSAG according to size o_O 01:28:50 We got another fork in one day according to the daemon lol 01:29:38 second tx not in mempool after 8 minutes 01:29:49 bigslim[m]: as it should be 01:30:05 to make sure MLSAG txs are sent 01:30:09 Double fork ehh 01:30:27 yep 01:31:47 tx was in, just blind 01:31:55 timing unknown 01:35:17 well even when most nodes are v0.17.1 then chain analysis companies can still mess with it by setting up nodes that drop transactions 01:35:31 only proper solution is easy i2p / tor integration 01:36:31 I’ll keep my node running 01:36:35 adding i2p / tor seed nodes will be a good first step 01:38:06 imma gunna spin up 1k honest nodes 01:38:27 nodesRus 01:43:17 Lol “honest nodes” 01:43:52 Imma spin up 1k “honest fpga” 01:45:22 yeah just took me like 5 min to hit the mempool, too 01:46:03 ndorf: what is the cost for a vps node 01:46:22 depends on the provider. i had one for $25/year for a bit but they went out of business, lol 01:46:44 ok something dependable :) 01:46:59 worlswide 01:47:11 hard to find a cheap VPS with 100GB storage, honestly. 01:47:13 worldwide even 01:47:21 usually those will come with like 8 cores and gobs of RAM, which isn't necessary for a node 01:47:42 pruned should also work 01:48:10 yeah, that too 01:48:26 still need 30-40GB though, i think to get that for cheap you have to follow hosting forums and look for deals. 01:48:44 if you configure such a thing at DO or something it'll probably be like $200+/yr 01:49:27 thx 01:49:32 hetzner / ovh have good prices 01:50:44 looks like $10.58-$21.16/mo on ovh 01:50:57 that isn't a bad price, and at least you know ovh will still be there tomorrow 01:51:15 4€ / month enough for a pruned node on hetzner 01:51:27 nice 01:52:30 unfortunately the golden age of lowendbox.com is over 01:52:45 it's where i found my 4 core 120GB one for $25/yr, years ago 01:53:02 now it seems to be mostly scams 01:53:32 damn humans 01:53:38 wen aliens 01:54:07 hostballs/hostedtalk seems legit, but only has a few scant deals posted every now and then in comparison 01:54:30 that being said, if you really want a cheap node, you could post your reqs there and hope some provider makes you a good offer 01:55:06 or just go with hetzner, heh 01:55:17 meow 02:00:09 Sent a CLSAG tx that went through in < 10 seconds, looks like fast tx are still possible if lucky. 02:00:27 Just depends on how lucky you get with Dandelion++ routing. 02:01:40 yep 02:02:09 will send a couple tomorrow and see 02:02:50 everyone send 1 XMR to $MY_ADDR, and we'll see who comes first! winner gets their 1 XMR back 02:05:18 what if I send 2? 02:11:39 i dunno, that might overload my system. wanna try it and find out? 02:13:11 Currently being held captive by cat and can only use phone 03:20:35 FYI whoever goes cakewallet it doesn’t actually delete remote nodes when you delete them, just moves to the bottom 03:22:43 ndorf: $16-19/mo for AWS including domain but that’s only for 1c 1gb ram and 30gb ssd 03:24:24 AWS for a node seems unnecessary overpriced 03:28:33 Isn't the blockchain like 90 GB anyway? 03:30:06 pruned is like 30? 03:32:05 ealier it was said 30-40 GB is needed 03:32:13 it only gets bigger 03:43:21 any reason why my node is showing ` v13 (next fork in 0.9 days)` 03:44:38 yea there's another fork in a day or so 03:44:42 to v14 03:48:53 .tall 04:01:25 ah ok 04:02:49 for $15/month you can run a pruned node on digital ocean 05:03:06 What exactly is Dandelion++? 05:03:59 I read about it being i2p, is that really the case 05:08:06 Nothing to do with I2P. With Dandelion++ your transaction gets handed around first between single daemons before it gets broadcasted to all others, to make it much harder to trace its origin 05:10:48 So, I'm also going to ask, what information could be gained by me confirming two separate transactions from two separate wallets into a single wallet? 05:11:38 Is there any chain analysis feasible in that situation? 