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Bill48105
i got approved for coin swap API so technically i could integrate it into the bot
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dxrwzy9y[m]
What's a good manageable amount of fiat to deposit without getting screwed by fees?
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Bill48105
tough to say you need to decide what you're comfortable with
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fibonacci
I just read your earlier reply Bill48105 ... nice 👍
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Bill48105
lol which one fibonacci
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Bill48105
about the escrow stuff
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burp
wtf, I was just checking poloniex "You cannot withdraw or deposit this asset, but it can still be traded."
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burp
I've had some XMR there for years
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burp
and now they tell me I can't get them anymore?
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strike
nice
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Bill48105
lol well trade for ltc then withdraw :D
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strike
^
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Bill48105
and buy monero back somewhere you can lol
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burp
still feels like a scam, and I wonder if that is legal
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burp
Bill48105: why do you suggest ltc?
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Bill48105
ltc is common, cheap to move vs btc & fast compared to btc
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burp
sounds good
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Bill48105
ltc is my go to for moving around coins between exchanges, platforms
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nioc
probably just temporary
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Bill48105
never know with exchanges
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Bill48105
bunch of em stopped doge during the hype
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silverdragon[m]
What's the best place to buy and sell monero?
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mmxxx[m]
Did binance resolve its eth withdrawal issues?
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mmxxx[m]
<silverdragon[m] "What's the best place to buy and"> Depends on which country you are in. For some it's kraken.
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silverdragon[m]
<mmxxx[m] "Depends on which country you are"> What about exchanging from ETH ortl BTC? Same place?
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mmxxx[m]
<silverdragon[m] "What about exchanging from ETH o"> Btc? Yes.
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mmxxx[m]
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echelon
hi, how much disk space is needed for a full
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echelon
monero node
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ndorf
echelon: at least 100GB
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ndorf
mine's using 98GB as of this moment.
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ndorf
however, you can also run a pruned node which is more like 35GB i think.
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ndorf
SSD is also highly recommended. rotating drive will be much slower. still more or less usable, though.
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Bill48105
yeah i made mistake of trying HDD at 1st. it was gonna take 800 years or something to sync lol
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echelon
Bill48105: as opposed to ssd?
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echelon
how come?
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ndorf
dunno about syncing, but it takes much longer to create transactions, i think it's because the ring signature needs random outputs from all over the blockchain.
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ndorf
i ran it that way for a year or two, so like i said, still more or less usable (if you are willing to wait), but flash media is much much better.
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ndorf
i'm actually running one off a microSD card and that is almost as good as an SSD, much better than HDD
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echelon
microsd is better than hdd?
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echelon
i find that hard to believe
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ndorf
why?
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nioc
but true
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ndorf
microsd, like all flash storage, has much better random access than spinning drives.
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nioc
don't think a microSD has anywhere near the life span of a nice SSD
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ndorf
better meaning faster, in this case.
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ndorf
nioc: that's probably correct.
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ndorf
in this case the node is an SBC with a microSD slot and no USB3 or other convenient way to attach an SSD.
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Bill48105
yeah when i switch to even sata ssd it sync'd in hours
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Bill48105
nvme would fly i bet
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echelon
i've had nvme die on me
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Bill48105
but non mechanical is key
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Bill48105
that sucks
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Bill48105
no warning?
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Bill48105
what brand
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echelon
nope
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echelon
uhh
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nioc
yes nvme is nice
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Bill48105
i've had 2 ssd die so far
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Bill48105
both zero warning just dead
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ndorf
oof
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Bill48105
but they were both sata & cheap shitty ones
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ndorf
what the hell are you guys doing to your drives?
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Bill48105
one was from a dell i forget bran like nvix or something lol
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ndorf
you're sure your system has proper cooling?
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Bill48105
the other was some other common shit one
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nioc
I have a hynix on pre buolt and a samsung 970 on the one I built
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Bill48105
i only buy samsung or intel now
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Bill48105
hynix was the dell one that died!
