hi guys trying to install monerod

`exit` command wont get me out of the menu, just says stop signal sent

hit enter again

manj-gnome: ^^ sometimes it need a gentle reminer

reminder

tried multiple timesnada

it stopped syncing but wont exit

manj-gnome: you should be able to exit any way that you can and it should be ok

it does sound weird

but then again I am clueless and use windows

using windows is like abusing a child

something you generally don't wanna do

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N​orkle: How many toes do humans normally have if they have 0 le​gs

0

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Good morning everyone

hello

I bought in right before the dip ;-;

guess I just need to wait longer next time

How do you know it's a dip?

A 'dip' implies that it's going back up.

I'd be surprised if this wasn't a dip

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​azy: How long is th​e word spend

5

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I know this sounds ridicilous, but is it possible to compile xmrig without randomx support? Trying to compile xmrig-cuda for kawpow alg, I could test out randomx_cuda but I don't expect it goes very far;

Error: symbol `fatbinData' is already defined; I just can't compile randomx_cuda.cpp and I also end up with this

wait maybe if I disable lto

"lto-wrapper: fatal error: /usr/bin/c++ returned 1 exit status"

I had no luck compiling any cuda based miners so far

kubast2 add -DWITH_RANDOMX=OFF to cmake command line

hello

how to add this monero-project/monero #7661

not a github guru

Save patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/ra…nero-project/monero/pull/7661.patch to, eg, /tmp/7661.patch

patch -p1 < /tmp/7661.patch

(while in the monero tree)

Actually, do this instead:

patch --dry-run -p1 < /tmp/7661.patch

If it says anything about failure, it'll be complicated. If not, then run: patch -p1 < /tmp/7661.patch

Then build normally.

thnx

no error

thnx again

Would it be possible to have a pool limit built into the protocol?

So one pool couldn't control more than for example 5% of the total hash rate of the network?

Well that would be just dumb

No, because mining is not an interactive process

The only solution to pool centralization is education

yeah, that and using the stratum_v2 protocol or whatever its called

self-select

hello again

after adding this monero-project/monero #7661 compile stops with errors paste.debian.net/1197859

before everything was ok

You can remove the entire contents of light_wallet_get_outs.

And fix up returns if needed.

Hi guys!! I’m trying to generate a Private spend key manually by coin flips. I’ve already seen the Site jolly mort, there is a option to generate a seed by coin flip, but I want to understand the process and do it manually. Because the site is asking for 252 flips, so i write this (0 - 1) and I get 63 number base 16. (From base 2 to base 16) but a private spend key is a 64 hexadecimal charters. So how can i get the

remaining number? To do it manually? How the site with 252 flips generate a seed?

If I make 256 flips (256 bit number) then I need to compute its reminder right? Modul l (which is 253 bit integrer) but that is too much for me 😅

You can use the generator at moneroaddress.org, put your flips in the custom entropy (any format you like).

Be very sure you don't write this entropy anywhere else though.

Or monero-wallet-cli also allows you to input your own entropy.

monero-wallet-cli uses it in addition to the system random bits, moneroaddress.org uses only what you give IIRC (so deterministic).

<moneromooo "Or monero-wallet-cli also allows"> Thanks moneromoo.

With moneroaddress i put my entropy, let’s say 252 coin flips and of course get the seed. but I want to see how the site resolve this entropy to generate a private spend key (or seed)… with 252 flips

It runs keccak or Cryptonight IIRC.

<moneromooo "It runs keccak or Cryptonight II"> Oh! I see, SHA3. Thanks

When will XMR move to a proper algo like SHA3?

Probably never. The difference between our keccak and SHA3 are so minimal it's not worth the pain to switch given we have to support our vrsion for historical data.

there is no difference between keccak and SHA3 for the data we operate on

the only difference in spec is wrt to padding, which is only relevant for inputs that are not multiples of 32 bytes

all of the data we operate on is always a multiple of 32 bytes

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p​arazyd: Of 6 <-> 1, which ​is 6

1

parazyd: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)

wat

should the decoy selection algorithm be adjusted to make sure there is at least 1 input of matching fee level (200x normal fee)?

i looked into ring member 7 for input 2, and found that that transaction (xmrchain.net/tx/66c305bdddab95d9f7a…4e3147ec2928912eadbdf24f695a61d39ee) also had 2 inputs

this transactions 2 inputs both suffer the same problem of only having 1 high paying ring member...