05:12:25 That's always a little hard to say, but if you only do this I can't imagine that this alone already leaves something to fingerprint about you in the blockchain 05:13:31 So me announcing that I made those two separate transactions is basically worthless to a malicious party? 05:14:36 Think so, yes. Anyway, as that malicious party probably does not know your Monero addresses anyway, and they *don't* appear in the blockchain, it's hard for them 05:16:29 Often people don't seem to consider this fully: If somebody found out "Hey, in this ring, I do know which is the true spend!" they still have no idea *who* spent there 05:17:19 I trust Monero too, I'm not too worried about it. When I said Monero in the nude I didn't mean my financial history. 05:17:55 :) 05:46:10 Monero seems really slow after the fork 05:47:28 It’s due to Dandelion++, transactions can take couple minutes until they appear on the blockchain. This will get better once more nodes updated to v0.17.1.0 05:47:49 until they appear on the mempool* 06:04:29 Is it "on" the mempool or "in" the mempool? 06:04:51 in probably 06:04:52 Personally I use the word "in", because it's a pool. 06:05:29 in the mempool, on the blockchain 06:05:30 :D 06:06:05 yea I copied the on from the previous message and only changed blockchain to mempool lol 06:07:13 who can update notes on xmrchain.net 06:07:18 I was sleeping for the fork, I assume everything went perfect? 06:07:19 "The most up to date software for Monero are version: CLI v0.16.0.3, GUI v0.16.0.3" 06:07:42 And the footer 06:08:28 pretty old note 06:24:21 might be Snipa that can do that NHnCH3, Mochi101 06:30:57 -- --- -. . .-. --- 06:43:04 Mochi101: These forks are a scam. No drama, no extra coins. Boooo-ring 06:45:17 We need more hype! 06:45:36 And no "yield farming" whatsoever. A shame for the whole cryptocurrency field. 06:46:07 tbh, I don't even know what yield farming is. 06:46:33 All I know is it's some new cryptocurrency thing. 06:46:40 Speaking of drama. How is Craig wright? 06:46:48 Mochi101: it is farming money from chickens - Ponzi Chicken 06:47:08 d4ndo[m]: he is almost as boring as xmr lately. 06:47:33 Too bad 06:48:14 Not really, for crypto space it's a good thing Craig Satoshi Wright is all boring. 06:48:55 The S in CSW is for Satoshi, right? 06:50:06 sovereign majesty 07:03:06 I have a long stupid question (of the copy paste variety.) Hopefully there's no character limit? Can I ask stupid questions here? 07:03:31 I'll just paste it... 07:03:36 Can somebody clarify "in" and "out" peer connections for me? I run a full node (./monerod --restricted-rpc) just a regular setup, not (yet) a public remote node. I need clarification here. P2P runs on port 18080. netstat shows all in/out connections with monerod. When somebody connects to MY port 18080 (they connect to my open P2P with a random TCP 07:03:36 port) are they an "in" or an "out" connection? Am I uploading the blockchain to them? Or am I downloading it from them?When a random TCP port of mine connects to somebody else's port 18080... am I sending them blocks or receiving blocks from them? Typing "status" in monerod terminal session, I see "8(out)+71(in)" The 8 "out" peers... am I 07:03:37 uploading blocks to them or downloading blocks from them? The 71 "in" peers... uploading or downloading blocks?This is confusing me because every connection has an upload and a download side depending on your viewpoint. So 8 "out" peers... that makes me think I am outbound (uploading) to them? 71 "in" peers, well inbound is receiving 07:03:37 (downloading?) When somebody connects to MY port 18080 I sometimes see high "Send-Q" on netstat... that means I sent (uploaded) packets that they have copied yet. I think I might have this backwards. 07:10:00 in = nodes connecting to you 07:10:10 out = you connecting to nodes 07:12:01 Yeah... but do I upload to "in" or "out" nodes? I'm trying to be a more useful seed node because I have a lot of unused bandwidth. I'm not sure if I can make setting changes to make me upload more to peers. (limit_up is default 2 MB/s) 07:12:01 I think in peers are requesting while out is you requesting 07:13:29 So "out" are the peers I download from? This would make sense with netstat. That's why I'm confused. 