00:05:48 <Psynthax> 21:00 Psynthax: hi, can somebody track bav transaction, I had 5 bsv stolen by croatian government stealing backup from me with brain-computer-interface?
00:24:42 <jwinterm> lolwat
00:30:32 <Psynthax> yes
00:30:57 <Psynthax> I have txid to proove it
00:32:07 <newyearday> can u give some more tech details
00:33:25 <Psynthax> yes, in the brain works electro-chemically
00:33:55 <Psynthax> and they can inject and pick up electrical signals in the brain using electro-magnetism
00:34:02 <Psynthax> wireless electricity
00:34:16 <Psynthax> wifi is also wireless electricity
00:34:59 <yanmaani> why does this channel always attract kooks?
00:35:08 <jwinterm> gonna assume it's your own fault for not wearing lead helmet
00:35:21 <yanmaani> I thought tinfoil was the industry standard
00:35:45 <Psynthax> I tried with metal pottery, does not work hahaha
00:36:01 <Psynthax> in 2014
00:36:24 <newyearday> croatian government not the usual stuff cia,mosad etc
00:36:28 <newyearday> strange
00:36:36 <Psynthax> when I went into political ideology of capitalism.. anarcho-capitalsm
00:36:45 <newyearday> expensive operation this one
00:36:55 <moneromooo> Tinfoil's used so much, all major manufacturers were compromised. What you buy now is not proper tinfoil, but a very fine mesh of metal that works as an antenna and essentially does the opposite of the protective effect you expect from proper tinfoil.
00:36:56 <Psynthax> communist gov of croatia does not like capitalism
00:37:23 <newyearday> yea they are german branch
00:37:27 <yanmaani> don't you mean cheap? they couldn't afford the a-listers so they had to use southeast european countries instead
00:38:11 <moneromooo> You're all in luck though. To counter this, I offer this new ICO for a company that makes proper tinfoil! Be the first to invest, etc, etc!
00:38:34 <moneromooo> It would be so easy to milk suckers. Frightening.
00:39:22 <moneromooo> To counter this, I offer this new presidental election candidate who takes proper care of people. Be the first to vote!
00:39:47 <moneromooo> Wait. I shouldn't joke about this. The alternative is even worse...
00:39:49 <nioc> <3
00:40:25 <newyearday> 5bsv < 1000usd
00:40:46 <newyearday> Psynthax why to stole < 1000usd from u
00:42:13 <newyearday> if they have this tech is better for them to go to moneromooo
00:44:05 <Psynthax> can anybody track bsv to get to persons id?
00:44:05 <newyearday> how btw how to copy address from cli
00:44:25 <Psynthax> win?
00:44:44 <newyearday> yes if u dont use wallet from tor yes
00:44:50 <Psynthax> click on the upper left icon of command prompt
00:44:57 <Psynthax> the menu will pop up
00:45:00 <newyearday> no linux sorry
00:45:11 <newyearday> no gui
00:46:09 <newyearday> moneromooo is a way to copy address from cli?
00:46:14 <newyearday> no gui
00:46:51 <moneromooo> Hmm. Depends on OS. For me, select with left mouse button, then middle click wherever else.
00:47:13 <moneromooo> For Windows, IIRC you have to enable something in some menu.
00:47:29 <jwinterm> I think newer windows you can just just ctrl+c
00:47:32 <selsta> It also works in Windows 10 these days
00:47:32 <jwinterm> after highlighting
00:47:34 <selsta> yep
00:47:41 <jwinterm> but you can also use the little box at top left of window
00:47:44 <jwinterm> for older windows
00:47:55 <jwinterm> highlight, click box to open menu, click copy
00:48:43 <newyearday> linux
00:48:47 <newyearday> no gui at all
00:49:14 <newyearday> or if i can save address in text file
00:50:03 <jwinterm> it used to generate a text file called address.txt I think
00:50:17 <jwinterm> you can start wallet in rpc mode though
00:50:30 <jwinterm> and then make rpc calls to get address or subaddress or whatever
00:50:42 <jwinterm> and send to text file or whever else
00:50:49 <newyearday> im not used with rpc
00:51:03 <jwinterm> ./monero-wallet-rpc --help
00:51:59 <jwinterm> this site is also excellent resource https://web.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html
00:52:12 <selsta> jwinterm: for privacy reasons it only creates address.txt for testnet/stagenet
00:52:46 <newyearday> so there is not smth
00:52:52 <newyearday> no solution only gui!