Probably not.

Knowing why the fees are high would help decide.

whoever is making these transactions is burning thousands of dollars, they are making hundreds of them

so strange

if you look at the twitter bot twitter.com/HerdAlert almost every (if not every) high fee transaction is made by this entity

probably worth investigating further

How the hell do you even get a .06 fee

200 isn't a standard multiplier, I just looked.

So custom code.

Pointless doing anything then.

(to rings I mean)

I say 200x cause the GUI wallet says you are paying that much when you pick fastest tx priority

i have used 200x once and it is similar to what this person is paying (~0.01XMR) so I assumed they were using that

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floralshoppe[m]1: Access denied for beg. Are you logged in?

I want to privately buy some monero with some ethereum. What are my best options ?

hello

hello

how's it going?

find a miner who wants shitty ass eth

How do I search for one ? I'm new to the crypto world.

walton - you can mine xmr yourself

I do.

But I want to privately exchange my ethereum for xmr

oh

binance? p2p?

lol not binance

walton: use changenow.io, no sign up swapping

thanks, I'll check it out.

godex.io also

thnaks

check which one is cheaper

sure

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Hi there!

hi!!!

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Mo​chi102: How long is th​e word trust

5

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.balance

Mochi102: • Your balance is: 0.0005431 XMR (≈0.19 USD)

massive!

Can i speed up monerod syncing by disabling verification like i can do with monero-blockchain-import.exe ?

(import is too slow)

why would you want an unverified chain? 0_o

solominer, I think there is an option to do that... not 100% sure though

should be

SSDs are cheap now

Mochi102 will buy you one

no

I'm the second poorest guy in Europe.

solominer, getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/importing_blockchain.html

import is too slow

no ssd

Never use the dangerous unverified import option, it is strictly for experts only.

Are you an expert?

let it sync and if you need to use your wallet you can use a remote node until you are synced up

monero-blockchain-import --help

try that

look for the unverified option

will take some days to sync without a SSD

monero-blockchain-import --dangerous-unverified-import

something something something

solominer, I'm thinking you're not an expert though if you couldn't find that yourself...

so maybe just verify the chain

;)

ok and what does this mean?

Synced 1281616/2363161 (54%, 1081545 left, 0% of total synced, estimated 1.8 days left)

54% versus 0% ?

0% of what's left

to sync

54% total is synced... 0% of what's left... so you just started it up right?

Mochi102: as i said before, i have tried exactly that but it's too slow because it's using the hdd twice: once for reading the raw file and once for writing to the actual blockchain file

You used the --dangerous-unverified-import switch?

Mochi102: with the import-command, yes. now i'm syncing with monerod over internet

I guess you just need a faster computer and more patience then.

Mining is all about patience.

So get used to waiting.

Even when you find a block you'll need to wait about 2 hours for the reward to unlock.

patience

just want to speed up syncing, if possible. cant find a verify-option for monerod. and of course, i would have connected to a trusted node which wont deliver a wrong blockchain.

I only send my money to trusted "double your money in 48 hours" schemes, not the cheap knockoffs who can steal from you.

Okay, i've just changed my mind: reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments…ockchain_sync_windows_10_gui_wallet

Synced 419768/2286320 (18%, 1866552 left, 0% of total synced, estimated 4.1 months left)

lol, now that's a long time.

He's syncing it on his microwave.

microwaves are also on windows 10 nowadays?

Even your grandmother's life support machine.

BSOD takes on new meaning.

(especially because I recall hearing they're -- at least sometimes -- red screens of death now)

QUESTION to the monero-team, if any are here: I want to invest in monero in the longer term, but I am worried that many exchanges will delist monero because of its anonymity, so its value will fall in the long term. How likely is this?

I don't think that's necessarily a question for the dev team tbh

I don't think many many exchanges will delist it, because there aren't many exchanges listing it.

Then again, I'm not quite sure how numbers compare so...

