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DW_Hut
good day
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bigslim[m]
Kids say the darndest things
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bigslim[m]
Is fluffy still actively working with Monero ?
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moneromooo
Oh, I recognize the name. Wasn't he some dude who was around in... 2014-2015 ?
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newyearday
hehehe
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znre
Good morning.
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marmulak
Morn
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znre
It is such a beautiful day.
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znre
To use monero. I am trying to convince a few charities to accept crypto like monero.
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Feuermagier[PC]
does the monero daemon accept commands while running? - is there a list?
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Just type "help" on the daemon command line
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derpy_bridge
[discord] <Kayla#5718>: if you type "help" on both the daemon and the wallet-cli, there will be slightly different commands on each and a few will be the same 🙂
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fibonacci
Whatup
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mfoolb
if you use commands without name that will work too
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fibonacci
Where's Mr. Pony?
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asymptotically
turned into burgers and glue :{
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ganro
Good evening everyone.
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ganro
I have a few questions that I have been kind of confused on. So I can create an address for a transaction. Is that address good for multiple transactions until it is removed from my wallet? If I wanted a donation address from multiple projects that I run but wanted to use a seperate address for each that goes to the same wallet could I do that? Or would I require multiple wallets?
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asymptotically
addresses don't appear on the blockchain anywhere, so it's safe for someone to send coins to your address multiple times and they wont get linked together
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asymptotically
but yes it's a problem if you asked for donations on project A and project B with the same address. the wallet allows you to create subaddresses that can't be linked together, but get paid into the same wallet
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ganro
and those addresses last untl I remove them? I originally assumed that they were only good for just one transaction. Neat. Is their a single reason then to actually give your main address for a transaction?
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asymptotically
i don't think that you can remove them
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asymptotically
it's best for privacy if you just don't use the main address and create a new subaddress for each purpose (like one for donations on your website, one for poloniex withdrawals etc.)
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ganro
Neat. Okay thanks a lot asymptotically. Is there any problems the developers are looking into? Interesting problems or features they are interested in implementing?
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moneromooo
The main address is more compatible. Subaddresses are a fairly recent addition.
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moneromooo
It might be it's not a concern nowadays though, not sure.
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asymptotically
can subaddresses be linked to the main address?
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asymptotically
i thought that was a problem with them
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moneromooo
Not without a secret key.
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moneromooo
Or social engineering :)
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moneromooo
ganro: do you mean you're interesting in contributing ? If so, what are your interests, roughly ?
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asymptotically
oh hmmm not sure why i thought that was possible. i blame ferretinjapan :P
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ganro
Aaaaaaaaaah okay. Neat. Monero is cool as hell.
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moneromooo
That's excellent wording. You're never sure whether it's a compliment or not :D
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ganro
moneromooo: I have no talent at all I am just really interested in the protocol. I would actually like to contribute money if anything. I lack the coding talent.
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moneromooo
We all did at some point :)
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asymptotically
some of us still do :D
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yanmaani
ganro: If you want to donate money, there is "CCS" system for funding projects
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yanmaani
(disclaimer; I am not affiliated with the Monero project)
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ganro
Thanks yanmaani. Monero is just cool. Seems like the perfect crypto but I rarely see people talk about it. I guess because most people I know are more focussed on mooning shitcoins instead of holding.
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yanmaani
indeed
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yanmaani
'number go up'
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moneromooo
That's one reason. Another is that a lot of people are scared about random govts making monero illegal because it allows people to protect their privacy.
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moneromooo
Well, that's a common reason given anyway.
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ganro
I hear that arguement a lot moneromooo but if anything that just makes monero better.
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ganro
It just seems like everything bitcoin wanted to be. Not some get rich quick scheme.
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newyearday
how monero can be illegal
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newyearday
practically
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newyearday
law that cant be enforced dont exist
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ganro
Laws certainly do not have to be practical let alone logical.
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yanmaani
newyearday: It can be enforced. Ban buying, selling, and owning monero
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NerdyAnarchist
yanmaani: and how would you propose actually *enforcing* such a thing?
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newyearday
exactly
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newyearday
how
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yanmaani
NerdyAnarchist: Regulate the fiat on- and offramps.
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NerdyAnarchist
...how.
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newyearday
do u know bisq
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yanmaani
"banks may not bank monero exchanges"
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yanmaani
newyearday: Yes, it would be trivial to do sting operations
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NerdyAnarchist
yanmaani: banks don't do that anyway
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newyearday
or changing person to person monero with fiat
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yanmaani
since you get the full name and address of your counterparty
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NerdyAnarchist
this is ridiculous.
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yanmaani
newyearday: with cash? It's the same thing. Drug dealers have 50%+ margins
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yanmaani
monero dealers will not
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yanmaani
it would be beyond trivial
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newyearday
i have 10monero and i want 500$ for this
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newyearday
u agree and we meet in a cofee shop
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newyearday
are u security member
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newyearday
police
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newyearday
whatever
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newyearday
fbi
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newyearday
ok i start with small amounts
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newyearday
2moner
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newyearday
2moner0
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newyearday
100$
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newyearday
will u put me in jail for 100$
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yanmaani
Right, and already there you're arrested, and they seize your wallet and oh hey looks like he had a bit more than that
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yanmaani
How exactly do you expect to earn money from that anyway?
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newyearday
i will go with wallet with only 100$
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newyearday
please!!
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newyearday
ok take my 100$
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yanmaani
And then where will the rest be? On your computer?
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newyearday
elsewhere
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newyearday
what u'll torture me for giving other monero?
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newyearday
and dont forget bisq
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newyearday
best tool after monero
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newyearday
yanmaani?
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newyearday
im waiting to torture me
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yanmaani
Absurd - doing the transactions in cash wouldn't scale
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yanmaani
there isn't enough to support such an ecosystem
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yanmaani
It would be trivial to just monitor people who did this if that was the real concern
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yanmaani
Anyhow, the profitability is not clear
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newyearday
bisq ?
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yanmaani
Well, bisq doesn't work with cash.
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yanmaani
So you'll have to use your bank account
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yanmaani
People are already getting their bank accounts shut off because they're selling bitcoins
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moneromooo
Murder is pretty much universally banned. Doesn't mean there are no murders. It's still illegal.
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moneromooo
You just get caught after the fact (usually).
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yanmaani
Right, but the market would just be illiquid as hell
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newyearday
the universe expand so humanity will continue
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yanmaani
The realistic scenario is that you'll get something like XBT <-> USD exchanges in a regulated jurisdiction
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yanmaani
and XBT <-> XMR exchanges in some obscure jurisdiction
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yanmaani
and then lots of money laundering
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newyearday
which market we are talking about person to person or small amounts
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newyearday
do exist monero futures as bitcoin futures?
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yanmaani
newyearday: Yeah, but the network effects would be a disaster
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yanmaani
no, used to though
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yanmaani
or maybe there are XMRXBT futures or XMR/USDT
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newyearday
moneromooo must answer for network effects or better if monero can handle very big transaction volumes
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yanmaani
no, the opposite
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yanmaani
like, if you need to contact a shady monero dealer
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yanmaani
then how does that even work?
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yanmaani
what if you live out in the middle of nowhere?
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ganro
It is always a cat and mouse game. Who is the cat and who is the mouse? Same way you would have to do for any dealer if you are meaning to exchange fiat for another product. Get moving.
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newyearday
there are sites with person to person monero exchanging
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newyearday
and they work years now
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ganro
Mail in fiat for crypto is very common.
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newyearday
yanmaani dont misunderstood me but are u a cop?