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ndorf
i have a 970 evo in my desktop but it's nowhere near as fast as it could be because i have an ancient CPU that can only decrypt 1.2GB/s
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nioc
mine is acer but yeah'
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Bill48105
but yeah SSD is a must with monero
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Bill48105
dont even bother trying on hdd
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nioc
monero, bringing you into the future!!
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Bill48105
when i saw the warning i was like "yeah i can wait awhile longer"
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Bill48105
days later eta was 100's of year something stupid
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Bill48105
i was like UGGH
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ndorf
like i said, i ran mine from an HDD for a year or two. it wasn't pleasant. but it worked. so "don't even bother trying" is a bit strong IMHO
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nioc
lol
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Bill48105
moved to ssd & sync'd right away within hours
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ndorf
that definitely didn't happen for me. it synced in a couple of days tops, probably less
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ndorf
the bigger issue was that every transaction took like 5 minutes to construct
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Bill48105
i was running in ubuntu under vm so maybe that was partly why
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nioc
yeah a couple of years ago you could get by with an HDD but now, well...........
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nioc
for IBD
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Bill48105
knock on wood i have not had issue with any intel or samsung ssd after years & years of 24x7 use
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ndorf
i'm not seeing how 70GB->100GB blockchain size could possibly explain a couple of days->hundreds of years sync time increase.
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nioc
I had an HDD machine for my monero comp and the HDD dies
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nioc
the only time I had an HDD die
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ndorf
ubuntu VM doesn't seem like it would be explain it, either, unless you were using some really wacky setup. the default, virtio and qcow2, should work fine
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ndorf
hehe
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ndorf
funny story at my expense, i had like 3 hard drives die within a few months
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ndorf
i was cursing the name western digital and swearing never to buy them again
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ndorf
turns out my case fan was pointed in the wrong direction.
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nioc
now an HDD sync should be less than a week
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ndorf
fixed that and still using the replacement drives like 13 years later.
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ndorf
never did apologize to WD, though.
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echelon
so i definitely run a full node on hdd?
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echelon
shouldnt*
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ndorf
echelon: not unless you are ok with stuff being painfully slow.
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Bill48105
well i was running trusty under hyper-v running on 2 slow ass NAS WD HDD's mirrored
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ndorf
oh hyper-v
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ndorf
yeah sorry, all bets are off :P
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Bill48105
kek
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ndorf
hehe, did not mean to say that hyper-v is definitely bad.
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Bill48105
i think the mirrored nas drives were bigger issue than hyper-v
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ndorf
only that i know nothing about it, and therefore my earlier statement that VM should be fine doesn't apply.
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ndorf
i always mirrored my drives, so i don't think that was it. not sure about those NAS drives though, that could maybe be a factor
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Bill48105
dont miss the slow ass NAS drive part :D
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ndorf
yeah
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skrech
Hey, my blockchain got corrupted because I had some HDD issues. The error is: "Attempt to get block from height 2300155 failed -- block not in db". Tried --db-salvage, didn't help. Can I force re-sync from that specific block height?
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ndorf
i wouldn't advise that, you have no way of knowing if earlier blocks aren't corrupted also.
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ndorf
that being said, if you're just feeling adventurous, you could try the pop_blocks command.
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Bill48105
is it huge deal to just sync from start to be sure they're all ok?
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skrech
Bill48105: yes, it took me one week to sync, at least
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skrech
I'm on HDD
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skrech
ndorf: I'll try with pop_block
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skrech
however, isn't the whole point of blockchain to be fully checksummed/hashed, so corruption should be easily verifiable?
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Bill48105
get into 2000's with SSD :D
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Bill48105
verifiable if checked
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Bill48105
not sure why anyone needs to store entire chain anyway once sync'd.. unless going back to import old keys or verify old transactions. then again depends on age or your inputs in your wallet too to be able to spend
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skrech
monero-blockchain-import --pop-blocks 500 gives me the same error :/
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skrech
any other suggestions? at least, until I buy an SSD :D
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ayaseen
Hi
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ayaseen
I want to build a pool support RandomX for different coin
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Bill48105
nice how's that going
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ayaseen
I mean I want someone help me in that
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angrymonkeyboi[m
Just take the implementation out of a monero miner like XMRRig 🤷♂️
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angrymonkeyboi[m
done
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ayaseen
I am not talking about the miner, setup a pool
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angrymonkeyboi[m
You haven't actually asked a question 😕
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DisBotXMR
<Shay> Hey
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DisBotXMR
<Shay> So I have some questions about mining
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DisBotXMR
<Shay> If I get multiple miners pointed to my main wallet daemon, will it put their power together and act as one giant miner with more hashpower or will it act as separate miners with small hashpower individually?
