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Psynthax
21:00 Psynthax: hi, can somebody track bav transaction, I had 5 bsv stolen by croatian government stealing backup from me with brain-computer-interface?
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jwinterm
lolwat
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Psynthax
yes
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Psynthax
I have txid to proove it
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newyearday
can u give some more tech details
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Psynthax
yes, in the brain works electro-chemically
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Psynthax
and they can inject and pick up electrical signals in the brain using electro-magnetism
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Psynthax
wireless electricity
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Psynthax
wifi is also wireless electricity
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yanmaani
why does this channel always attract kooks?
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jwinterm
gonna assume it's your own fault for not wearing lead helmet
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yanmaani
I thought tinfoil was the industry standard
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Psynthax
I tried with metal pottery, does not work hahaha
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Psynthax
in 2014
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newyearday
croatian government not the usual stuff cia,mosad etc
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newyearday
strange
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Psynthax
when I went into political ideology of capitalism.. anarcho-capitalsm
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newyearday
expensive operation this one
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moneromooo
Tinfoil's used so much, all major manufacturers were compromised. What you buy now is not proper tinfoil, but a very fine mesh of metal that works as an antenna and essentially does the opposite of the protective effect you expect from proper tinfoil.
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Psynthax
communist gov of croatia does not like capitalism
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newyearday
yea they are german branch
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yanmaani
don't you mean cheap? they couldn't afford the a-listers so they had to use southeast european countries instead
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moneromooo
You're all in luck though. To counter this, I offer this new ICO for a company that makes proper tinfoil! Be the first to invest, etc, etc!
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moneromooo
It would be so easy to milk suckers. Frightening.
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moneromooo
To counter this, I offer this new presidental election candidate who takes proper care of people. Be the first to vote!
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moneromooo
Wait. I shouldn't joke about this. The alternative is even worse...
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nioc
<3
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newyearday
5bsv < 1000usd
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newyearday
Psynthax why to stole < 1000usd from u
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newyearday
if they have this tech is better for them to go to moneromooo
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Psynthax
can anybody track bsv to get to persons id?
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newyearday
how btw how to copy address from cli
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Psynthax
win?
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newyearday
yes if u dont use wallet from tor yes
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Psynthax
click on the upper left icon of command prompt
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Psynthax
the menu will pop up
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newyearday
no linux sorry
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newyearday
no gui
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newyearday
moneromooo is a way to copy address from cli?
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newyearday
no gui
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moneromooo
Hmm. Depends on OS. For me, select with left mouse button, then middle click wherever else.
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moneromooo
For Windows, IIRC you have to enable something in some menu.
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jwinterm
I think newer windows you can just just ctrl+c
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selsta
It also works in Windows 10 these days
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jwinterm
after highlighting
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selsta
yep
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jwinterm
but you can also use the little box at top left of window
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jwinterm
for older windows
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jwinterm
highlight, click box to open menu, click copy
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newyearday
linux
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newyearday
no gui at all
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newyearday
or if i can save address in text file
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jwinterm
it used to generate a text file called address.txt I think
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jwinterm
you can start wallet in rpc mode though
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jwinterm
and then make rpc calls to get address or subaddress or whatever
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jwinterm
and send to text file or whever else
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newyearday
im not used with rpc
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jwinterm
./monero-wallet-rpc --help
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jwinterm
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selsta
jwinterm: for privacy reasons it only creates address.txt for testnet/stagenet
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newyearday
so there is not smth
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newyearday
no solution only gui!
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jwinterm
rpc is exactly the solution you are looking for
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jwinterm
or just start wallet program inside another program and dump stdout to text file or something
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jwinterm
but that would probably be more complicated
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moneromooo
You can run monero-wallet-cli --wallet-file /path/to/file address
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moneromooo
(replace /path/to/file with actual path)
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jwinterm
or that
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moneromooo
But then you gotta copy it from the tty :) So... redirect ?
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newyearday
works but need one enter
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newyearday
|tail -1|awk '{print $2}'
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newyearday
how to insert enter
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moneromooo
Ah yes. You're going to have that problen quite often. Enter is needed after a terminal command for most terminal software.
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newyearday
i just pres enter and works...
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newyearday
thnx really
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newyearday
what other arg i can insert except address there
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moneromooo
Any command you can use in the interactive wallet shell.
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moneromooo
You might have to properly quote things for multi word commands or characters your shell might interpret, etc.
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newyearday
yea but works
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newyearday
is more easy than rpc i think
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modul8[m]
you needed foil impants
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moneromooo
Foil in pants ?
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yugyug
.price eur
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feeeeees
Hey! Is there a way to calculate the fee of a transaction, before I do the transaction ? (No need to be 100% specific though)
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feeeeees
Some estimate would be really nice to have
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lmt_
Hey my client stopped synchronising and is now spamming "Consistency failure in m_blocks_hash_check construction", what does that mean?
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moneromooo
That means a very rare bug :o
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lmt_
Restarting the client fixes it for another 10 hours
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moneromooo
Please paste the output of "sync_info" to some paste site.
