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sgp_
rehrar: can you run the meeting Saturday?
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rehrar
Ye sure
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sgp_
Thanks a million
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fluffypony
heh
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fluffypony
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fluffypony
that was the thing endogenic organised at dinner after the announcement
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fluffypony
I loved how they forgot the T at the end :)
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dEBRUYNE
fluffypony: All that effort and then forgetting the T haha
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fluffypony
ikr
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neoflux[m]
We should get this Chico Crypto Mate from California on board Monero. He's funny and he hates Ripple and Justin Sun and he knows about the Tether pump. Check out this BTC vs. XRP "A Lambo Story"
youtube.com/watch?v=YT-9Yob-2IE
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monerobux
[ BTC vs XRP: A Lambo Story - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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neoflux[m]
It's a smart car!
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endogenic
dEBRUYNE: You see my question to you in an answered I hope. But it's fine
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endogenic
is un
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midipoet
honestly: i don't understand how 'everything is fine'
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midipoet
as people have expressed quite a few concerns about the proposal as it stands
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midipoet
endogenic: ^
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endogenic
false info was stated in reply
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endogenic
i am asking what was the NDA'd info
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endogenic
but i am fine
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endogenic
and monero will be okay too
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endogenic
and it was accounted for in my plan that people wouldnt understand at first or that yarns would be spun
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endogenic
i am strong enough, so it's fine
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endogenic
but questions shouldnt be hidden and not just a subset of facts are important
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endogenic
but it's fine
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endogenic
because i already know
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endogenic
and i dont need the answer even if it would help people to know
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midipoet
but truth is global reality, not local
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endogenic
so he doesnt have to reply
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endogenic
yes i agree even if it also is present locally
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endogenic
i'm not going to devolve this into a he said she said even though claims were made
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endogenic
about ne
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endogenic
me
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endogenic
it's okay because i dont need the a swer
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endogenic
i just need the question
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endogenic
and the record
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endogenic
ttyl
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midipoet
i agree, that would not be helpful. however, a newly written CCS clearly stating the project would be helpful - to both you and the community (if a CCS is your goal)
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midipoet
i just have to assume a CCS is not your goal then
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endogenic
why? dont assume
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endogenic
so many people do
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endogenic
and so much has been assumed and believed unconfirmed
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endogenic
all of you should check every thing for yourselves. even what you think
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endogenic
Don't worry about me though. I'm relaxed for a reason
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midipoet
if a CCS is your goal, then i don't understand why you don't take the advice and guidance offered by the community. hopefully you will. a monero marketplace would be nice to see.
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hyc
why wouldn't we just adopt particl /s
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endogenic
i am midipoet why do you keep saying that
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endogenic
wow hyc so accurate
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endogenic
let's trust you haha
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endogenic
by the way i might as well burn one "key" and tell you all someone's guess of hyc as the cto is certainly not it. i wouldnt have any reason to hire him except as an addtl dev - not a cto - his background is not really relevant and he hasnt really worked in a CTO role anyway
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endogenic
the person i'm working with is almost a unicorn. you will be very surprised and pleased to find out who he is
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hyc
lol. I could have told anyone that it wasn't me.
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hyc
nobody asked
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endogenic
when i say he's built something all of you in CC have used and know, it's real
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endogenic
oh well hyc
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hyc
but fyi, yes, I've been CTO at Symas for at least 18 years
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hyc
of our 21 years in existence
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endogenic
tell me, what does your ceo do?
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endogenic
in your particular co of which you are cto and founder
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hyc
what does any CEO do?
