Anyone happen to know if with localmonero you can buy xmr with another crypto like btc or ltc?

riceandbeans: no idea. but you can do that on bisq or hodlhodl.

that i know.

riceandbeans, YES... localmonero.co/buy-monero-using-cryptocurrency-with-btc

The third dropdown let's you choose a payment method to search for.

Nice, thanks

I saw stuff like cash in the mail and money wires and I'm like, that sounds kinda risky

hello

if hardfork.cpp is changed from 1 to 12 new blockchain will have v12 or we need to change other things

is anyone here

yes

is possible for new blockchain to start from v12

a new block chain can start from anything

well i did that (changed hardfork.cpp from 1 to 12) but after i had "genesis has old version" message and new blockchain wont start

i didnt change smth else

sounds like tricky business

is the right move to change hardfork.cpp from 1 to 12 if u want new blockchain to start with v12

`am i on monero channel?

mapuche yes and yes, you can start with 12

but why is this message "has old version"

because you also need to fix values in src/hardforks/hardforks.cpp

i change there { 12, 0, 0, 10000000000000000000 },

must remove mainnet_hard_fork_version_1_till

?

or mainnet_hard_fork_version_1_till = 0;

did you also change "original_version = 1" in hardfork.h? And "{ 12, 0, 0, 10000000000000000000 }" should be "{ 12, 0, 0, 1579857704 }" - last number is the unix timestamp

im doing it right now

this 1579857704 is timestamp of first block?

yes

i did well mainnet_hard_fork_version_1_till = 0;

after all this changes still "has old version" 0

<rbrunner7> In such cases I always search the message in the source, go into the debugger, set a breakpoint there, run, and when it breaks, see variables values to understand what it complains about

i did that but says no stack

maybe i dont know where to set breakpoint

<rbrunner7> Well, did you find the statement in the source code that outputs the message in question? Put the breakpoint right there.

<rbrunner7> Or, for quick-and-dirty debugging, add log output that dumps interesting variable values to console, so you can see more, if debugging does not seem to work (which it does, sometimes)

debugging is the best because even with --log-level 4 i didnt c something more

<rbrunner7> No, I mean you yourself modify the source to add new log statements, so you are able to see some values that may help you to understand the problem

<rbrunner7> This "trick" already worked 50 years ago when there were no debugger in existence yet :)

im not so good to add code

<rbrunner7> Hmm, well, maybe learn that, depending on what you want to achieve. Maybe won't possible otherwise

<rbrunner7> But anyway, you do work with a *debug* build, right?

no i dont

i must do a debug build?

ok i do it right now

<rbrunner7> Yes, with a normal build you have hardly any chance to correctly debug. That's what debug builds are for, after all.

sech1 are u here

If you can't debug, I think it'll be easier to just cycle through versions 1-12 in the first 12 blocks and have genesis block at version 1. Just modify block heights and timestamps in hardforks.cpp

im trying to debug is better solution

cleaner

how to have genesis at block 1

rbrunner are you available? have some multisig questions

Yes, here

ok

hello

greetings fellow earthling

just a heads up: the download link for linux on monero-gui's github release page is a 404 github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/releases/tag/v0.15.0.3

i don't think it's built yet

the release is 25 days old? the link from getmonero.org appears to work as well

Pr0t3us: i think that the links on getmonero.org are for 0.15.0.2

ahh this is correct

just double checked

mapuche I imagine genesis block 1 would require quite a lot of code edits

is letting it remain block 0 not reasonable?

well i think is no need to do it

too complicated

i had handle_block_to_main_chain return 1

after debugging

i dont know what to do next

at least i debug!

to start a new chain?

maybe look for instructions about setting up testnet chains

the problem is how to run from the begining with v12 and v1

It should be fairly straightforward. You get a verification error. Look at the condition it's failing, arrange for that condition to be true. Repeat.

handle_block_to_main_chain return false

check is on 4212 of blcockhain.cpp

how to arrange that handle_block_to_main_chain return true

That's your job, isn't it ?

You do the work, you get the premine.

is not my job because i dont know deep things

im testing,trying to learn

so cynical moo!

im sure that most of u start like that..

sounds like you have to trace back through all the functions; code wasn't built to restart from scratch; you may also look for monero forks which started from recent versions

most of monero forks are copy paste things without knowing what is happening inside

Investigating monero does take a bit of determination, anyone here can attest

Because many people ask the same thing about block 0, and most of it is about a premine.

So yes, cynical, but sometimes even I am not cynical enough.

I also assumed you were the same person asking about this for a few weeks. I might have been wrong here ?

wrong

lof of people ask for premine

Ah, sorry then.

im not asking for premine just how new blockchain can start with v12

Well, off the top of my head, hardforks.cpp should be pretty much the only thing. And obviously remove the checkpoints.

changed harforks.cpp and remove checkpoints

but allways "has old version" 0

Did you give it a new genesis block with v12 ?

where? on genesis first byte?

