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hyc
Ah, can always use the clickbait headline trick. "Has RandomX Been ASIC'd?"
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gingeropolous
nice
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hyc
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gingeropolous
nice. we need a cointelegraph article
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gingeropolous
should find a way to incorporate our incredibly complicated looking at and typing into IRC the stats from miningpoolstats
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gingeropolous
i think sech1 got the last ATH : <sech1> Miners 72116
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gingeropolous
missed a golden "is it true" opportunity there
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hyc
doh
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gingeropolous
"Monero's RandomX defeated by ASICs: Is it True?"
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hyc
you're right
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hyc
but I'd overrun the tweet character limit with that and the rest
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gingeropolous
"We interviewed many in the monero community about the disturbing news that RandomX had been defeated. One user, eatsmypants24, said "I always thought RandomX was an inside job by a bunch of AMD insiders that were profiting off of all the EPYC processors they had in their pants." Lead contributor fluffynioc said "Well, I guess we tried it, and now its time to use proof of pocket calculator" The team is awash in misery as the one last hop
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gingeropolous
truly decentralized cryptocurrency crumbled to dust before their eyes"
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hyc
lol
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hyc
y'know, we should feed the old discussion
monero-project/meta #316 into gpt-3 and generate some posts
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geonic
here comes SHA-3
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NickvanSaberhagn
Just a thought experiment, but what if Monero gets so popular that it becomes bigger than Bitcoin is today. Wouldn’t it be tempting for some government to get Intel/AMD to install a central control, similar to how SHA256 chip fab producers today could secretly be putting code into Bitcoin ASICs?
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NickvanSaberhagn
I guess it’s best of whatever options we have? Interested to hear your his thoughts. I love RandomX!
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gingeropolous
one possibility in that scenario could be an increased demand for older processors that don't have the spyware. if indeed monero is that popular, it would not be profitable for cpu producers to do that kind of stuff, because people might not buy the processors
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gingeropolous
so there's an economic thing perhaps
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gingeropolous
total miners 75980
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gingeropolous
minexmr.com 36.4
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gingeropolous
ah i refreshed and it went down to 73772
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hyc
NickvanSaberhagn: there's already secret control processors inside every Intel chip. Still not inside all AMD chips, afaik.
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hv-bridge
<\x> ryzen has it i think but im not sure hyc
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hv-bridge
<\x> on ryzen its like, an amr core (psp they call it) is what intializes and trains dram and pcie
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hv-bridge
<\x> its a black box
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hv-bridge
<\x> and yep, an arm core is doing memory training for x86, really weird.
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hyc
yep but actually not surprising. Even Intol uses an ARMv5 core - because they know they can'ttrust their own core for security-sensitive work.
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hyc
I wonder if anyone has written any meaningful programs using the randomX instruction set yet
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hyc
e.g. implement quicksort
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NickvanSaberhagn
What other coins have implemented RandomX?
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NickvanSaberhagn
Something called loki? The coin that helped pay for one of the audits?
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sech1
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sech1
the list is on the left
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sech1
Loki forked to PoS
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sech1
Arweave paid for one of the audits
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sech1
they should still be using RandomX, but they're not on the list there
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NickvanSaberhagn
Dang I had no idea there were so many