00:53:03 <jwinterm> rpc is exactly the solution you are looking for
00:53:44 <jwinterm> or just start wallet program inside another program and dump stdout to text file or something
00:53:51 <jwinterm> but that would probably be more complicated
00:55:06 <moneromooo> You can run monero-wallet-cli --wallet-file /path/to/file address
00:55:16 <moneromooo> (replace /path/to/file with actual path)
00:55:19 <jwinterm> or that
00:55:35 <moneromooo> But then you gotta copy it from the tty :) So... redirect ?
00:59:17 <newyearday> works but need one enter
00:59:35 <newyearday> |tail -1|awk '{print $2}'
00:59:43 <newyearday> how to insert enter
01:00:01 <moneromooo> Ah yes. You're going to have that problen quite often. Enter is needed after a terminal command for most terminal software.
01:01:21 <newyearday> i just pres enter and works...
01:01:27 <newyearday> thnx really
01:05:20 <newyearday> what other arg i can insert except address there
01:07:34 <moneromooo> Any command you can use in the interactive wallet shell.
01:08:09 <moneromooo> You might have to properly quote things for multi word commands or characters your shell might interpret, etc.
01:10:22 <newyearday> yea but works
01:10:52 <newyearday> is more easy than rpc i think
01:43:23 <modul8[m]> you needed foil impants
01:43:58 <moneromooo> Foil in pants ?
07:10:49 <yugyug> .price eur
09:09:29 <feeeeees> Hey! Is there a way to calculate the fee of a transaction, before I do the transaction ? (No need to be 100% specific though)
09:10:05 <feeeeees> Some estimate would be really nice to have
11:36:42 <lmt_> Hey my client stopped synchronising and is now spamming "Consistency failure in m_blocks_hash_check construction", what does that mean?
11:42:03 <moneromooo> That means a very rare bug :o
11:42:25 <lmt_> Restarting the client fixes it for another 10 hours
11:42:29 <moneromooo> Please paste the output of "sync_info" to some paste site.
11:42:37 <lmt_> I'm on armv8
11:42:38 <moneromooo> You got it more than once ?
11:42:41 <lmt_> Yes
11:43:03 <lmt_> I actually stopped the daemon now
11:43:56 <moneromooo> Also run set_log +blockchain:DEBUG
11:44:09 <lmt_> Ok I'll come back with a log once I get the error again
11:44:12 <moneromooo> Then wait for it to happen, and once it does, paste the last thousand lines from hte log please.
13:59:08 <TrasherDK1> When "talking" to wallet-rpc, I get A LOT of "T Moving counter buffer by 1 second". Is there a "--log-level" that will allow me to filter out all the "net.throttle" stuff ?
14:00:31 <moneromooo> The default.
14:00:38 <moneromooo> (0)
14:01:08 <moneromooo> It should only start appearing at 2, so if you really want 2 for some reason, you can use 2,net.throttle:ERROR
14:15:08 <TrasherDK1> Okay. That did work for throttle. I guess level 2 is too low to get the net.http stuff which is what I'm looking for. "net.http:TRACE" ?
14:16:57 <moneromooo> TRACE is violent. It gets you typically useless stuff unless you're really lost, as well as massive data dumps.
14:17:19 <moneromooo> net.http:DEBUG will usually get you all the interesting debug stuff.
14:17:26 <moneromooo> But 2 is debug.
14:19:57 <TrasherDK1> This "HTTP_RESPONSE_HEAD: << " is the level I'm looking for. level 3 I believe.
14:21:06 <TrasherDK1> I'm still on authentication level :-[
14:28:27 <moneromooo> OK, then this does need trace. What is your exact log setting ?
14:29:27 <moneromooo> And are you sure the code is going round that place ? :)
14:31:12 <TrasherDK1> --log-level '2,net.throttle:ERROR,net.http:TRACE' seems to be the sweet spot.