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endogenic
uh oh hyc
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endogenic
it's ok
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hyc
irrelevant question
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sgp_
endogenic: please keep this irrelevant conversation out of this channel
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sgp_
you can be excited about this idea we don't know much about without demeaning others
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endogenic
what says i was the one demeaning him jesus relax guys please
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endogenic
I figured my affection would have come through by now but text can be difficult in a global community
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endogenic
i didnt mean to make waves and frankly assumed and even knew the info was public
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endogenic
but i can take hyc's teasing one sided i guess. it's ok
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endogenic
Being a developer is not an insult by the way if that's what it was. A lot of people struggle just to be able to free up to write code
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sgp_
as a CEO one of your responsibilities is to figure out what info is public and what isn't
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sgp_
in any case I ask that you not have a conversation like this here. It's not Moenro-related
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sgp_
s/Moenro/Monero
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monerobux
sgp_ meant to say: in any case I ask that you not have a conversation like this here. It's not Monero-related
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endogenic
still genuinely curious what you'd do as CEO of one of these wallets though. can you imagine the value to Monero of that advice? I know you might doubt it but i'm 100% sincere. wish this were video chat
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ErCiccione[m]
We misspell monero so often that sometimes i think it's a good thing. Imagine googling monroe in few years and the first results are Monero related. Would be pretty cool :P
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endogenic
if you dont want to spend your time answering or you dont thgink ti's appropriate then it's totally fine with me
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endogenic
lol Er
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endogenic
those will all be forks in future
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dEBRUYNE
endogenic: I am not sure which specific information that you published is subjected to the NDA. However, fluffypony clearly states that some of the information is
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dEBRUYNE
I am not sure why it is relevant to specify which part of the information
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dEBRUYNE
The reason for the removal of the link of Reddit was that there was some confidential information published that shouldn't be there
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endogenic
no worries at all
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endogenic
it wasnt a fundable proposal
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endogenic
i had wanted to leave off my part anyway
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endogenic
I think it's an important matter to verify which information is claim to be not publishable though as well as whether it was a violation that justifies .. well
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endogenic
it's not an issye
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endogenic
sry bbl
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sgp_
In any case I think it's best to not continue conversation here for a removed CCS proposal
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sgp_
It's not very relevant
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endogenic
by what criterion or metric?
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endogenic
actual bbl
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sgp_
By mine since this is my channel. Make your own if you want to talk somewhere where you consider it relevant by your own measures
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endogenic
I'm asking so that I can abide by them dude
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sgp_
nah you're trying to skirt around them. we don't have suicide-pact rules here
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endogenic
Anyway I was told multiple times that MyMonero was a failed And would be open source or given
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sgp_
I'm done with this meta discussion
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endogenic
Don't you think it's important for the community to know that
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endogenic
I don't know what suicide pact rules are yet. googling
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camthegeek
next monero news headline: monero community turned lynch mob mode on to one of their very own after a crazy CCS proposal was made! :D
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asymptotically
mymonero failed?
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sgp_
failed to generate income
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sgp_
fluffy said he wants to make sure the users are taken care of
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endogenic
Fluffy wrote that in his reply basically as well. He told me that over months. Is that NDA information too? I don't know if it could be
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xmr-pr
[css-proposals] pricode opened pull request #147: Swedish cli wallet
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xmr-pr
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thunderosa_
Sorry, Justin. I know you're wanting to shut this down on your channel, but this has been gnawing at me. All of this is abhorrent. None of it is fine. Paul, I don't know you, I'm meeting you through your recent words and find it all ugly. But what's really disheartening is the burn rate,...this is some shameful ZCash shit. Volunteers are hurting out there, but he's a mil to burn up. Shameful.
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endogenic
no no no please
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endogenic
it's okay
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endogenic
feedback was right
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endogenic
pls wait for a little
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thunderosa_
No
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endogenic
no i'm asking
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endogenic
please wait
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endogenic
personal favor
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thunderosa_
For what kind of person?
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endogenic
you mean what kind of person am i?
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endogenic
or him?
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endogenic
none of us know others' futures
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thunderosa_
I ain't eating bait,..I said what I meant to.
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endogenic
or past accomplishments
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endogenic
ok
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endogenic
i truly believe we're in this together
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ErCiccione[m]
Guys stop it. Seriously. We all know what happened was ugly, but these conversations have no clue and are mostly born out of emotions. Let things settle down, then the conversation can continue in a more relaxed tone. No way anything constructive is coming out of this right now.
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needbrrrrrrr90
Idk why endogenic keeps saying he'll be back later like, five times an hour, on IRC, which an explicitly async chat medium. I think everyone knows. Adding that to the end of every sentence is unnecessary.
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needbrrrrrrr90
Bbl
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endogenic
it's when i expect not to see replies without ping
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endogenic
or when i will be back expectedly an hr or more later
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endogenic
bbl
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endogenic
😇🤣
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pigeons
*pigeons* is away - AOL Instant Messenger
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selsta
hi pigeons we still have to fix something for website :D
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selsta
Content Security Policy related
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endogenic
hahaha
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pigeons
oh true, OK will look
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selsta
only on Safari so not too important
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ErCiccione[m]
The onion address!
