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27 Sep 2020

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• 09:45
  Rawat
  (v.17.0) My log is flooded by this. Does it have any influence for mining? [P2P] ERROR txpool src/cryptonote_core/tx_pool.cpp:139 failed to find tx meta
• 17:17
  p3rL
  #16 XMR again <3
• 18:03
  Inge-
  does LEdger support v0.17 yet?
• 18:05
  selsta
  yes
• 18:05
  selsta
  you have to download the newest version and activate developer mode in Ledger live to see 1.7
• 18:06
  selsta
  there will be 1.7.1 soon with some bugfixes
• 18:16
  Inge-
  bah. no 1.7 even with developer mode enabled.
• 18:16
  selsta
  Inge-: there is, sort by alphabet
• 18:21
  Inge-
  not that I can find.
• 18:22
  selsta
  I see it.
• 18:22
  selsta
  usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/F…ot%202020-09-27%20at%2020.22.23.png
• 18:33
  Inge-
  yeah, not there for me for some reason.
• 18:34
  Inge-
  Anything important in 0.17.1 ?
• 18:44
  selsta
  yes, bug and dos fixes
• 18:44
  selsta
  recommended update
• 18:45
  selsta
  security fixes might be more accurate, it’s not exactly DoS
• 18:57
  Inge-
  tagged and waiting on reproducible build hashes?
• 19:04
  selsta
  no waiting on website upload
• 19:06
  Inge-
  nice
• 21:01
  devaux[m]
  Hi :)
• 21:51
  ophi
  Can you make money mining Monero running five Core2Duo systems assuming zero additional power cost, no fancy GPUs nor ASICs, and 6M dyamic-IP DSL?
• 21:52
  devaux[m]
  Mining Monero with CPU works very good
• 21:52
  devaux[m]
  But Core2Duo...
• 21:53
  devaux[m]
  But when you don't have to pay for electricity, you could get some Hs
• 21:53
  ophi
  I have a few 8 year+ old Xeon systems
• 21:53
  ophi
  But a lot of Core2Duo
• 21:53
  devaux[m]
  Better... but
• 21:53
  ophi
  Hs?
• 21:53
  devaux[m]
  Hashs
• 21:54
  ophi
  Think it's worth doing (it
• 21:54
  devaux[m]
  With actual CPUs you can get really good reward. GPUs or ASICs don't have any advantage in the Monero world
• 21:54
  ophi
  's an 8+ hour round trip to the data center and a $30/mo bandwidth fee)?
• 21:54
  devaux[m]
  Yeah, just try it. load xmrig and start mining
• 21:55
  ophi
  What do you think it will bring in?
• 21:55
  manifest
  free computers and electricity = free monero
• 21:55
  manifest
  not much
• 21:55
  devaux[m]
  Hmm. If you can use the bandwith for other things, too it could be worth
• 21:55
  manifest
  few thousand hashes/s since no aes in those i bet
• 21:56
  manifest
  .mine 4000
• 21:56
  devaux[m]
  But i doubt that you will get 0.3 XMR with 6 Core2Duo in a month
• 21:56
  manifest
  oh yeah this isn't pools lel
• 21:56
  ophi
  Do I need to join a pool to make it work financially?
• 21:56
  devaux[m]
  Yes, this for sure
• 21:56
  manifest
  without a pool it's like you're playing the lottery
• 22:01
  ophi
  So, at last price, you're talking around $357 per year?
• 22:01
  devaux[m]
  No
• 22:01
  devaux[m]
  I was talking about your costs of $360 a year
• 22:02
  devaux[m]
  And i don't think you will get 3 XMR a year to cover these costs
• 22:02
  ophi
  I did .3 XMR/mo * 12 months * $99.33
• 22:02
  devaux[m]
  That's why i asked you if you could use the bandwith for other things, too
• 22:03
  devaux[m]
  With 6x Core2Duo?
• 22:03
  ophi
  I could mine another altcoin, I could maybe run a masternode (but the buy in can be pretty nasty)
• 22:04
  ophi
  I am also open to suggestion
• 22:04
  ophi
  If not 3 XMR/year, what do you think it might be? Would I do better in a pool?
• 22:05
  devaux[m]
  There are coins where you can share decentralized storage. Not sure if this pays out and is worth the work to change disks when they get broken
• 22:06
  devaux[m]
  You HAVE to be in a pool. Else you won't get anything within the next 10 years
• 22:06
  ophi
  I've heard storage is a bust
• 22:10
  devaux[m]
  Anyway. Time to sleep. Wish you a good night :)
• 22:11
  ophi
  So, it sounds like at best I would break even.
• 22:12
  ophi
  Even with no added cost power.
• 22:12
  ophi
  Bummer
• 22:12
  ophi
  Thanks!
• 22:14
  devaux[m]
  Yeah. Mining isn't easy these days. But when you have a decent CPU, Monero is what you want to mine
• 22:15
  ophi
  Would the Xeon fare better? I have a roughly 5 year old Xeon server, didn't really want to use it for that, but I could.
• 22:16
  devaux[m]
  My suggestion
• 22:16
  devaux[m]
  Set the XEON up with xmrig and look how much Hs you get
• 22:16
  ophi
  How long would I need to run it to know?
• 22:17
  devaux[m]
  With 5500Hs i get about 1.1 XMR a month
• 22:18
  devaux[m]
  Maybe one or two hours
• 22:18
  devaux[m]
  A few seconds if you want to know apx
• 22:18
  ophi
  Can you virtualize xmrig using VirtualBox or KVM, or does it need to be bare hardware?
• 22:19
  devaux[m]
  When your Hardware supports Virtualization you can
• 22:19
  devaux[m]
  But your Core2Duo won't i guess
• 22:19
  Inge-
  1.1 XMR/month with 5500Hs?
• 22:19
  devaux[m]
  But why do you want this?
• 22:19
  Inge-
  That sounds ... optimistic
• 22:20
  ophi
  Don't need it for the core2duo, but hate to kill my only late model server
• 22:20
  devaux[m]
  It's what i get
• 22:20
  devaux[m]
  Oh, sorry
• 22:20
  devaux[m]
  55000Hs
• 22:20
  Inge-
  that sounds more reasonable :)
• 22:20
  devaux[m]
  * With 55000Hs i get about 1.1 XMR a month
• 22:21
  devaux[m]
  Corrected ;)
• 22:22
  devaux[m]
  I think with a decent 5 years old Xeon you will get between 1000 and 2000 Hs
• 22:23
  devaux[m]
  Except it's kind of Gold-rated CPU
• 22:23
  ophi
  so maybe .3 XMR/mo
• 22:23
  ophi
  which is back to about $360/year
• 22:24
  devaux[m]
  More like 0.05-0.1
• 22:24
  ophi
  So $100/year. Doesn't seem worthwhile.
• 22:24
  devaux[m]
  But who knows. Maybe next year 0.1 XMR are $1000 ;)
• 22:27
  devaux[m]
  I started mining XMR back in 2017 with a few CPUs in spare time. Got 1-2 XMR a week without any effort
• 22:27
  devaux[m]
  But i could make maybe 10-20 a week if i believed in the potential
• 22:28
  devaux[m]
  So. It's always about the point of view
• 22:28
  devaux[m]
  * But i could have made maybe 10-20 a week if i believed in the potential
• 22:30
  devaux[m]
  Ah
• 22:30
  devaux[m]
  I wanted to go to sleep
• 22:30
  devaux[m]
  Good night
• 22:30
  ophi
  Yeah, sorry to keep you, thanks for the input. Goodnight.
• 22:30
  devaux[m]
  o/