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ry`an
is there a difference?
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ry`an
either you mine a block or you don't
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DisBotXMR
<Shay> How are you guys talking btw
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DisBotXMR
<Shay> Since you're talking through webhooks
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DisBotXMR
<Shay> Is there a live chat website or smth?
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ry`an
irc
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Wharrgarbl[m]
Matrix
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Wharrgarbl[m]
go to app.element.io, homeserver is monero.social
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fluffydonkey[m]
Are there authorized trezor sellers in the U.S?
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fluffydonkey[m]
I don't want to wait 2 weeks for it to get here 😪
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moneromoon[m]
mine took about a week to arrive let me check
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moneromoon[m]
yup mine took 4 days after they shipped it
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moneromoon[m]
I'd just order from trezor direct
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moneromoon[m]
safest that way :P
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moneromoon[m]
fluffydonkey
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megazoor
hey guys
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megazoor
is this the proper place to download the cli
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megazoor
-
megazoor
?
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moneromoon[m]
thats the one! :D
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moneromooo
Yes.
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megazoor
haha whos the real moneromoo?
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megazoor
thank you <3
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Wharrgarbl[m]
moneromoo = our resident cow
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Wharrgarbl[m]
monero.moon = resident conspiracy theorist
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moneromoon[m]
🧙♂️
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slave_blocker
Recursive mining
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slave_blocker
There are a bunch of transactions in every mempool. The coinbase transaction is part
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slave_blocker
of the master block header, and is not in the mempool. Each mempool has to a high
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slave_blocker
degree of percentage the same transactions as every other mempool. The transactions
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slave_blocker
are the most important elements in this system because without users there is no
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slave_blocker
system. And without transactions from the users in the system, the miners are less
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slave_blocker
motivated to mine blocks, because the rewards are less. Transactions with higher fees
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slave_blocker
should be prefered. So in each mempool the transactions are sorted first in ascending
-
slave_blocker
order by the fees. The second sorting criteria also in ascending order is by the sha 256
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slave_blocker
hash.
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slave_blocker
Each miner after finding a block wants to propagate that block in the system with the
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slave_blocker
minimum information as possible. Let every mempool have the same amount of full
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moneromoon[m]
?
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moneromoon[m]
wtf?
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moneromoon[m]
lol
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endor00[m]
Mom: "Don't worry, we have moneromoo at home"
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endor00[m]
The moneromoo at home:
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megazoor
where do we download aeon gui?
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megazoor
or aeon cli
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moneromooo
I think they have binaries on their github repo. Try #aeon though.
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grc001[m]
I connected trezor t, opened it with pin, started steup in gui but im getting an error msg. anyone know whats up with it?
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grc001[m]
Error writing wallet from hardware device. Check application logs... and on the bottom it says device connect failed
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slave_blocker
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makelaz
hello
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kalindrome[m]
Howdy!
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makelaz
do i have any chance with 4.12 kH/s
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makelaz
i left server almost 5days on this speed and zero until now!
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binaryFate
a chance of what?
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makelaz
of having any monero,piconero whatever
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moneromooo
femtonero
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makelaz
solo mining
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makelaz
femtonero?
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moneromooo
Type "mining_status"
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moneromooo
A joke. It doesn't go that low.
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sech1
At 4120 h/s with network diff of 2.44e+11 your expected time for find a block is 5.93e+07 s or 686.23 days.
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makelaz
Mining at 3.05 kH/s with 31 threads
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makelaz
0.001254972204 monero daily, 0.038276652245 monero monthly, 0.446770104903 yearly
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apotheon
Wow. Femtomonero would be pretty darned low-value.
