posted this on #monero, doing the same here for completeness. check out the last section coincenter.org/do-anti-encryption-b…gress-pose-a-risk-to-cryptocurrency

kayront: not related to monero but to me it seems they are trying to legalize what they are already doing, just like they did with the NSA

not quite. today it's still possible to pay cash (be anonymous), although depending on the country there are mandatory reporting rules beyond certain (sometimes ridiculously low) thresholds

if this escalates to the point of even merchants not being legally allowed to accept anonymous digital cash, then that's one step beyond what we have today; the logical conclusion to the war on cash

it's bad enough already if the exchanges are forced to discriminate between hosted/unhosted wallet (and in the case of monero, how could they?), targeting merchants would be .. problematic

this is basically, as far as I can see, the globalist establishment attempting to put crypto in the same surveillance matrix that fiat has already fallen to for a couple of decades. in the tyrant's mind the ends justify the means, and you can be sure this is exactly the same twisted logic that has caused a resurgence of anti-encryption sentiment -- after all, if you can't monitor and record everything that everyone does, how can you be

sure any single person is not engaged in haaayte speech, plotting to overthrow the government, or a pedobear in the makings?

kayront: I was talking about the other bills, the ones that don't affect monero

ah

yes, those are concerning too (further erode the concept of privacy, normalization of surveillance etc)

but the last section is by far the most relevant for monroe i think

It is, that's why I said it was not related to monero

The world is getting scary. China is full on crypto fascist, and the USA is doing a lite version but on the low

I guess it is inevitable they try since the technology is there, but people seems not to care

yes. there's a lot of fishy stuff going on

and everyone is busy fighting each other (divide and conquer), perhaps by coincidence, perhaps not

seems very clear to me where this is all going unless the trend is reversed somehow

<kayront "and everyone is busy fighting ea"> Yes. It is a shame that Trump, while having a hard on against the elite pedophiles, is so bad on privacy

It seems no matter what you vote in the west you are fucked when it comes to privacy

Mumuks[m]: it would appear that way. even the EU is highly schizophrenic on the topic, ostensibly caring about people's privacy with GDPR, but then doing a complete 180º and offering little protection against government abuses of privacy

there are certain things in society that no reputable politician would even try to defend, seems to me mass invasions of people's privacy ought to become one of them. but how to go from here to there, i dunno

<kayront "Mumuks: it would appear that way"> IMO the only reason the EU got a half decent law in the GDPR is because social networks are from the USA so they wanted to cut their power a bit.

meanwhile we watch as 5 eye countries basically assert that you have zero rights when it comes to be left alone from intelligence agencies, fatf pontificating about banning private transactions (that is at least what I take from the article linked before, someone feel free to correct my perception), etc

If the social network companies were European the GDPR would not have happened

Yes, it is worrying what they are proposing

and even more worrying that almost no one seems to care

to say nothing of puzzling, just read some history lol, it doesn't end well

and very much less so with our modern technology

needmoney90: HN as in Hacker News? Oh was that shared/discredited a while ago or something?

intervasp.org/wp-content/uploads/20…ta-model-standard-issue-1-FINAL.pdf -- start on page 16, juicy

TIL I’m a “prominent cypherpunk” and the “leader of the Monero community”: cryptocomes.com/news/monero-xmr-to-…paper-why-may-it-be-crucial-for-xmr

😂

I also learned that sharing messages from a public TG group is “leaking”

Other than that though it honestly wasn’t a terrible article

SECRET MESSAGES FROM PUBLIC TELEGRAM GROUPS ARE LEAKING

kayront: my science fiction hope is that quantic computers in mass comes and we can do wireless quantic communications from any point to any point. That would be a decentralized dream.

journalism at its finest

All hail to our dear leader sethsimmons!

From one of the CLSAG reviewers: mobile.twitter.com/veorq/status/1289688599470825472

doesn't xmrchain.net have a tx push ability?

found it

sethsimmons, congratulations!

i remember when I was anointed as a monero dev by the bitcointalk trolls

anointed a or anointed as a

😂

I guess they don't have enough DeFi to write about. Or maybe they just don't understand it well enough to write about it? This is basically a preannouncement of an announcement for the publication of a paper ...

"As covered recently by CryptoComes, Monero (XMR) was endorsed by the masterminds behind the recent monstrous Twitter hack."

uh-huh.

*facepalm*

um wut

was it that bitcoin address thing?

yeah

lol, dumb media

Apparently, if I understand this articles take, the hacker was talking to themselves, recommending they use Monero ...

seems legit

Which makes about as much sense as a lot of other things happening in this space I guess.

Journalism in this 'industry' never fails to disappoint

<xmrscott[m] "Journalism in this 'industry' ne"> We should just stop pretending and call it propaganda

bait

I'm working on formalizing the goals/leadership/organization of this workgroup. Diego, Doug, and I will discuss internally and then share updated when we have them. This will allow the workgroup to grow and better support this community

Looking forward to that 🙂

sethsimmons, aka fluffy the 2nd!

all hail

XD

careful in the boat

something about monroe and boats, a voodoo curse

I just got a boat...

May my keys RIP

Or just Big Boat is out to get Monero community members

Big Boat LMAO

lol the montero cruise

sorry FATF!

cool. Openpriv gets donations mainly in zec, btc and xmr twitter.com/OpenPriv/status/1290335356856934400

😂 youtu.be/3Xp_sggekrE

so good lol

is ledger app working fine with v0.16 now? i seem to recall some issues

is it worth upgrading daemon/wallet to 16?

faster? prettier? free monroes on upgrade?

Dandelion++ is integrated, so there's that

Ledger works fine since the last point release