rdymac: can this be live-streamed to youtube?

wowario[m]: I'll try and get a recording. Looks like they are also getting their own recording

There's a shill that ruined it

I just got kicked from the meeting but I had a recording up to that point

Maybe this is why you shouldn't use a rando's Zoom account instead of YouTube

rehrar: please offer them to use the MCW channel and you or I can set up the stream

Yes

ah damn thought that was in 5m, not an hour ago

Hopefully they'll have a recording to share/will redo it due to the issues

Got caught up in the latest Bitcoiner saying that Monero is better than Bitcoin for those needing privacy :)

Eventually they will all succumb!

Thats a view I have never heard before in my life

fort3hlulz, I think it is just the logical conclusion if you are of the "there can be only one" mindset

Yeah, I've heard that before

huh that is totally new to me

I figured HFs were an impossibility for hardcore Bitcoiners

Well, a lot of people think bitcoin will fork to do privacy

Really??

yeah

heard that a bunch of times too, "if monero's tech pans out bitcoin will just adopt it, so monero doesnt matter anyways"

lmao

That has been debunked IMO

Bitcoin adopts nothing from outside itself

And rarely adopts anything developed for it

I've been playing this game since 2011 lol

also hardfork to blacklist coins that haven't moved in ten years if quantum computing actually begins to threaten old coin stashes

I love when people bring that up

before privacy coins

back when forking bitcoin wasn't so....controversial

So the argument has morphed over time

I am cryptocurrency baby compared to you needmoney90

the people who are slightly less retarded and are still maximalist transition to "well, we can keep the ledger and fork in privacy"

I only have Segwit2x on to look back on personally lol

gosh, pre-2013 was a different era

My most entertaining encounter was with rehrar in Prague, a *masked* bitcoin fanatic was arguing that Bitcoin's strenght was it's transparency, yet refushed to take off his mask for a face reveal when Rehrar asked.

well yeah if you wear a mask and stuff then you can transact with bitcoin anonymously

that's also true

makes sense

Well yeah, those who can afford to (and know how to) transact privately in Bitcoin have a massive advantage

if Bitcoin succeeds long-term

We'll just repeat the same mistakes as before and allow only the rich to have privacy for their money

fort3hlulz: Those maxis always pulling up the price chart rofl

Yup :)

If you bought Monero in 2014-2016, you're basically still up in BTC

Hit a technical/logical flaw in your argument, just throw the XMRBTC chart at someone!

At least if you bought before the AB pump

The XMR/BTC chart is essentially a reflection of the inverse BTC.D chart

Which has been in a bear market (bull for dominance) since early 2018

Bull markets don't last forever, nor do bearmarkets

Once the tide changes, that will also be reflected in the xmr chart (barring no substantial negative news)

Not to mention its terribly disingenuous for someone touting a focus on privacy and human rights to use price as a reason to keep using and pushing a transparent ledger

I couldn't care less about the price of Monero if it continues to be the clearly superior privacy tech that enables actual financial privacy in an age of surveillance capitalism.

That doesn't mean I don't think adoption and a circular economy inevitably lead to price appreciation

here's a recording of the scammer if anyone is interested lol youtu.be/xM8JdpWqJM8

tbf price is the most objective manifestation of the sentiments of market participants

this is interesting plot bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-btc-eth-xmr.html

easier to read on log scale, more dramatic on linear

eth and btc pushing up towards ath in daily txs, monero surpassed

sgp_: scammer?

yeah a scammer interrupted the first session

fort3hlulz: Yeah it is definitely disingenuous

Price has no place in these kind of discussions

Besides, of the alt pack, Monero's performance isn't that bad

jwinterm: BTC transaction count has effectively been stagnant since the 2017 bubble

Its almost like Bitcoin is only used for speculation :thinking:

it tracks pretty well with eth tx count

just smaller magnitude

due to hard cap on txs

where in the video is it?

tldw yet

how can the btc tx count go up?

lza_menace: oh man it was a doozy

so that person speaking was a total stranger?

and was just giving some pitch?

MasteringMind or w/e

he offered his premium zoom account for this meeting

Locha people had a few red flags on him, but ultimately accepted.

None of this stuff was discussed beforehand, and he started giving an intro (which was leading to a pitch of his intel platform), was interrupted when Locha caught what was going on and they started the tech demo.

One part of the tech demo was taking a while, and guy used it as a way to get back into his 'intro'.

Once again, none of this was agreed upon or expected beforehand.

oh....so he was the host

yes

got it

lol, what a turd

following up

trying to see what happened

#justrehrarthings

how do you even talk to a maximalist? twitter.com/theonevortex/status/1273244800641187842

where do you even begin? How do you even try to speak with this person? twitter.com/theonevortex/status/1280108544306495488

how do you get the point where you're that way?

I dunno

but I don't like the highlighting in the sgp_ tweet

all I see is REAL POTENTIAL

which is like the exact opposite of the message that is intended

This guy is following one person. The Federal Reserve.

A cute copy of Snowden's thing of following just the NSA.

these guys are so weird bro

jwinterm: when will you read my book?

read to wife, kids, grandma, uncle, etc.

is it scifi?

It's a fairy tale.

link?

if you like, I'll give password for the rest

kk

.soon

I mean its true, there's no provable use of large quantities of Monero on the darknet 👀

I finally downloaded tor and looked around a bit

seemed like decent number of vendors accepted it

this all feels so familiar to me ... when your software works as advertised, nobody talks about it because there's nothing to talk about

have had this problem in OpenLDAP for ages...

no, you can't brag about txn value in XMR, because ... that's the whole point

hyc: Sometimes you hear CEOs/CTOs say "our product was so popular it took our website down!", like it's something to boast about - perhaps to impress shareholders ... engineers hear "we had incompetent people hosting our services"

lol yeah