07:13:35 yes 07:14:13 Okay cool. They should just call them "down". Maybe it's just me. 07:14:33 outbound connection and inbound connection 07:15:33 based on requests... peer has to request something before someone give it to them. So you're asking 8 peers for stuff while 79 peers are asking you for stuff 07:15:58 d4ndo: 07:18:52 outbound would imply I am uploading to them. In my thoughts anyways. It's backwards then! That makes more sense. 07:20:44 I have a bunch of dumb dev questions because I'm trying to detect possible threats. I can't even start without knowing these basics. 07:21:40 Can you "ban" out peers? Other than with firewall... in monerod itself? I had thought so, but I don't see the option in monerod --help 07:23:07 ? 07:24:02 There's a 'ban' command if monerod is open 07:24:06 Type help and you will see it 07:25:21 ah okay, i see it. Thanks dEVBUYNE and Mochi. That'll get me started on more dumb questions lol 07:26:15 As far as I know, this "in" and "out" indication tells you only how the initial connection took place. I would assume that once connected blocks can freely go up and down with each peer, as needed 07:27:02 But it's more probable that those "in" peers will download the blockchain from you because that was their reason to search you and connect: They need blocks 07:28:32 you guys know of a clever way I might be able to differentiate between a monero node's JSON RPC interface and another cryptonote coin's? 07:28:51 That makes sense... but complicates things further. I've no doubt bandwidth goes both ways; but I wish to seed as much as I can. 1Gbps unmetered and I only upload an average ~95 kB/s 07:29:36 \/get_info is the same. is there another interface I could deduce if it's monero or not? 07:30:03 Is the JSON RPC encrypted with TLS/SSL? If not, maybe packet capture looking for "monero" (or whatever) headers in the JSON. 07:30:10 iGotStupidQuesti: Check out limit 07:30:22 limit_in and limit_out 07:30:41 sorry limit_up and limit_down 07:30:50 limit_up is set to default 2 MB/s ... if I set it to 0 (zero) is that unlimited or nothing? 07:31:02 Or i'll just use really big number 07:31:13 this is dedicated monero node server 07:31:42 I think it is kBit/s 07:31:51 so 10000 is 10 MBNit/s 07:32:50 Yes it is. 2048 kB/s, but "print_net_stats" write in MB. limit_up probably wants kB. 07:32:56 Should the in amount of peers increase if someone is using your node for their wallet? 07:33:01 1000000 should be 1 GB/s 07:33:06 https://monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference/ 07:33:56 Somebody only use your node if you make it a public node (I think) otherwise they just synchronize blocks with you 07:34:08 I'll read that link, thanks. Copied. 07:35:53 That brings me another question: does monerod use SSL/TLS when connecting with peers? 07:36:37 tcpdump would probably tell me... but I'm curious more how that works (if it uses encryption.) 07:39:07 lza_menace: Why would you have a problem with other coins' wallets connecting to your daemon in the first place? 07:39:18 :) 07:39:31 And I don't think it's versioned or tagged in any way. Whoever wants can use RPC to get info from your daemon 07:39:33 im building a web app that accepts daemon urls 07:39:53 That could be any tool after all, in Python or whatever 07:40:41 rbrunner: https://github.com/lalanza808/monero-node-lists 07:40:53 im dicking around with a simple web app that accepts node urls 07:40:59 for the purposes of aggregating, sharing 07:41:39 technically any cryptonote node would work 07:42:02 i think im going to send a "get_block" for block 0 and hardcode the expected results 07:42:15 and set a bool....is_monero true or false 07:42:54 Well Monero RPC is usually port 18081, while most other coins use different ports. MoneroOcean's codebase maybe interesting for you @lza_menace 07:43:20 Ah, ok, that's recognition the other way round. Yeah, that block 0 fingerprinting should be reliable, don't have a better idea right now 07:44:20 Now that I'm getting to know about outputs, is it possible and should I attempt to split outputs? 