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ForeverNoob[m]
for some reason Model T was 150 EUR and now it's 180 :S
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ForeverNoob[m]
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ForeverNoob[m]
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selsta
both ledger and trezor are probably not 100% secure with physical access
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selsta
the goal is to guard against potential malware on your computer I think
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ForeverNoob[m]
in a way that's true, but if physical attack takes long enough and perhaps even costs a lot too, then you would minimize the risk of being compromised before taking countermeasures.
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gingeropolous
so whats it gonna take to get a ringsize bump
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gingeropolous
ok. here we go c++. time to make all the sense to me.
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gingeropolous
#define HF_VERSION_MIN_MIXIN_10 8
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gingeropolous
ok, so this value is set to 8.
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gingeropolous
maybe
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gingeropolous
and then this thing..
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gingeropolous
const size_t min_mixin = hf_version >= HF_VERSION_MIN_MIXIN_10 ? 10
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gingeropolous
so we've got a constant being made with size_t and we're calling it min mixin, which ..... is equal to hf version and then who wants some syntax
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gingeropolous
oh well, there's an actual mixin. if (((hf_version == HF_VERSION_MIN_MIXIN_10 || hf_version == HF_VERSION_MIN_MIXIN_10+1) && min_actual_mixin != 10) || (hf_version >= HF_VERSION_MIN_MIXIN_10+2 && min_actual_mixin > 10))
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gingeropolous
i wonder if that syntax translates to "making a constant (something with size_t, seems irrelevant to me, dunno why) called min_mixin and if hf_version is >= HF_VERSION_MIN_MIXIN_!) it will be 10
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gingeropolous
yeah thats prolly it.
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Infinity8
72 blocks in past 90 minutes on Monerod
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Infinity8
wtf does that mean
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gingeropolous
it means monerod ran some stats and thinks that 72 blocks is out of the normal range
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gingeropolous
for the 90 minute window
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gingeropolous
which would make sense because (72*2 = 144 ) > (2 min * 45 blocks = 90 mins)
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gingeropolous
are u syncing a new node?
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gingeropolous
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gingeropolous
so do we goto ringsize 13 or straight to 17
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gingeropolous
are we gonna be stuperstitious and avoid 13? Or go ahead with 13 because thats silly and 13 used to have superstitions on the other side of the spectrum
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gingeropolous
thats the real reason we haven't walked up the primes yet with the ringsize
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nioc
I believe that the 13 superstition no longer is active
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gingeropolous
well if we haven't bumped it to 13 by the time we get to Aluminum Andromeda then im doin it
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gingeropolous
nah fuckit, even better!
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nioc
gingercoin
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gingeropolous
lets just bump it based on the atomic weight of the element
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nioc
also....
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nioc
w0w
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gingeropolous
so oxygen orion gets 16 ringmembers
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gingeropolous
and fluorine gets 19
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lza_menace
yo fellas - can someone help me understand the concerns mentioned here?
github.com/lalanza808/MoneroPy#disclaimer
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lza_menace
is this concern only valid if seed generation is being done on a machine that another person has access to?
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gingeropolous
thats what it sounds like, but im no expert
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gingeropolous
i guess because its pure python and its open source, other people could run the code and learn the electromagnetic radiation signature it creates and then be able to reverse it
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Infinity8
gingeropolous: No, this is an active node
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MrMadium
Hi all - quick question. I've downloaded the blockchain onto my windows system. If I wanted to add it onto another system, say, tails, is it as simple and overwriting the lmdb in tails with the one that I have downloaded on Windows?
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artefact
that disclaimer is probably spectre-related. if you don't control other processes on the (bare) machine, you will be vulnerable to side channel attacks
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artefact
probably moot anyway since you're already vulnerable to an evil admin just dumping keys from memory
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dEBRUYNE
MrMadium: Yes, the blockchain file is compatible across different operating systems
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MrMadium
Thank you dEBRUYNE
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moneromooo
gingeropolous: yes, a>b?x:y means x if a>b else y.
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gingeropolous
how much stuff would break if i changed those numbers
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gingeropolous
i guess its too late for oxygen because the deterministic builds are out
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gingeropolous
and it couldn't live in master because people expect master to work with mainnet
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ErCiccione[m]
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ErCiccione[m]
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fluffypony
tks ErCiccione[m]
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gingeropolous
oh jeez. i made a 39 gig bitmonero.log
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gingeropolous
and it seems to be when i started carbon chamelon in may. 2020-05-26 19:29:54.621 7effbd354780 INFO global src/daemon/main.cpp:271 Monero 'Carbon Chamaeleon' (v0.15.0.5-17ec003c0)
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algo_max[m]
I'd like to run a monero node but my current ISP seems to block incoming connections / ports. Is there any way around that? How useful is it to run a node without incoming connections? Somewhere I read that such a node cannot be used to download the blockchain, but it can still be used to forward transactions. How useful is this to the network compared to sharing the blockchain?
