Tor and i2p bring in all sorts of legal concerns, especially tor entrance and 1000% for tor exit nodes.

whats up with Erik Vorhees - twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/1345100565735378947?s=19

never had an issue on hetzner with noisy neighbor. also told me you can host all the network nodes, basically.

node.supportxmr.com was running fine for 2 years on a hetz vps

but nodes only need bandwith

legal concerns for TOR exit nodes? i think there is a bunch of libraries that host exit nodes here in the US

M5M400: ya thats why i went with hetz because bandwidth.

just looking to get something closer to me because of the latency.

yes, huge legal concerns for running a tor exist node in the US.

there are exit nodes in the us. like i said, i think there are libraries that run some here.

also all the i2p traffic is encrypted and there is no practical exiting of the i2p network

If I remember correctly, I believe in a youtube videos in which they specifically state to form an llc if hosting a tor exist node, to avoid the police searching your personal computers if pedo stuff is detected from the out-going node.

<Inge- "whats up with Erik Vorhees - htt"> Very odd

His whole approach to the ShapeShift delisting was weird

Tor lists hetzner, DO, OVH, and Online s.a.s. as providers to avoid, so idk why you would knock ovh for not wanting a tor exist node when hetzner apparently does not want them either.

im just saying OVH doesnt want any type of nodes, not just TOR. no I2P or crypto. hetzner says go right ahead with I2P and crypto.

ive never ran a TOR node.

hello

happy new year

is possible to choose a specific tx on pool for mining

If you're the one running the daemon which the pool is mining on, definitely.

yes im

the command?

i checked help all on cli but didnt find smth

I'm not sure it's as easy as a single command

sethsimmons: old.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments…scussion_friday_january_1st/ghrygd3

Any thoughts and concerns would be appreciated

<Inge- "sethsimmons: old.reddit."> Thanks will read

"im just saying OVH doesnt want any type of nodes, not just TOR. no I2P or crypto." Than you should report to OVH the 50 OVH IPs that the attacker is using on OVH's network...... If OVH does not do anything about those attacking nodes, OVH is not going to complain about a person running a legit crypto node on their network.

is monero going down because of this attacks?

monero price i mean

maraga: Nope. reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/koexu5…sted_from_bittrex_on_jan_15th_thats

that is not a serius thing.there is allways bisq as solution

and i believe that negative news are positive news for monero

anyone to help on how to choose tx for mining?

"tx" for mining? You choose a mining pool, and if you want a dedicated rig for it, a rig. Nothing else to choose AFAIK

bittrex is trash anyway

bimbos

XMR in freefall -- is there any specific news triggering that?

bittrex delisting caused panic

moronic since bittrex xmr volume was near zero already

dunno how anyone can believe free markets are so great when investors are so irrational

mebbe that's why :)

just some random traders dumping. I just hope not many exchanges follow.

there is no reason for them to follow

bittrex has had issues for a long time that lead to this

now i can buy some moneroooo

righto, good time to bottom-pick and quadruple my position then :)

did bittrex cop a squeeze from regulators?

there was no explanation

just have to infer based of the past history

based on past***********

reposting link old.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments…daily_discussion_friday_january_1st

@nioc : "Tweet

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did you try reloading

sometimes tweets don't load the first time

I haz no tweeter account

WTF, bittrex

ndorf: I was kicked off of bittrex, mebbe a year or more ago, because the NY regulators didn't like that they were still allowing people like Mickey Mouse to sign up after they were warned to get their house in order

Reload worked.

\o/

ndorf: Happy New Year!!!

nioc: oof, haha.

i think i will close my bittrex account citing monero delisting as the reason

and happy New Year to you as well!

as long as kraken keeps XMR open

kraken is great. it sucks to have only one exchange to rely on though

ndorf it'll be better soon because litecoin will have mimblewimble and then it's going to be harder for exchanges to get rid of privacy coins

i guess this discussion really belongs on xmrtrader right?

i mean #Monero-markets

i mean, they might be okay with the weak ass privacy of mimblewimble but not the stronger privacy of monero

maybe, i dunno. i assume if someone is bothered by this conversation they'll let us know :)

true. it's not my place to tell people what to do

not my chan

but i'll be respectful and only talk about market stuff on #monero-markets

ndorf: grin was also delisted

way I see it, monero being delisted = more competition on localmonero

would be nice to minimize the nokyc premium

Right, but I'll start to get a bit worried about localmonero later on. I don't think Monero is going to be delisted from all exchanges, but if so, then it'll be matter of time until the feds start to have a big problem with localmonero

As for kyc or nokyc, matter of time until it starts to get abused hard and becomes practically useless wilderko.medium.com/how-does-kyc-am…ould-not-be-used-at-all-88f7acd3f3b

what country is local monero hosted in?