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moneromooo
So current block reward is ~1.1 monero, so 0.45 yearly means a block every two years on average, about what sech1 got.
-
moneromooo
It's a lottery. Might be very soon, might be ver ylong.
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makelaz
i have 2 sockets with Opteron 6272
-
makelaz
is any command that can better exploit this cpus
-
makelaz
a assembly miner optimized for this cpus will help or im exaggerating
-
moneromooo
You could run xmrig connected to the daemon. It's better optimized.
-
makelaz
good but maybe an assembly miner optimized for this cpu can help
-
makelaz
or not?
-
moneromooo
Probably.
-
makelaz
i mean to exploit cpu arch and to play with cpu firmware
-
makelaz
cpu firmware destroy cpu capabilities
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fibonacci
.balance
-
Wallet
fibonacci: • Your balance is: 0 XMR
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makelaz
cpu firmware is not known so is very possible lot of amd,intel firmware programmers are playing with mining
-
makelaz
any thoughts?
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sech1
xmrig already uses assembly optimized code for RandomX and even uses specific instructions availabe only on Opterons:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOP_instruction_set
-
sech1
the truth is, AMD CPUs before Ryzen suck at mining
-
makelaz
whereis any good manual on using xmrig with daemon
-
makelaz
google has lot of garbage
-
vekin
./xmrig
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sech1
-
vekin
should auto populate the config
-
vekin
then you just add your pool
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makelaz
solo mining
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sech1
use
xmrig.com/wizard to generate the config, it allows you to choose solo mining to daemon
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makelaz
good thnx
-
makelaz
this cpus will better than opteron 6272 "INTEL E7- 4870"
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anon_ijq28gn
Hi everyone, I'm hoping to get Monero added to txstreet.com to show the low fees and the minimal wait time to get your transaction added to a block.
-
anon_ijq28gn
I'm trying to determine the best way to get as close to a real time view of the mempool.
-
anon_ijq28gn
What is the best way to go about doing so?
-
anon_ijq28gn
I'm aware of get_transaction_pool endpoint from the Daemon RPC, but that would require constant polling.
-
bhmxiufb
“I thought, ‘I’m going to pump it and dump it,’ because I was interested and taking the ideas and implementing them in bitcoin. The bitcoin code base was far more interesting to me than monero, and I thought, ‘I’m not going to work on this codebase, it’s terrible,'” he recalls - fluffypony in an interview about Monero
-
ndorf
anon_ijq28gn: you can use --tx-notify option to run a custom command on new transactions, or use the new ZMQ pubsub interface to be notified
-
anon_ijq28gn
I thought tx-notify is only for new incoming transactions associated with your keys
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ndorf
seems you are right, for some reason i imagined monerod had its own --tx-notify option. however, you can still use ZMQ pubsub
-
Bill48105
notfy per block isn't fast enough?
-
ndorf
-
ndorf
Bill48105: he wants mempool
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anon_ijq28gn
block-notify wouldn't work either
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Bill48105
guess i don't get how mempool works then. guess it's waiting to be block not on last so need notify on broadcast then eh
-
ndorf
Bill48105: mempool is the set of transactions that have been relayed, but not yet in a block.
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Bill48105
but what i meant was notify on block isn't often enough to check mempool for what he's doing?
-
ndorf
notify on block is by definition not checking the mempool.
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Bill48105
kek i didn't claim that
-
Bill48105
if you need it and no notify event poll it
-
ndorf
there is a notify event, if you use the zmq pubsub feature
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Bill48105
not familiar with that but if so that solves it right
-
ndorf
i hope so :)
-
anon_ijq28gn
Yes, I think this solves it. Thank you
-
ndorf
anon_ijq28gn: cool. see the ZMQ.md file for more details and options of the pubsub interface
-
apotheon
Is anti-fluffypony spam quite common here?
-
apotheon
I've noticed it twice lately, and there are huge swaths of time that I wouldn't have noticed if there was more.
