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fluffypony
I like Apollo on iOS too
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streamerx[m]
Here's a client for Ethereum and Dash for mining bandwidth in a mesh network. Is Monero planning to add bandwidth mining to stay in the game?
github.com/althea-net
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rdymac
!later streamerx[m], dash? I don’t think it “mines”. User puts ETH, Dai, xDai in their balance of their Althea-Mesh router, other Althea-Mesh router relayers sell data/bandwidth to the user. Maybe you mean the relayer “is mining” by providing the relay service
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rdymac
We at Locha Mesh are looking into adding RPC-Pay for users to pay other nodes for services (remote monerod, Internet gateway, Electrum Server...), so Monero will stay in te game for sure :)
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Mr_Doge
exit
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KrishnAncap[m]
hi
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KrishnAncap[m]
I wonder if btc could override xmr usefulness with ln and Wasabi wallet
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KrishnAncap[m]
even if these are not as perfect as monero for privacy
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KrishnAncap[m]
the big network btc has would offset this disadvantage
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endor00[m]
<KrishnAncap[m] "the big network btc has would of"> In terms of marketing? Maybe.
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KrishnAncap[m]
yeah but btc is safer and much bigger. that'd offset the lower technical quality issue
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KrishnAncap[m]
if it gets big adoption then it will even increase btc fungability
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moneromooo
I wonder if meat could be as healthy as vegetables if it had less meat and more vegetables.
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endor00[m]
"Btc is safer" [citation needed]
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KrishnAncap[m]
about cost of 51% attack
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KrishnAncap[m]
1k monero nodes vs 100k btc nodes
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KrishnAncap[m]
999999kpeta mining rate for btc
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asymptotically
nodes don't matter when it comes to a 51% attack. but all of the energy going to buttcoin miners does :)
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KrishnAncap[m]
vs 1kbhertz for monero hashrate
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KrishnAncap[m]
btc is safer no?
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asymptotically
yes, but you should compare energy and not hashes per second
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endor00[m]
I'd rather compare hardware availability
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KrishnAncap[m]
well then I'm still right when I say Bitcoin of safer, which is obvious... sorry all altcoiners
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KrishnAncap[m]
but get to admit the obvious truth. why do I even need to argue about it
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endor00[m]
Bigger bottleneck than energy consumption
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endor00[m]
"KrishnAncap" (
matrix.to/#/@oui:converser.eu) different algorithms run at different speeds, you can't just compare the number of hashes per second
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endor00[m]
Also centralization: more than 50% of btc hashrate is located in China. So if the Chinese government decided to take over btc they could do that fairly easily
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fullmetalScience
moneromooo hehe
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endor00[m]
And from that point of view, btc is a lot less secure than Monero (and a few others too)
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fullmetalScience
KrishnAncap: LN isn't Bitcoin
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d4ndo[m]
I suppose the safest move would be to divesty.
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d4ndo[m]
Lets say you have $100 million. Put 20 million in Monero, 50 million in Bitcoin, et cetera.
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hyc
bitcoin fails on decentralization and uncensorability
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hyc
at least - it fails on other counts too
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fullmetalScience
"Diversify!" is usually the suggestion of those who have no clue and don't want to be responsible for your loss :)
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fullmetalScience
(thinking crypto-youtubers here)
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d4ndo[m]
fullmetalScience: I don't have any money to diversify anyway. XD
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fullmetalScience
No worries. They don't either.
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fullmetalScience
XD