07:45:44 iGotStupidQuesti: assuming ports would be too unreliable, would like something more concrete. i think comparing known block info works for now 07:48:32 That's a good point. 07:49:25 Anybody know if monerod uses some kind of encryption for P2P? I thought it did, but I might be thinking of something else. 07:50:33 I'm not sure how it would trade certs to use TLS... maybe in blockchain or headers? I don't know, this is still new for me. 07:51:07 Tor is an obvious encryption option... but I'm asking about native use. 07:51:36 there is TLS support but I think it's usually turned off 07:52:00 (or maybe that's only available on wallet connections, haven't checked) 07:52:20 Hmmm okay. It seems like it should be turned on... but maybe it has issues. 07:52:40 Hey hyc, if you're hyc-symas on Reddit can you check my post, I'm flagged so I had to edit my old one 07:52:42 hm looks like it's only available for rpc, not p2p 07:53:03 monerointhenude4: I replied to your DM 07:53:16 You were able to see it? 07:53:29 one of them, yes. seems like the others disappeared. 07:53:44 Reddit did not respond to me for an appeal of my flagged account so I'll have to check 07:53:52 anyway, pls reply to my last message 07:54:17 Maybe nobody uses Reddit anymore for these reasons 07:54:26 Also why the turnout was so low 07:55:00 @monerointhenude4 Why Reddit flag account? Not to pry... I'd just make a new account, just need an email I think. 07:55:36 No email required, but funnily enough I did have an email, and it still got flagged 07:55:38 At least they don't require cell phone short code verification... yet :/ 07:55:41 Probably Tor 07:55:52 ah probably yeah 07:56:12 Still no Reddit admin response 07:56:28 somebody could make a reddit blockchain... somebody probably already has, just not popular yet 07:57:44 All the Reddit alternatives have major flaws, they don't allow casual browsing with javascript disabled 07:58:13 oh man... reddit sign-in with usernames, no? somebody could flag you with failed logins from Tor. yikes 07:58:45 That's unfortunate... just need a simple text platform really. Getting people to use it is something else though 07:59:55 I am also curious as to why this contest had little turnout, and the Reddit explanation is the only thing I have 07:59:55 pastebin reddit-style in public blockchain. or maybe forums like simple machine forum with forum posts saved to blocks. I don't know... I'm not a dev. 08:00:38 Also apparently my account isn't flagged, it's just r/Monero karma limits 08:00:54 @monerointhenude4 what contest? If I may ask... it sounds public anyways 08:01:04 But my other personal accounts were able to post as fresh accounts, so I don't know 08:01:16 I was the first CLSAG transaction to a wallet 08:01:26 karma limits? I don't even know about that 08:01:48 Not the blockchain itself, just a wallet 08:01:54 maybe you need to click the ADs more lol jk 08:02:16 i bet reddit likes AD clickers 08:02:47 bitmessage has mailing lists which are pretty nice 08:03:01 "CLSAG" ... heard of it, don't know what it is. is that like new better compression? 08:03:14 I've got stupid in my name for a reason lol 08:04:08 New transaction algorithm, and I guess it is a compression since it's smaller 08:04:21 Oh... another stupid question (hold on) 08:05:07 Why this block have 3.556 fees? https://xmrchain.net/block/2205812 08:05:12 monerointhenude4: I approved your comments by the way 08:05:15 They should be visible now 08:05:22 I saw that 08:05:40 MO mined it awhile back... i like it, but why fee so high for tiny kB TX? 08:05:40 I didn't notice karma limits on my other accounts though 08:06:05 Maybe they wanted it turbo speed 08:06:53 everything fast though... that TX fee just seems insane to me. But I mine at MO so I like it :) 08:06:55 I thought it was kind of a silly thing to message the moderators like that though 08:07:12 What's MO 08:07:24 MoneroOcean (pool) 08:08:21 monerointhenude4: Each subreddit has its own limits, so perhaps it is related to that 08:08:57 I immediately assumed it was Reddit itself because that's usually the issue 08:09:43 I transaction: in/out: 1/2 1.7363 kB ... 