Beags[m]: Hong Kong I think. Might be wrong.

jess: I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.

When you do that, solution will present itself. Observe. 'spam' -> 'FUK talks bad things about Monero on our IRC' (Don't say that out loud obviously, that will get you excommunicated) Solution? Get off-the-shelf sentiment analyser, detect anyone who 'talks bad things about Monero' and ban them.

Is there a discord server that is generally used?

kiwi_48 discord.gg/3GDDeqjypN

<underzero> Hello there. I'm a SysAdmin and I have a server infected with monero minner malware. I was looking for on GitHub a kind of tool for checking the execution of Xring protocol. Can someone help me?

No clue what Xring, but for the monero malware part, mrw.getmonero.org might help.

I just learned about monero

And I got excited when I heard the asic resistant feature

It has great sides, and also not great ones. A hard path to follow for sure.

I don't understand what that means in details. But it just means that small fish still got a chance at mining this. Even with cpu.

But it's easy! youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w

Thanks for the link. I will watch it than come back. I have more questions.

What is this video about?

Ammar__, technology

What video ?

moneromooo, Quotes

Oooh :D

moneromooo, the "i don't understand" trigger

Well, what the best guide out there on mining xmr?

Also, what's makes you mine faster, more cpus, or more powerful ones?

both

So what asic resistant really means if cpu power is still a contributing factor?

CPU != ASIC

Oh.

Means rigs like gridseed and the likes can't mine it

The PoW algorithm monero uses tries to use modern CPU strengths. Making an ASIC for it basically means developing a lof of an actual CPU.

The idea's that Intel/AMD/ARM are already pretty good at this, so topping them is gonna be a high bar, even with the ability to drop some parts of hte CPU you don't need.

I see. Now this make sense to me. Thanks.

Is it possible to develop a better algorithm to mine it if someone's try too?

Probably.

It's like everything else. Doing better is almost always possible, it just takes more and more effort for less and less improvement.

In general, etc, etc.

yup

very smart

so how about that delisting, eh?

This delisting will be forgotten in a couple of weeks

I will never forget

1/1/21 Never forget!

<sech1 "This delisting will be forgotten"> Probably not

Hi there. I made an XMR withdrawal from binance which seems to have gone through but hasnt come through to my wallet. I've tried Mymonero and monero gui. it has been about 4 hours now. does anyone have any suggestions?

<dav "Hi there. I made an XMR withdraw"> Should coMe through immediately but not settle for 10? Blocks

Did you copy paste the address from your gui wallet to binance withdrawal box?

i scanned it. Ive checked the addresses from binance destination address and my wallet and they match

obviously a transaction sent is logged what about when it arrives in wallet? is that logged other than locally?

<coffeeroaster "CLI Android install: install it "> Sorry it took a while "$ file monero-wallet-climonero-wallet-cli: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /system/bin/linker64, with debug_info, not stripped"

Is this just unheard of? RE XMR not arriving in wallet? is there anyway to debug this?

It's heard of a lot. The two main reasons are:

- your daemon and/or wallet isn't done syncing/scanning

- your wallet is set to ignore everything before a certain block that's after your tx

For the second problem, type "set" in monero-wallet-cli, then check the value of refresh-from-block-height.