14:33:23 <TrasherDK1> Is there a setting that will show me the JSON data ?
14:36:40 <TrasherDK1> Yes. Authorization is in "net.http;TRACE' => authorization: Digest username="rpc_user", realm="monero-rpc", nonce="pvSjOhZF2jHCFiBwJliK+A==", uri="/json_rpc", qop=auth, response="0ac02de8f06ff52d4ed26b0abdb92d5b", nc=00000001, cnonce="43accc67f7354df3bc214b2ff4ca65bb", algorithm=MD5-sess
15:09:11 <fibonacci> Wow the fake economy is doing spectacular today!
15:09:25 <asymptotically> fibonacci: which fake economy are you talking about?
15:09:26 <asymptotically> both of them?
15:09:56 <fibonacci> traditional markets are killin it. must be all the job creation.
15:13:35 <Inge-> https://twitter.com/gaborgurbacs/status/1243171530349195265
15:26:42 <charolastra> non-fractional reserve banking sounds great
15:28:11 <Inge-> would that be non-fractional reserve, or non-reserve?
15:28:59 <charolastra> non-reserver obviously as they never had full reserve
15:29:45 <TrasherDK1> Won't they get a shitload of division by zero errors?
15:30:35 <charolastra> good question
15:33:19 <squidbass> nicks
17:52:08 <needmonero90> TrasherDK just make the number super small
17:52:24 <needmonero90> Don't hit zero, if you need more mun muns, just lower it more
18:52:03 <while> I read that sometimes transactions are 'disputed' why does the sender sending the tx key to the intended recipient prove payment?
18:53:29 <Mochi101> while, it just allows the person to look up the transaction in a block explorer
18:55:05 <moneromooo> Because if you could not prove you send something, the recipient could claim never to have got the monero, and scam the sender.
18:55:07 <Mochi101> To really prove it they'd send a "payment proof" which would allow the recipient to see the details of the transaction rather than just that "it may have happened"
18:55:14 <moneromooo> Well, scam with plausible deniability.
18:56:03 <Mochi101> because I could send any tx id from a previous block and it'd look the same as any other if you can't see the details
18:56:15 <Mochi101> You really need the payment proof.
19:00:52 <dEBRUYNE> You're conflating the (private) transaction key with the transaction hash / ID
19:00:57 <dEBRUYNE> ^ Mochi101
19:02:43 <while> what happens if you try to spend monero you think you have but dont?
19:03:21 <moneromooo> Then I guess you'll think you spend it, but won't :)
19:03:39 <while> so you wouldn't know if you spent it or not?
19:04:03 <moneromooo> That depends on why you think you have it I suppose.
19:04:39 <moneromooo> Are you hallucinating you have monero ? Did someone claim to have sent you monero ? Is a node sending you fake blocks that look like you got monero ? Othe r?
19:04:39 <while> like I know bitcoin has a getbalance command, I was thinking there was a monero equivilent that would reveal if you have funds or not
19:05:18 <moneromooo> So you mean... if the wallet has a bug and reports a wrong balance ?
19:06:17 <while> not quite, I was reading sometimes people dispute receiving a payment in monero, as the sender wouldn't you know whether or not you sent them monero?
19:06:19 <Mochi101> ah yes dEBRUYNE
19:06:21 <moneromooo> In that case, the most likely is that it thinks it owns an output it does not known. Then all would work till the tx gets to a node. The node will then reject the tx for not being signed by he owner's key.
19:06:30 <Mochi101> I read tx hash...
19:06:33 <Mochi101> my bad
19:08:00 <moneromooo> Whether the recipient knows or not they've been sent some monero is irrelevant from the network's perspective.
19:08:25 <moneromooo> The recipient can derive the secret key for the new output, whether or not they refreshed their wallet since it was created.
19:08:55 <moneromooo> If they did not see the incoming monero (can happen if you have a wrong refresh height, say), they just won't see that output.
19:10:00 <moneromooo> But then it's the opposite of triyng to esnd monero you tihnk you have. It's not sending some monero you have but don't think you have.