3.556 XMR fee. just bizarre. I didn't think you could pay that much for increased speed. it's not a big deal; I just wonder. 08:11:11 @dEBRUYNE you moderate reddit... what do you mean by karma limits? I can just look it up really 08:11:23 i didnt know there were such limits 08:12:04 monerointhenude4: ok, I sent you the wallet seed. enjoy your winnings! 08:12:24 Now I need to get truthturtoise his 0.32 08:14:05 We should also figure out how to get more people to notice next time 08:14:44 Yeah... I don't even know what you are referring too :/ 08:15:10 Also hypothetically, if I was the first CLSAG transaction, and it was 100 blocks away, would I have still won? 08:15:43 yes 08:15:58 pog 08:16:06 the only reason I said there was no winner was because my wallet hadn't refreshed 08:16:16 it only showed me txns up to block 2210000 08:16:54 which was why it was so surprising. usually most of the txns are after the target, not before. 08:17:43 I still don't know where to shoot to end up in 2210000 08:17:59 it's just luck and timing 08:18:04 I tested the transaction time while I was loading up my secondary wallet 08:18:16 And did the same 08:18:43 but 2210001 came like 7 seconds after 2210000 - nobody could have predicted that 08:19:05 Why so fast 08:19:18 because mining is a random process 08:19:19 Is dynamic block size at play? 08:19:30 nobody can predict exactly when the next block is mined 08:19:54 Or did the fork instantly push aside that block 08:19:56 that's what makes the game playable. if it were exact clockwork, there would be no game. 08:20:23 It has a few transactions in it though 08:20:48 they were just leftovers in the pool after 0000 was mined, I suppose 08:20:58 Well, somebody has got some Azure mining or something going again. But timing is still unpredictable 08:21:01 or again, just lucky enough to arrive before 08:21:37 Oh, I just missed some messages due to network errors 08:22:27 I wasn't even responding to you yet it's funnily coherent 08:22:47 would it be possible to mine on a block template in advance of the block and then broadcast it? I guess not; I think you need the previous block's PoW hash, no? 08:23:02 right 08:25:28 iGotStupidQuesti: To prevent spam, comments from users that are below a certain karma limit need to be manually approved by the moderators 08:26:58 oh okay. thanks. 08:27:40 Okay what 08:27:52 I don't know where the funds went 08:28:02 Wallet glitch? 08:30:54 wallet glitch it was 08:31:10 @monerointhenude4 The wallet you won in the contest? I read the contest post on reddit now I get it. Is your node up to sync? 08:31:21 Yes 08:31:34 GUI wallet having issues 08:31:37 sometimes i have to close simplewallet and restart it 08:31:46 But it's the only way to wipe a wallet of funds that I know of 08:32:37 Daemon is busy 08:32:40 Darn 08:33:39 I have another idea 08:33:50 Use a remote node 08:37:39 This is quite the ordeal 08:39:36 Do you run your own node? I was considering putting my node up for public use as a remote node. I want to use it in the best way possible to help the network, but I'm unsure how best to do that. 08:40:14 I run a node in a Qubes VM for a "cold" wallet to use 08:40:44 Which version of the GUI are you using? 