If it's a value larger than 2.26 million, try setting it to 2.5 million and issue: rescan_bc

For the first problem, type "status" in monero-wallet-cli, check it claims it's at about 2.2657 million.

i'll work with that for now, I haven't used monero-wallet-client yet so ill give those a go. thanks

you can also do this with the GUI

go to settings -> info, click on "(change)" next to wallet restore height and then on ok twice

then wait until a full refresh is done

dav: I've had a miner today reporting that a payment from my pool didn't hit his mymonero wallet too. I verified it's on the chain. he can see subsequent TX though. maybe their service has a problem atm

that worked. thanks, i can rest now! cheers guys

The refresh-from-block-height one ?

yes

How did you originally create this wallet ?

in MyMonero

Well, glad it's all good now :)

me to lol ☺️

monero got delisted on bittrex

any opinion?

alexhugo: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/kouacy…_of_anything_on_the_regulatory_side

hello

on how many places xmr can be sold

bisq one of the best

just is running in java and need lot of resource

sometimes dont play at all!

why i have always "pending" for transfer on new chain

even if i do relay tx nothing changes

when i do flush_Tx money are back in wallet

maraga: Which version of the wallet are you using?

the latest

Maybe your tx is invalid. Might hapen if your local daemon is not synced, or the db is shot in some specific way. Or you might be connected only to asshole nodes that don't relay txes.

tx is valid

im connected to one node and no issue on connection

Try downloading gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt, run ban @block.txt, then try again after you have a few connections.

is possible to choose from cli or daemon specific tx to mine?

No.

maraga: which node are you using?

im talking about new chain

Hi all, is it normal for sync_info to show several peers being 2 blocks behind? (e.g. 2265773 with current being 2265775)

Yes.

Regarding "generic" network attacks (not those specifically aimed at the p2p / rpc protocols) please check security.radware.com/ddos-threats-a…s/ddos-attacks-on-network-resources and blog.radware.com/security/2017/11/http-attacks I wonder if monerd would be susceptible to resource exhaustion attacks ...

It is.

Many attacks can be mitigated by a host with ddos scrubbing. UDP floods, iCMP floods, syn floods, Can all be mostly mitigated by a host with good ddos scrubbing.

People still spamming monero nodes?

I think so. I didn't look today.

But yesterday yes.

I haven’t updated for a few point releases

Did you guys implement auto ignore of known bad nodes?

My logs are back to normal atm so I don't see what's happened recently, but I assume they're still at it.

Or just delete p2plists?

Depends on your definition of auto, ignore, known and bad :)

yep, they are still doing this attack

Heh

There's a DNS based list of known bad nodes you can use to ban them, it's not default though.

Do we still have to manually block bad ip?

And various detection of various assholery, but this will never catch everything.

Why not default the bad nodes?

The chances of a good operator getting that IP is quite slim

monerofanboy I am asking because I was wondering if would be possible/effective to use HAproxy in front of monerod cbonte.github.io/haproxy-dconv/2.4/intro.html#3.1

Unless bad actor using vpn

It gives an attack vector of getting to write to that list and ban good nodes.

Yea

19 more days....

To follow up from earlier, an HAproxy would help to mitigate some attacks,but definitely not all. I.e., I tested a syn flood against my own POS consumer router and I was easily able to overwhelm my router. An HAProxy would help against to protect an attack like that, coming from one single remote attacker; however, an attacker who is sending an syn

flood from 25 hosts at once would saturate and overwhelm my bandwidth from my ISP.

So a HAProxy would help, but against a determined attacker, at some point, an HAProxy is no help at all.

This is where host ddos scrubbing from companies like OVH, Amazon, etc help a ton, because both Amazon and OVH and the bandwidth to withstand huge DDOS attacks and can scrub the traffic going into a VPS server, hopefully keeping the server from being ovewhelmed.

have the bandwidth*

Lyza: we might have found the freezing issue

or one more, don’t know if there are multiple

great news! it does seem like there might be a couple diff ones but idk. my nodes been behaving today

since earlier anyway

Lyza: hope your node freezes again so that we can get gdb output

seems like my freeze is due to a recent patch

where daemon block list?

0.17.1.8-release

omg

any way to ban all of them or do we have to run each one?