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lmt_
I'm on armv8
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moneromooo
You got it more than once ?
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lmt_
Yes
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lmt_
I actually stopped the daemon now
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moneromooo
Also run set_log +blockchain:DEBUG
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lmt_
Ok I'll come back with a log once I get the error again
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moneromooo
Then wait for it to happen, and once it does, paste the last thousand lines from hte log please.
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TrasherDK1
When "talking" to wallet-rpc, I get A LOT of "T Moving counter buffer by 1 second". Is there a "--log-level" that will allow me to filter out all the "net.throttle" stuff ?
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moneromooo
The default.
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moneromooo
(0)
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moneromooo
It should only start appearing at 2, so if you really want 2 for some reason, you can use 2,net.throttle:ERROR
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TrasherDK1
Okay. That did work for throttle. I guess level 2 is too low to get the net.http stuff which is what I'm looking for. "net.
http:TRACE" ?
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moneromooo
TRACE is violent. It gets you typically useless stuff unless you're really lost, as well as massive data dumps.
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moneromooo
net.
http:DEBUG will usually get you all the interesting debug stuff.
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moneromooo
But 2 is debug.
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TrasherDK1
This "HTTP_RESPONSE_HEAD: << " is the level I'm looking for. level 3 I believe.
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TrasherDK1
I'm still on authentication level :-[
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moneromooo
OK, then this does need trace. What is your exact log setting ?
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moneromooo
And are you sure the code is going round that place ? :)
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TrasherDK1
--log-level '2,net.throttle:ERROR,net.http:TRACE' seems to be the sweet spot.
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TrasherDK1
Is there a setting that will show me the JSON data ?
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TrasherDK1
Yes. Authorization is in "net.http;TRACE' => authorization: Digest username="rpc_user", realm="monero-rpc", nonce="pvSjOhZF2jHCFiBwJliK+A==", uri="/json_rpc", qop=auth, response="0ac02de8f06ff52d4ed26b0abdb92d5b", nc=00000001, cnonce="43accc67f7354df3bc214b2ff4ca65bb", algorithm=MD5-sess
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fibonacci
Wow the fake economy is doing spectacular today!
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asymptotically
fibonacci: which fake economy are you talking about?
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asymptotically
both of them?
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fibonacci
traditional markets are killin it. must be all the job creation.
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Inge-
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charolastra
non-fractional reserve banking sounds great
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Inge-
would that be non-fractional reserve, or non-reserve?
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charolastra
non-reserver obviously as they never had full reserve
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TrasherDK1
Won't they get a shitload of division by zero errors?
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charolastra
good question
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squidbass
nicks
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needmonero90
TrasherDK just make the number super small
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needmonero90
Don't hit zero, if you need more mun muns, just lower it more
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while
I read that sometimes transactions are 'disputed' why does the sender sending the tx key to the intended recipient prove payment?
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Mochi101
while, it just allows the person to look up the transaction in a block explorer
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moneromooo
Because if you could not prove you send something, the recipient could claim never to have got the monero, and scam the sender.
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Mochi101
To really prove it they'd send a "payment proof" which would allow the recipient to see the details of the transaction rather than just that "it may have happened"
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moneromooo
Well, scam with plausible deniability.
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Mochi101
because I could send any tx id from a previous block and it'd look the same as any other if you can't see the details
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Mochi101
You really need the payment proof.
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dEBRUYNE
You're conflating the (private) transaction key with the transaction hash / ID
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dEBRUYNE
^ Mochi101
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while
what happens if you try to spend monero you think you have but dont?
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moneromooo
Then I guess you'll think you spend it, but won't :)
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while
so you wouldn't know if you spent it or not?
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moneromooo
That depends on why you think you have it I suppose.
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moneromooo
Are you hallucinating you have monero ? Did someone claim to have sent you monero ? Is a node sending you fake blocks that look like you got monero ? Othe r?
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while
like I know bitcoin has a getbalance command, I was thinking there was a monero equivilent that would reveal if you have funds or not
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moneromooo
So you mean... if the wallet has a bug and reports a wrong balance ?
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while
not quite, I was reading sometimes people dispute receiving a payment in monero, as the sender wouldn't you know whether or not you sent them monero?
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Mochi101
ah yes dEBRUYNE
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moneromooo
In that case, the most likely is that it thinks it owns an output it does not known. Then all would work till the tx gets to a node. The node will then reject the tx for not being signed by he owner's key.
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Mochi101
I read tx hash...
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Mochi101
my bad
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moneromooo
Whether the recipient knows or not they've been sent some monero is irrelevant from the network's perspective.
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moneromooo
The recipient can derive the secret key for the new output, whether or not they refreshed their wallet since it was created.
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moneromooo
If they did not see the incoming monero (can happen if you have a wrong refresh height, say), they just won't see that output.
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moneromooo
But then it's the opposite of triyng to esnd monero you tihnk you have. It's not sending some monero you have but don't think you have.