08:41:01 The versions before v0.17.1.0 had some issues with transactions getting stuck on pending 08:41:35 I haven't been able to get the new one because Whonix hasn't pushed it to their repository and I think I might just use the official one. 08:42:02 Give me the pgp fingerprint and I'll do it now 08:42:27 This is why I don't really like package managers 08:42:39 "We're going to decentralise everything, but here's all your software in one place" 08:44:08 The transaction has completed 08:45:58 I just build mine from the github codebase... it does take some time to built though. My last build took forever because it built all the test files that I didn't need. I'm not sure how to disable the test build... probably find it in CMakeLists 08:46:27 Qubes is great if you have the hardware for it (enough RAM) 08:46:38 I kind of want to see how the new Gentoo Qubes template works 08:47:10 Qubes, but now with additional source based controls 08:47:53 monerointhenude4: A list of GPG signed hashes is available on the website 08:48:15 ++ for gentoo :). can easily be your own package maintainer when something doesn't get updated 08:48:49 I was looking for extra assurance that the signing key is not compromised 08:53:37 Apparently my node froze 08:54:07 Could be a malicious attack 08:56:32 Morning: Does anyone happen to have a stagenet remote node running via Tor? 08:57:04 @monerointhenude4 Do you have any basis / evidence that it was malicious? This is the kind of stuff I've started looking into, but I don't know how everything works well enough yet. 08:57:16 boldsuck: xmr.to does: https://community.xmr.to/nodes.html 08:57:23 xmrtof3g2rwu6xia.onion:380831 08:57:57 Not really, I was joking, but I heard about something where they can control the nodes and not send you blocks 08:58:00 No I need P2P address 09:01:33 prob 38080 09:01:38 i borked the port in my paste 09:01:41 but look at the first link 09:01:49 XMR.to hosts all these nodes for the community 09:03:23 @lza_menance These are all the RPC addresses. For the wallet to deposit. I'm looking for somep2p.onion:38083 for node peering 09:03:37 ok 09:04:26 I also had this misconception - some pr for getting nodes upgraded would be helpful https://twitter.com/jasmine_plant/status/1317260286580019200 09:06:00 I only find testnet and mainnet P2P onion addresses. Nobody likes stagenet :-( 09:24:08 The xmr.to team has stagenet onions running. I ask them by email. 12:25:16 What can be done with an older "stuck" (2 days) transaction that won't relay? 12:27:05 flush_txpool TXID 12:27:18 sweet 12:27:20 thanks 12:30:18 and then re-relay them? 12:30:59 ah no 12:31:03 ok, they're gone 13:48:26 Good morning :) 13:48:49 Good late afternoon. 13:51:04 Good time of day 13:55:05 so, question. I have deployed a btcpayserver with the Monero extension. Its on exampledomain.com. I want to run a monero block explorer on exampledomain2.com, which is NOT hosted on the same server. Can I use the node on exampledomain.com to feed the data to exampledomain2.com without opening up an avenue for attack on exampledomain.com? My instinct says yes, its possible, but I wanted to make 13:55:06 sure I didnt miss anything obvious before I start wrenching on it 13:56:16 ruhk, yes 13:56:42 ruhk, what're you using the btcpayserver for though? 13:57:32 im using btcpayserver for payment processing for myself and my local community. 13:58:50 im not opposed to running a second node to simplify things if it would be more secure, i was just hoping to avoid the increased hosting fees 13:59:01 Monero has Monerointegrations if you're running Woocommerce or WHMCS or Prestashop 14:01:44 ha. thats actually where i started with my sites. I initially used monerujo w/ ledger. Its only recently that I decided to go full btcpayserver. I did so in order to make available the POS feature of btcpayserver to some local merchants 14:02:45 I see, ok. 14:03:57 so with that said, id like to run a public block explorer, presumably something similar to https://github.com/moneroexamples/onion-monero-blockchain-explorer 14:06:25 i'm not an advanced user so my setup is pretty rudimentary. I wanted to keep my btcpayserver vps isolated on its own so that its a default install so to speak. make tech support easier if needed. 14:08:02 That block explorer is fairly popular. 14:09:59 I want it for 2 reasons. 1, be your own bank , not your keys, trust but verify, etc etc. and 2, I want to contribute back to the monero ecosphere. I dont code, so public access to node resources is my best contribution. 