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moneromooo
I can be used to download the chain, but only if you happen to connect to a node that happens to need it.
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moneromooo
It's more useful than not having a node overall.
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moneromooo
If your ISP blocks incoming connections, you could ask for a refund I guess.
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moneromooo
It's like renting a flat and finding the toilet door's locked with a key you don't have.
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moneromooo
Or you could make doubly sure this is the case, and not you having some firewall that's blocking them, or not having setup your router properly :)
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artefact
yeah very unlikely that your isp is blocking incoming ports- except maybe smtp. look at your router and/or proxies
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Mochi101
probable a direct connection to the ISP
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artefact
you can also use i2p, afaik it will try to do udp hole punching. but that won't be used for relaying blocks
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Infinity8
did you forward your router ports?
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Infinity8
Anyone use Hexchat?
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moneromooo
And route your forward ports ?
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Mochi101
I do
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Infinity8
My nickname is highlighted on this channel only
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Infinity8
how do I toggle it on other channels as well Mochi101 ?
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Mochi101
Should be automatic.
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Infinity8
Well it's literally on #monero only for some reason
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Mochi101
just sent you a message in pools...
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algo_max[m]
Many mobile internet providers block incoming ports here.. we'll switch to fiber when the contract expires.. then I'll have incoming ports, but it's still 6 months.. :/
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algo_max[m]
I think I've set up the port forwarding and firewall correctly because I can connect to the node when I enter the router's internal IP address. But connections get a timeout when they go to the external IP address (packets seem to be filtered/denied, not rejected.. which looks like a firewall / ISP's filter?).
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Infinity8
pinging #hexchat
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Quotes
pong
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Infinity8
ping of death
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Quotes
pong
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algo_max[m]
I'll have to read up on i2p, seems interesting
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Infinity8
Yeah mobile providers are restrictive as fuck
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moneromooo
Are they at least cheaper ?
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artefact
can it still be called an "IS"P? it's like giving you envelopes but no mailbox of your own
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algo_max[m]
Cheaper then fiber? Yes, it's about 0.3 moneros a month for 40 Mbit/sec and unlimited data.. fiber will cost at least twice, but also be faster.
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nakedpony
monero <3 > market price
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nakedpony
wtc
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nakedpony
wtf
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artefact
you can't put a price on listen(3)
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algo_max[m]
Actually the only reason we use mobile is because it was the only way to get internet here so far because we're kinda far off civilization. Been quite lucky to get a fiber connection here soon :)
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RomanS[m]
probably you can do udp punchhole for bypass isp firewall
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algo_max[m]
umm how'd udp hole punching help? doesn't monerod use tcp?
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artefact
not necessarily over i2p
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dsc_
SMTP blocked by ISP ... the refund will be "$price / 65535" :P
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moneromooo
Damn. Foiled again.
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artefact
if only you could only ask for port 443 and pay 1/65535th of the price
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dsc_
+ only TCP and IPv4 for more discounts :)
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yanmaani
algo_max[m]: You probably have CGNAT. If so, you would have to ask the carrier for a static IP.
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algo_max[m]
Is project Kovri still the way to go for i2p or something else? Its last commit was 8 months ago. Can you recommend some guide that shows how to set up monerod with i2p?
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moneromooo
There's a README for it IIRC.
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dsc_
algo_max[m]: try i2p-zero
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artefact
afaik the usual way is to run the full i2p node or i2p-zero
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artefact
though we're talking less than a dozen nodes
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artefact
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moneromooo
Almost: ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md
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moneromooo
I keep telling myself I should run one but never took the time...
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artefact
the guide also works for vanilla i2p to some extent
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artefact
you already run a .onion node iirc?
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algo_max[m]
thanks, I'll give i2p-zero a try. Looks a bit complicated, guess I should have asked for a Dockerfile, not for a README :p
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Infinity8
Mobile provider is good in places that have shit fibre (Australian NBN)
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Elon_Sat0shi
how do people who want to stay anonymous by using tor reach the monero community? Freenode requires that you create an account over the clearnet in order to log in via tor
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trashpanda[m]
You can use a VPN or proxy to create your freenode account, and then use TOR from then on. Mullvad VPN accepts crypto and is affordable for only a short duration.
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trashpanda[m]
Not ideal, but its not terrible IMO
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gingeropolous
blue calx is so good
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tombradyontap[m]
has anyone on here updated their Qubes monerod-ws to 17.0?