That sounds right I think.

i think i tried even this

wait to try again

version is variant or not?

No. One byte.

ah i did it as variant thats why didnt worked!!~

Oh, it's actually a varint, I just checked :P

But it's a uint8_t anyway.

12 is the same as varint and int, so no matter.

so i put "c"

capital c ?

no need to change anything else

for example original_version on hardfork.h

back

back again

someone took my nickname

moneromooo i tried with C,c but still version 0

hey all. was posting in #monero-community about issues I've been having lately with the GUI not connecting to the daemon. I'm happy to describe the issue in more detail or describe troubleshooting steps I've tried, but to start, here is a log: pastebin.com/8xWn3KiR

"C3c01....

"c3c01....

lyza: post the other logs

also use paste.debian.net :)

ah sorry I meant to. this is a recent monerod log: pastebin.com/FLRUMsR7

oh Hell yeah I was wondering if there was a better pastebin, thanks

Seems to be working fine.

that's just the thing. the daemon seems to be working fine, mostly, but the GUI won't connect

like this: i.imgur.com/r1kWbBF.png

also now the daemon seems locked up, which happens occasionally too. log hasn't updated for 4 monutes and it's now several blocks ehind

Check what it's doing when locked up. As in, get a stack trace or a few.

moneromooo what im doing wrong for versiob

moneromooo what im doing wrong for version

c3 is...

195.

It'll also be a > 1 byte varint.

not really sure how I'd go about doing that tbh

So I have no idea why you did this.

Do you have gdb ?

I always forget whether gdb works on windows.

well there's the Linux subsytem for Windows or whatever but....

3c is unlock time

Ah, the new shiny embrace and extent isn't it. And some people want to give them a one hundred and seventy third chance...

It's byte based, not nybble. Put in a whole byte (replacing the 0 or 1 that's there).

heh, yeah I hear you. what can I say, it's the Windows games that keep me here :-/

ah

ok

Also, just replacing the version probably won't be enough, as the block probably doesn't validate using v12 rules.

But I guess you'll find out.

u told that hardforks.cpp changes are enough

Off the top of my head, for rules change, yes.

But here you also want to create a new block for it :)

mainnet_hard_fork_version_1_till = 0 ; ?

"0c3c01..." still version 0

moneromooo what else is left

I don't know. I don't owe you my time. I gave you a few pointers, but I'm not debugging it for you.

ok i do i debug compile

thnx moneromooo

very nice your behaviour

u that give so much all this year to monero still help people

but other people that didnt do 1% of what u did refuse to help

They also don't owe you their time. And quite frankly this is good litmus test for whether you have a minimum technical capability to start and debug a fork.

mapuche: will you name for first child after them?

I mean, this is not particularly hard, though it is a multi step debugging process. There's no crypto involved, which would have required knowledge that's not basic programming. It only requires basic C++ ability and being able to debug code and find things in the source tree. You can do it if you invest the time for it, which, if you are making a fork, you should invest.

Doing things yourself from the pointers others give you is how you will learn.

"owe your time" is a luther phrase is not for u

no time for learning! only time for getting rich!

I have no idea what you said here sorry :)

Oh, that's somehting he said ? OK. He was right then.

if luther was right open source,monero etc wont exist

and asymptotically wouldnt be here screaming

lol

Hi guys, just a short question. If you want to mine on monero daemon it is not necessary that you open up any ports, because you just have to publish the block to other nodes? Am i getting that right?

If you open the port, you'll send your blocks to more peers. Otherwise, you'll send it to just the outgoing peers you have.

So more peers -> faster diffusion -> less orphan chance. But diminishing returns after a certain amount of connections.

Would you open up the port in your local network?

Im not sure whether its good for security in the network...

Moo Can i have your address for donation pls? Tx for your support!

It's on my monero-wallet-generator github page, thanks. Or you could donate to the core team wallet too (README.md).

Opening the port needs doing on your local firewall, and any router/switch that's in the way.

(along with forwarding to the right IP)

The attack surface is about hte same (the P2P comms), the only difference is that anyone can connect, not just the ones you randomly select.

But someone wanting you to connect to them can just wait anyway.

Ok. Thanks!

Sry moo but i cant find it on your github page

are you sure about it ?

me neither

I checked, I was not banned :D

donation address?

moneromooo is so oldschool that his forked monero repo is `bitmonero`

yea

it cant be found on your monero-wallet-gen page

Not so oldschool that I remember BMR though. I'm from the MRO era.

Hmm. Let me check...

:DDD

PMing

<tiedtoastar> is there anyway to delete my mattermost account?