14:11:57 for sure 14:14:09 If you want to make the node available internally without exposing it to the whole internet, you could consider using something like Wireguard to set up a basic VPN between the two different servers running the two different domains (assuming that's your setup) 14:14:53 thats helpful, thank you 14:15:13 And then bind monerod/monero-wallet-rpc to listen for clients on the wg0 interface, making it available to both servers 14:18:10 ok, thanks. that points me in the right direction 14:18:46 You're welcome 14:31:25 Would anyone happen to know why xmrig would give me a linking error like this: `/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++` 14:31:54 it's been puzzling me for some time now since I have stdc++ all installed. The only thing I can think of is maybe it wants a 32 bit package for it 14:32:38 it's not the sort of error one would expect to encounter 14:51:54 marmulak, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30600978/cpp-usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-lnameofthelibrary 14:53:36 Makes sense, but how can Fedora install its own system libraries in a path unknown to the linker. Sounds suspicious. But I'll let you know if I figure it out 15:39:00 What are the hardware requirements for townforge? 15:44:45 Some OpenGL capable machine. MESA's OK (I use it), but will be a bit slow. The game needs like 4 GB RAM for now. 15:49:40 Is that like a Monero thing 15:52:02 A monero fork with a game on top (see ##townforge to talk about it, since it's not monero itself) 15:55:31 Oh damn 15:55:57 I thought we could talk about it here since the faq says Moneromoo got the first town to bootstrap the game 15:56:32 But alright. I wonder if there's a Matrix channel besides #freenode_##townforge:matrix.org 15:56:48 It's a fork I made. The fact it is I doesn't mean I get a free pass others don't :P 15:57:02 A bit of talk is fine I guess. 15:57:13 There's no matrix relay. 15:57:32 Someone's free to add one if they want. 15:58:02 do it 15:58:09 matrix is bae 16:04:35 yeah and it's also the only way anyone using Tor can join the Monero chatroom over Tor without signing up to Freenode over the clearnet 16:20:05 copenhagen_bram[: being able to create an account with nickserv on using only tor is coming to freenode soon(TM) 16:20:30 oh cool 16:20:34 i believe they are designing a PoW system to prevent spam 16:21:04 smort 16:21:35 can I read the blog post or whatever about it? 16:22:52 not sure if it's been properly announced yet 16:24:00 Here's hoping they might use primo/monero ^_^ 16:29:37 what do you mean? 16:29:47 like monero's pow algorithm randomx? 16:30:20 Yes, primo is software that allows a remote server to request hashes from a client before serving the client. 16:30:50 Implemented for apache/firefox, but theoretically can work for other stuff. 16:30:59 oh cool 16:31:05 but why monero's PoW? 16:31:20 Oh, ASIC resistance? 16:31:33 maybe you'll be lucky and find a block for them :) 16:33:11 Ohh, are we talking about Freenode having users mine Monero for them in order to sign up through Tor? 16:34:35 i doubt they will though :( i mentioned randomx but they wanted something to run in the browser 16:35:01 i guess it's not too important here, as they can just disable signups or quickly switch to a different PoW if it gets abused 16:35:03 perks of centralisation :D 16:35:11 Randomx doesn't run in the browser? What happened to coinhive? 16:35:37 i think coinhive died with CryptoNight/R 16:35:38 And it mines on monero. 16:35:38 Using monero's pow allows it to mine on monero, which means the server gets some block reward from time to time. It's kinda micropayments. 16:35:39 That's what I was talking about, but it's unlilely they'll do htat. 16:35:40 Dead AFAIK. 16:35:50 Primo runs a separate binary, with which the Firefox plugin talks. 16:36:12 tevador made another randomx daemon, which coiuld replace that part of primo. 16:36:25 In theory. 16:41:08