--ban-list /path/to_block_tor.txt

oh nice

or `ban @/path/to/block_tor.txt 99999999` when you want to reload it while monerod is running

hmm did not work

unknown command: --ban-list C:\Users\pathto\monero\block_tor.txt

oh duh have to start cli with that add on

try it on linux :]

like I said, or use the ban @path command

then you can use it after it is started

ban @C:\Users\pathto\monero\block_tor.txt 9999999

ahh good to go

selsta: i found another block list somewhere, but I'm wondering is there a place where the xmr community keeps this info in sync? or how does that work?

ban @C:\Users\PoopyDiaper\Desktop\Rando,\monero\block_tor.txt worked

haha

edi_: which one did you find?

one on reddit, but can't exactly remember the post

its much shorter than yours

(or the one you referred to)

gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt ?

ah, could be

this one is the same as the other, just without tor exit nodes

still getting the error 2021-01-02 19:11:59.123 E failed to find transaction input in key images. error on cli

yeah I think it is

ah oke, I figured it had smth to do with tor :)

with img number

but my next question , why/when are tor exit nodes problematic,

?

then 2021-01-02 19:11:59.124 E transaction id = <tx id number>

because someone uses them to send crafted packets

so we temporarily ban them

bigslim[m]: don’t think this is related to the ban list

oke, so how you deal with the problem that ip's can change quickly?

what are you trying to do?

running a node, safely :)

meant bigslim[m] :D

lol

yes, they can get new IPs, it is not a long term solution

selsta: no this has been here since IIRC 17.1

it happens only after I update to latest version and run the first time. Then after I do not get the errors.

so just updated to 17.8 and got the errors, now restarted daemon and no errors

maybe its picking up the wrong chain tx's from back then or something.

selsta: so if you run a node without the blocklist, what's the worst that can happen?

Currently, your node crashes if it doesn't have renough memory, which is something like a couple dozen GB I think ? Not sure about the number.

32 GB ok :)

Well, more like killed by the OOM killed, but same differnce.

64 GB definitely enough. 4 GB definitely not enough.

I've seen 39 GB used on a 64 GB server with .8 release

jeesh

I do not think I have ever used more than maybe 20gb at a time and thats running 4 VM and 2 daemons at the same time

i limit my node at 4GB

+/-

but it runs on a machine with more overhead

so it's some weird sort of DDOS attack they're employing? or what do they hope to accomplish

bring the network down?

:]

no clear goal, probably just disruption and annoying node operators

but it’s good if it causes us to find and fix issues

i've got my own node, so i've never used someone else's node. when you use simple wallet mode, for instance, and your node just connects to another one, what happens if it connects to a rogue node. couldn't the rogue node just have a completely wrong blockchain?

exactly, free bug bounty :)

so you could be bamboozled into making transactions that never happen at the very least, by relying on someone else's node. is this not true?

h2017: i'm not sure how this exactly works, but I *assume* your node doesn't rely on a single another node

h2017: if you use the strangers node they can feed you wrong information, yes

remote node*

h2017, i notice that it relies on bootstrap mode, where your monerod instance connects to a node. is it a single other node that it connects to, or a bunch (as edi was saying).

Single.

so there is no way to be sure that you are not connecting to one of the attacker's node's when you run your wallet in simple mode

i was wrong, I understood you talked about node <-> node comms

edi i think i used wrong terminology

but there I'm pretty sure you got it right, if you connect your wallet to a rogue node

there isn't really a way of knowing

right

so the recommendation is to run your own node for maximum security

yes

not just security but transactions that will actually go onto the blockchain

you might be right, not sure on that one

edi, the rogue node could just trick you into accepting everything you do and then throwing it away

okay

or making stuff up with it's own fake blockchain

so in theory its possible for an attacker to fake the xmr blockchain

and have your authentic xmr sent to his "fake network"

so you lose all that money?

no you wouldn't lose it i don't think

but you would be fooled into thinking you had transacted on the real monero blockchain

you might lose your sanity

oke, haha

afaik he can fool you into thinking that you received monero that you didn’t receive

maybe its more intel gathering than attacking?

but he needs to mine some blocks to do it, right? As many blocks as the number of confirmations you need

So if you're a merchant and accept 0-conf transactions, attacker can eclipse your node, send a tx to you and send the same output to himself on the real network

this is about using an attacker remote node

hmm

this is why we use our own nodes

This is the way

this is the way.

kinda random

i guess its for people who hodl'd altcoins other than monero