Atomic Swaps are Coming

solominer: I think that "investing in Monero" in a real, meaningful sense, would involve skipping the buy-hold-sell plan people use with BTC. Monero's value is its utility, not its mere existence as a get-rich-average-speed collectible. To invest in its actual utility, mine it, run a full node or two, and sell things for Monero using private transaction vectors.

apotheon, I sell things for Monero

solominer: If you have zero interest in helping improve the ability of people everywhere (including yourself) to gain private access to free economic markets, and just want to put fiat currency into something and get more out of it later, sure, Monero will probably do that, but the hostility of the state apparatus to private currencies will ensure there are more obstacles in the way of doing this

kind of thing quickly, easily, and safely than things that are easily identified, tracked, and (if "necessary") attacked.

Mochi102: . . . like what? I don't recall whether I saw you mention what you sell.

apotheon, monero.style

I didn't realize that was you.

:)

I'd like that "Subtle Monero Supporter Hat" if it was black with the M in white or blue, but I'm not in the market for another hat right now, so don't make it just for me (yet).

that you all so far! bye, bye

I scared off solominer

I have a khaki one that I wear all the time apotheon

apotheon: you are very scary

Yeah, I don't wear khaki.

DirkGently: . . . thanks?

Mochi102: I'm still considering whether I want to get that poster. First, I'd need a good place to hang it. Second, I'd have to justify the expense of paying for the frame, because I'm too lazy to get a frame myself.

It took me a year after purchase to get around to framing a previous poster.

(OpenBSD "The Wall" style poster)

The block hashes poster?

yep

I'm already kinda beyond budget on my unnecessary purchases lately. I should just chill for a while. It's not like I have guests at home to see the poster, anyway.

I had the crazy idea of exporting the block hash for every block up until now and making it into a bunch of posters... even with crazy small typeface it was some oddly huge amount of posters though.

DirkGently: Is this scary? gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmYsvqgs7…tle_fenrir_2020_05_04_r_endroad.jpg

Mochi102: yeah, that seems like a lot

eight-pixel font

yeah... was a crazy idea

but it might be exactly the kind of crazy we need

lol

It'd be an inherently "unique serial numbered" set.

"I want one with my first transaction on it."

"What's the blockheight?"

"I'm not telling YOU!!!!"

apotheon: is that belt drive?

yep

500 thumper, belt drive

good times

DirkGently: Do you ride?

only motor vehicle that I don't

ah

shame

Some people just don't like it, I guess.

you should ride it on the NY highways like the crazies do

I don't go to NY.

I ride it in the mountains.

looks like it

I go everywhere

(and through roundabouts, and on lakeside roads, and gravel/dirt roads, and so on)

I have another bike I'd use on the Interstate, except it's partially disassembled right now.

Even in that image, the side covers are missing (thus making the battery jarringly visible).

There are many changes I still want to make to that.

The first, Gristle, needs a headlight swap and the addition of handguards. I'm thinking of adding ammo cans as panniers to Gristle, too. Other than that, I'm considering some paint and de-chroming. That's not much to change, compared to what has already been done.

apotheon, the Monroe Ave has nothing to do with why you're posting that pic here?

just lucky

:D

I'm considering a photo edit to rearrange those last three letters, though.

The problem is that I suck at image editing.

yeah

I can crop and resize okay, though.

here: imgur.com/undefined

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apotheon: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈344.25 • ccc/OKEX: ≈$342.21 24HΔ: -11.64284% Vol: 300.62K [0m] • cmc: ≈$346.28 24HΔ: -10.64835% 7DΔ: -23.1248% [< 15m]

oops

here: imgur.com/a/iS8kIq8

apotheon, ^^^

ahh, script-avoidance for that last link

using it now

.tip Mochi102 0.002 xmr

apotheon tipped 0.002 XMR (≈$0.69) to Mochi101 [62884160]

;)

oh man... apotheon you want it to be monero ave and 69th street?

The missus is now laughing about that.

there you go

new one

E 69th St and Monero Ave

You're killing me. I love this.

Wait... you want Elon Musk sitting on the bike in an Astronaut's Suite while it's floating through space on the way to mars?

No, thank you.

ok good

whew

:P

I guess you liked my tip quantity.

anyways... I need sleeps... later peeps

yeah, thanks man

"0.69 USD" was semi-intentional

g'night

I need to figure out how to get home without my laptop getting waterlogged, walking in the rain.

I think, one of these days, I'll slap a Monero sticker onto one of the lite poles at that intersection and take that pic again, with more modifications on the bike -- and get Mochi102 to fix the street signs again.