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samarth99
hi
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samarth99
can anynone tell me how to earn or buy monero
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Mochi101
samarth99, you can mine it.. or you can buy it from places like localmonero.co or a proper exchange
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Mochi101
Depends on your situation.
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Mochi101
You can earn it by making a proposal on the community funding system and hoping people like it and fund you.
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samarth99
Mochi101, Thanks
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Steven_M
Hi, what's the maximum ring size you can set these days?
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strike
12
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strike
it's also the minimum
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Steven_M
strike: oh, if it's 12 no matter what, what's the ring_size option for in the transfer command then?
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strike
its outdated and doesnt do anything
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boldsuck
samarth99 you can trade BTC/XMR on bisq anonym
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Steven_M
strike: okay thanks :-)
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Just a little nitpicking: Current Monero consensus ringsize is 11, not 12. That's 1 (your true spend) plus 10 decoys.
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moneromooo
It does do something. You need it if you want to spend old outputs where you don't have >= 10 others on the chain.
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Mochi101
Are there any best practices for keeping outputs "fresh" ?
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fluffypony
consume within 7 days of opening, else try freezing them
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fluffypony
best served with a crisp Chardonnay
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Steven_M
moneromooo: I'm not good at understanding outputs, how do you know if you have old outputs fitting that criteria?
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Steven_M
fluffypony: LOL :-)
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Steven_M
Mochi101: I think you're suppose to send your own XMR to yourself a few times to freshen outputs, but I could be getting different concepts muddled together.
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moneromooo
It'll tell you it can't find enough outs.
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Mochi101
Steven_M, yeah that's churning.
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Steven_M
moneromooo: okay, thanks. :-)
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Steven_M
Mochi101: in your quetion were you asking about
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Steven_M
Mochi101: in your quetion were you asking about churning, or did I misunderstand?
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Mochi101
Maybe I didn't state my question quite right.
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Mochi101
It's probably not important.
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Mochi101
Pretty much every time I try to spend XMR I get the "at least one old output" warning.
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moneromooo
Hmm. It should only complain when it's >= 2.
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Mochi101
recent update moneromooo ?
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moneromooo
What are you asking about a recent update ?
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Mochi101
A change from one old output warning to two/
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moneromooo
I don't know. If this changed so, then it's good.
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Steven_M
Mochi101: does churning not help?
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Mochi101
Maybe if you choose your own outputs to spend.
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Mochi101
but when you have >500 outputs in your wallet there is a lot for it to randomly choose from when you do go to spend.
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Steven_M
Mochi101: I'm stumped. What should Mochi101 do moneromooo?
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moneromooo
If spending more than one, I'd self-spend one of them first. Otherwise, nothing.
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Mochi101
839 unspent outputs in my wallet... oldest one going back to 1826500...
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Mochi101
and one that has a lot more txs on it still has an output going back to 1929900
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Mochi101
Does it just pick a random one to spend moneromooo ?
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Mochi101
Wouldn't it be best if it automatically tried to spend the oldest output that most closely matched the amount of the tx?
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moneromooo
Maybe. There's a huge amount of wouldn't it be best.
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Mochi101
hehehe
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Mochi101
yeah :)
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Mochi101
You think there's a need for people to know how to prepare a wallet for "rapid" transaction volume and it not to get locked?
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moneromooo
I know many people moan when they have to wait.
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Mochi101
A "How to selectively break outputs into more outputs" tutorial sort of thing?
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moneromooo
There is at least one of those on monero.stackechange.com.
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Mochi101
is there?
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moneromooo
That question is hard to answer non sarcastically.
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Mochi101
You know you can always be sarcastic with me.
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moneromooo
That reply was in itself sarcastic.
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moneromooo
Oh I missed a x this time, not a d. My keyboard's d key sucks since a couple days ago.
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Mochi101
searching for something on monero.staxexchange.com but... hmm
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Mochi101
er
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Mochi101
you know the URL
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moneromooo
And you put too much x. Balances I guess.
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moneromooo
Anyway, boils down to adding a number (amount of outputs to create) somewhere in the transfer command. help transfer should show where.
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Mochi101
I was thinking of a tutorial on sweep_single and why/how it's useful.
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moneromooo
Or not useful. It's not clear how best to use it.
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Mochi101
So if you are preparing a new wallet for your online casino and expect a lot of action... you send a fresh 20 XMR to the new wallet and then use sweep_single to break up the single output in the new wallet into smaller outputs so that your wallet is never locked.
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Mochi101
Can be other services too... obviously.
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Mochi101
anywhere where you might have to send XMR to people
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Mochi101
probably beyond what most people will want to do with their wallet though
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Steven_M
Goodnight all. :-)
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jbg
apart from r/monero, what are some good places to announce a service that has recently added monero support?
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selsta
jbg: message rehrar to get it added to
revuo-monero.com
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moneromooo
Here would be fine I guess.
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selsta
also the getmonero links to a lot of services
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jbg
thanks, i'll contact revuo-monero and getmonero
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asymptotically
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jbg
thanks!
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dEBRUYNE
jbg: You can freely announce on r/monero, yes
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Mochi101
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