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pigeons
bbl just reminds me of those away lines
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endogenic
afk
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asymptotically
blocking analytics is a feature :D not a bug
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selsta
asymptotically: no, it blocks safari’s internal video player
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selsta
and the video fails to play lol
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asymptotically
oh, it blocks piwik too
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selsta
yep, that’s a feature
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asymptotically
Content Security Policy: The page's settings blocked the loading of a resource at
analytics.getmonero.org/piwik.js ("default-src")
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sgp_
Seriously any other conversations on the marketplace topic and related (and any prodding meta) are now considered off-topic, enforced with short-term bans. Please continue with other conversations
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asymptotically
thank you csp!
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selsta
already opened an issue to remove js tracking
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ErCiccione[m]
That's broken anyway atm
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sarang
so they say...
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sarang
=p
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sgp_
banned for unrelated spam reasons
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ErCiccione[m]
who banned?
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niocbrrrrrr
neoflux a new person
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selsta
they kept posting off topic videos, though I think a message would have been enough before banning
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thunderosa_
yeah, seemed like maybe it was a young guy trying to fit in
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thunderosa_
Was on some other channels doing similar....I don't know. Just seemed lonely to me.
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niocbrrrrrr
he talked on another channel how he got banned from some dash and btc channels
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thunderosa_
ah,...so we really are in 3rd place. Good eyes.
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needbrrrrrrr90
selsta: he was spamming his stuff across a bunch of different groups
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needbrrrrrrr90
Not just Monero
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ErCiccione[m]
oh good job. I actually wanted to suggest to ban the guy, but i didn't want to sound the usual asshole :)
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ErCiccione[m]
*sound like
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hyc
yeah, leave that to the usual assholes
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ErCiccione[m]
thunderosa_: maybe, yes. But it started to insult immediately when i asked them to stop spamming with crap
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ErCiccione[m]
hyc: i meant i am the usual asshole :P
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ErCiccione[m]
* i am usually the asshole
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ErCiccione[m]
cannot write today
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thunderosa_
I am also a usual asshole. Asshole isn't exactly right,..it's just standing for a quality. I take your asshole-ness as standing for quality and I respect.
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thunderosa_
Even if I disagree, I can't disagree too much because I believe you are speaking for something larger than yourself.
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ErCiccione[m]
:)
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thunderosa_
Respect of time too :)
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fluffypony
Brandolini's Law applies
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fluffypony
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monerobux
[WIKIPEDIA] Brandolini's law | "Brandolini's law, also known as the Bullshit asymmetry principle is an internet adage which emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit. The law states that "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."..."
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xmrmatterbridge
<vikrants> I never get on IRC..hi all.... but this Brandolini's Law I will have to remember as a reply for crazy conspiracy theories.
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needbrrrrrrr90
technically you're not on IRC, you're on mattermost, vik
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niocbrrrrrr
this was known b4 there was an internet
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vikrants
Hehe
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needbrrrrrrr90
:)
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vikrants
Now?
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needbrrrrrrr90
you are now.
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vikrants
Fast learner
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rehrar
selsta: you don't have to worry about the js tracking right now
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rehrar
as stated, it's down now, though we're getting it back up soon.
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selsta
rehrar: I don’t worry about it but I still want it removed
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selsta
a privacy coins with JS tracking on its website is ... ?
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rehrar
That it's down is actually my fault. :P I destroyed the box it was on thinking it was a test instance.
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rehrar
Although....maybe it was.............intentional?
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rehrar
dun dun DUN!
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selsta
you can do server log parsing to get necessary infos
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rehrar
(it wasn't)
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rehrar
can you link the issue selsta?
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selsta
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rehrar
let's do it
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rehrar
selsta: I'm convinced. Nobody likes Javascript as a language anyways
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thunderosa_
This is offensive, my mom is half javascript.
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hyc
She looks it
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thunderosa_
Yeah, but she's fast on V8
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rehrar
oof, hyc, you can't just go around murdering people like this in a civilized society
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thunderosa_
I double down and say I don't hate PHP either.
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thunderosa_
:)
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hyc
lol
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pigeons
my mom is half visual basic
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thunderosa_
so sorry man ;)
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jwinterm
at least she's not just basic
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fluffypony
jwinterm: niiiiiiice
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jwinterm
:P
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midipoet
we are in jitsi
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midipoet
Come chat
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midipoet
meet.jit.si/meetinghall44