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ganro
As soon as you make it illegal the blackmarket and other countries will look at it with further interest. Making weed illegal and all of the money that was spent on that really did wonders. Feds burn our money in stupid things all the time and when an alternative is found they decide they want to stamp it out? Revolutions have been started for less. Even small and relatively peaceful ones can be very very
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ganro
expensive.
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ganro
but that is if it ever came to that. Hopefully it never does and hopefully an ingenious solution is created to make the concern null and void. Much smarter people than I will have to work on that sadly.
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yanmaani
ganro: What's the margin of a drug dealer?
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» moneromooo considers writing "let me check my accounts" but decides this might get quoted without context by some humourless govt employee...
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yanmaani
Grossly speaking here, what does it cost you to buy a kilogram of cocaine on the black market (wholesale), and how much can you sell a gramme of cocaine for to end users?
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yanmaani
Helpfully, the UN have already compiled this data for us - I really would like to know how.
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yanmaani
The "Euro-inflation-adjusted weighted* average, in 2017 Euro per gram" for 2017 comes to EUR 73
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yanmaani
And for wholesale, EUR 37
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yanmaani
Giving a gross margin of 49.3%
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yanmaani
Now tell me, what would be the margin of a Monero dealer? What would the spreads be like?
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newyearday
that market will be blackmarket and blackmarket is the only freemarket!
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yanmaani
seriously why do the UN compile a list of cocain prices in various countries
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yanmaani
is there some guy there whose specific job description is keeping the list of which places have the best coke up to date?
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yanmaani
newyearday: yeah but he wouldn't make any profit
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moneromooo
Probably to measure the effect of various policies.
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moneromooo
Possibly also to deduce changes in actual supply.
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yanmaani
fair point
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yanmaani
So how? Do they have a guy tasked with travelling around the world trying out their coke?
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ganro
Do your government not?
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moneromooo
I would expect data comes from many people, rather than one travelling.
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selsta
Most of the governments are doing yearly reports, also the EU is doing one.
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yanmaani
ganro: you're saying I could apply to be the coke guy?
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selsta
So maybe they use government data. Government knows from police.
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moneromooo
Good point. The police are always high since they tend to beat the wrong people, so they must know street price well.
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ganro
yanmaani: Applyin in the first place loses you the chance for the job.
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yanmaani
selsta: possibly, but how can they get the data for places like Mauritania? ($21,195,4/kg)
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yanmaani
it seems like the data is from different sources
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yanmaani
but I am still intrigued - it looks like they have several different samples
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yanmaani
like I want to know how that study was conducted
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ganro
Also it is fair to assume they their data is wrong or even falsified. Having faith in the state rarely pays off.
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yanmaani
"Hello Sir, we are doing a government study, you wouldn't happen to know where I could buy some cocaine?"
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moneromooo
"Sure, see your son".
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ganro
They would buy the coke and test its purity. Maybe even get a wholesale cost.
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moneromooo
"Oh."
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yanmaani
ganro: right but do they like ask the study author's friends? that seems like it could get awkward fast
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ganro
If anything the state sets the prices themselves
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selsta
There is also things like legal drug testing in some countries. They also share their data on purity and price.
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yanmaani
"We placed enquiries with informal associates of the authors of this study. In total, seven were issued, and two responses were obtained, for a response rate of 28.6%. We further analyze this discrepancy in Appendix B"
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ganro
Also keep in mind there are plenty of 'illegal' drugs that are used in the manufacture of 'legal' drugs.
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ganro
brb
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yanmaani
I mean yes selsta it probably it is something mundane like that
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yanmaani
but I want to believe there's one guy who travels the world with the stated mission of trying out coke for the UN
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yanmaani
anyhow, drug margins are 50%, and a 50% margin for Monero means the spread is quite bad
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znre
clear
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hantas
Is there an easy way to buy XMR using PayPal!
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hantas
?*
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hyc
paypal will close your acct if they find out you try to use it to buy crypto
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hyc
so no, there are no easy ways
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newyearday
hello
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fibonacci
Mr fluffypony how have you been sir?
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fibonacci
Glad to hear. Take care
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newyearday
hello