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needmoney90
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needmoney90
That thread has gotten literally no love and a report :(
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needmoney90
I thought it was some really interesting speculation
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needmoney90
The basic idea being that the widespread installation of renewable energy sources (like solar panels, wind, etc) will lead to the grid's load being out of sync with it's generation
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needmoney90
so during noontime on a sunny day (for example), the power being generated in total exceeds the grid's capacity to consume it
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needmoney90
Leading to temporary negative power pricing
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needmoney90
this is already happening, but the frequency at the moment is so low that there's not enough incentive to design industries around it, but with solar panels getting more efficient / cheaper / widespread, we could experience sustained periods of negative energy prices that are effective to arbitrage by usually cost-inefficient processes
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sech1
We already had negative oil prices this year, not surprised
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needmoney90
The article mentioned dummy loads and cost-inefficient processes like desalination, but my mind immediately went to cryptocurrency mining
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sech1
still a "dummy load"
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needmoney90
is mining 'dummy'?
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needmoney90
its a load that generates something
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needmoney90
im not sure calling it a dummy load is appropriate
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sech1
from thermodynamics point of view, it is :D
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needmoney90
so all computers are dummy loads too
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needmoney90
even servers being used for practical purposes?
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needmoney90
That feels like an awfully broad definition of a dummy load
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sech1
that's a philosophical question. All computers just produce heat in the end
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needmoney90
I think defining a dummy load as such is so broad as to make the term useless
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sech1
this is the case when the process is more important than the end result
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needmoney90
which makes me reject that definition
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hyc
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hyc
the original idea behind the tchnology that went into the Tesla was to create a smart grid
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hyc
EVs plugged into mains would soak up excess solar energy during the day
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hyc
and feed it back at night
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hyc
obviously any bank of batteries could do the same thing, but if you had millions of EVs in use, it would be decentralized capacity and all that other good stuff
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hyc
minimal wear&tear on any individual car/battery
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hyc
burning excess power into crypto mining is no different for solar than it is for the hydro power in China
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hyc
except thta it doesn't need to be as geographically centralized any more
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hyc
but if there's a practical way to store the power (batteries, molten salt tanks, whatever) then it's smarter to save the power for night time demand
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hyc
in general of course, night time/off-peak demand is much much lower than daytime/peak
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hyc
so you can still burn off a good chunk of it if you want to
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gingeropolous
yeah, the excess energy -> crypto storage is underway. Saw something on reddit some dude that works at a nat gas power plant was able to install btc mining farm onsight to sop up excess energy
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moneromooo
Clearly this all calls for a Dyson sphere.
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moneromooo
Then instead of pools DoSing each other, we'll get actual star wars.
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Inge-
cypherpunk-turned-death-star-proponent
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hyc
we could just build a ringworld first, no need to go full sphere
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hyc
and yeah, most oil rigs are also major sources of natural gas, which goes unused and is just burnt off
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hyc
too expensive to capture and transport it, so it's just wasted
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hyc
if you switched to on-site power generation and crypto mining, it would prob pay for itself too