-
ndorf
anon_ijq28gn: note that this will include confirmed transactions, if they were not previously seen in the mempool, so you will want to filter those out if e.g. you're trying to keep track of the mempool size
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anon_ijq28gn
ok, and we'll have to make a call to get_transaction_pool, to get more info about the transaction... i.e. tx fee
-
ndorf
if you want full details for every tx you can also subscribe to 'full' channel instead of 'minimal'
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anon_ijq28gn
I've never used pubsub, can you provide more details on what you mean by full channel?
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ndorf
anon_ijq28gn: you will want to read the entire pub/sub section in ZMQ.md. but the short answer is, replace the word 'minimal' with 'full' in my example script, and the notification will include full tx instead of just the id
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ndorf
docs/ZMQ.md that is
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anon_ijq28gn
gotcha, thank you
-
ndorf
np
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strike
.bal
-
Wallet
strike: 0.0018173 XMR
-
strike
oh nice the bot hasnt been kicked yet
-
strike
.val 0.0018173 xmr usd
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Wallet
strike: ≈$0.4716 • ≈ value of: 0.0018173 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
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cankerwort[m]
-
cankerwort[m]
Does this effectively make ETH an ASIC mined coin? As you will need dedicated hardware rather than second purpose for a gaming GPU
-
cankerwort[m]
Interesting that they would bring out a ETH mining specific product so "soon" before ETH 2.0
-
midipoet
.bal
-
Wallet
midipoet: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
-
Wallet
midipoet: 0 XMR
-
midipoet
damn
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nioc
.bal
-
Wallet
nioc: 0.0061 XMR
-
makelaz
i'm running "-o 127.0.0.1:18081 -u --hugepage-size=1280 --asm=auto --cpu-max-threads-hint 100 --daemon" but is worst than solo mining
-
ndorf
what's the best place to see monero mining pools by %age of total hash rate?
-
ndorf
makelaz: i don't think your --hugepage-size=1280 makes sense, it's supposed to be the size of one page in KB, not the number of pages
-
makelaz
./xmrig -o 127.0.0.1:18081 -u address --coin monero --daemon even this dont work
-
ndorf
by dont work do you just mean lower than expected hashrate, or doesn't work at all?
-
InvestmentOracle
What the hell happened in the market today?
-
makelaz
"status" on monerod gives "no running"
-
makelaz
not mining
-
makelaz
sorry
-
ndorf
that means the daemon is not mining, which is expected because xmrig is mining, not the daemon
-
ndorf
xmrig itself should log status including mining hashrate every minute or so
-
ndorf
InvestmentOracle: which market?
-
InvestmentOracle
I guess I should've asked that in monero-markets, but just the USD and BTC markets. Everything kinda took a shit today
-
ndorf
seems like a pretty minor/normal pullback to me.
-
ndorf
it doesn't go straight up
-
moneromooo
If mining from a pool monero to the daemon, monerod itself isn't mining, so mining_status says it's not mining. That is expected.
-
makelaz
im solo mining but still "not mining"
-
makelaz
xmrig now is working because all cpus are 87%
-
DisBotXMR
<TheLizardWizard4013> how does Monero encryption work? I guess this is more of an encryption in general question. In general are people better at creating and reinforcing encryption, or breaking encryption algorithms? Like in theory could Monero constantly be ahead of the people trying to crack it?
-
strike
read up on how ring signatures work and how monero implements them
-
strike
that should answer your question
-
binaryFate
ring signatures are only a third (simplifying) of Monero's onchain privacy
-
binaryFate
hidden amounts and stealth address destinations are key as well
-
ForestMapper
Hey
-
nioc
ndorf: is this info what you were looking for
miningpoolstats.stream/monero
-
nioc
current location: nap fog brain
-
ForestMapper
I'm struggling trying to build the repo
-
ForestMapper
recipe for target "cmake-release" failed
-
Zerock
any monerujo users have a problem where the generated QR codes aren't valid?
-
moneromooo
They might have a "monero:" prefix ?
-
Zerock
hmm, that's a possibility
-
Zerock
the only experimentation I've done is I confirmed that the donation QR on the monerujo site works, but if I scan someone else's monerujo QR from within monerujo, it says it's invalid
-
Zerock
(and likewise if they scan mine)
-
Zerock
at the present moment I don't have another device that could scan to see if it has that prefix