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mechanic41turk[m
ComplyLast: great handle!
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marmulak
has anyone ever figured out the best way to compress data.mdb (I mean for like backup / long term storage)
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marmulak
I thought it wouldn't compress well but it seems like it can be but it's so slow that one needs to consider speed as well as compression ratio
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marmulak
like on my system depending on the utility and settings we're look at difference between something like 20 minutes and 4 hours
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fluffypony
lol thrmo
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ComplyLast
:)
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hstl
sup, homiez
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hstl
is there a channel where i can talk about Grin coin?
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ComplyLast
yes, in matrix I think
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hstl
what do you guys think about Grin coin?
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marmulak
in matrix there is #cryptonote:matrix.org at least, don't know about a Grin-specific community
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marmulak
but why would you even want to talk about that
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ComplyLast
flawed economics, better for scaling that monero, worse privacy
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ComplyLast
marmulak, I'm pretty sure there is a mimblewimble/grin channel
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Inge-
very cool to try out mimblewimble
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hstl
ComplyLast, privacy is worse?
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Inge-
oh DeFi smart contracts march from victory to victory - is future:
twitter.com/warpfinance/status/1339751975450267648
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marmulak
hrm I found a grin room on matrix with only three people in it
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ComplyLast
try mimblewimble marmulak, I'm sure there was a pretty active one at some point
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marmulak
oh are they the same thing? name change?
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hstl
I think that Grin coin can do x100 in price. Or something like that
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hstl
ComplyLast, mimblewibmle is a method
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ComplyLast
they're not the same things marmulak, mimblewimble is a protocol, grin was the first implementation
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marmulak
ok yes found #mimblewimble:matrix.org there's like 1.5k people in it, it appears to be bridged to something called Glitter
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marmulak
maybe it's originally a glitter chat
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ComplyLast
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marmulak
interesting
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hstl
it will for sure do, i think. It will be like Zcash and Monero
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marmulak
so that's who thrmo is
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ComplyLast
that's a discussion better suited for #monero-markets
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ComplyLast
Zcash has corporate backing, including an overlap of investors with exchanges
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marmulak
zcash is that so-called privacy coin that comes with privacy turned off and you can't really turn it on
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ComplyLast
I'd be surprised if Grin goes anywhere. In no small part due to the flawed economics (which makes it a PIA to bootstrap a network) and interactive transactions
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marmulak
I like interactive
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ComplyLast
me too, if I'm playing an online video game or something like that.
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hstl
ComplyLast, what is PIA?
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ComplyLast
pain in the ass.
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marmulak
wait are you saying crypto isn't an online video game
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ComplyLast
That's exactly what I'm saying, Neo.
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marmulak
I thought it was a hacker simulation for fun
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hstl
ComplyLast, by "flawed economics" you mean emission? 1 coin in 1 sec?
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ComplyLast
only Doge
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ComplyLast
hstl, yes
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marmulak
every second a grin is borned
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marmulak
wb ferretinjapan
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ComplyLast
ferret lives
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hstl
ComplyLast, yes, but do you understand that to double amount of Grin coins in market we will need another 2 years?
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hstl
and then 4 years
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hstl
etc
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ComplyLast
I do understand that, surprisingly.
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hstl
it was important in first month, but it become less and less important
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hstl
the chart of Grin coins amount becomes flat by the time
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marmulak
haha ComplyLast understand geometric progression
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hstl
many people don't understand that
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hstl
people were buying it in January 2019, at the start
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hstl
in a hope to make money
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marmulak
keepin it cheap through inflation is the way to go
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marmulak
it's not practical for a crypto to be very expensive
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hstl
real usability doesn't matter.
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hstl
it will do x100 either way
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marmulak
but you said it will do x0.5 soon
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ComplyLast
seems like a solid conclusion
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marmulak
after global nuclear war monero is going to do like x1000000000
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marmulak
or x0
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marmulak
possibly
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ndorf
9mm
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ndorf
oops
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WangPong41
If only one of you gave Papa ChooChoo some TLC there, instead of ignoring him, none of this would have happened
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WangPong41
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hstl
marmulak, ComplyLast is the "Matrix" messenger is where cryptoenthusiasts summon?
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marmulak
Eeeeeh
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marmulak
I'd say it's more of an IRC scene or Discord depending on the project
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Frenn_
About GUI updater "3 out of 4 DNS server must indicate a new update is available." Can i have the dns for my bash updater ? for now i only use updates.moneropulse.org
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selsta
Frenn_: grep monero source for moneropulse
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Frenn_
nice idea thx
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gingeropolous
<marmulak> after global nuclear war monero is going to do like x1000000000 , i hope we have that radio internet figured out by then
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marmulak
tchya! way ahead of you
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marmulak
there's already internet on the radio
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h2017
hi
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h2017
setting up a trezor for use with monero
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h2017
i'm seeing that you have to create a new wallet from hardware. why can't the monero gui client just talk directly to the trezor? why does it have to create it's own wallet (based on the trezor wallet) in the first place?
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haxx0r
different seeds and stuff.
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h2017
so? if the trezor has sufficent information to create the wallet, why is the monero wallet needed?
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h2017
i'm seeing that its because monero wallets contain all kinds of extra stuff
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h2017
which are already on the blockchain
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h2017
some of it anyway
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h2017
The wallet-name stores all other wallet data (also encrypted with your wallet password), such as:
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h2017
All the outputs belonging to the wallet, which are found by scanning the blockchain when you're refreshing the wallet. To avoid having to do the scanning every time, the wallet stores them once found.
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h2017
more than just priv keys
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h2017
but hypothetically
wallet.trezor.io could do all that stuff too but i guess it doesn't at the moment
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h2017
all that matters is that you can get your monero priv keys from your trezor and you can do that
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endor00[m]
your pc is faster at scanning stuff and (iirc) stores the tx data and metadata, while the Trezor only worries about signing transactions
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h2017
endor00[m], yeah i'm trying to work out what does what.
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guestblabla
Hi guys, is it possible to download the current monero blockchain for windows clients somewhere? Because syncing takes long on my machine
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VashTheStampede
have you looked on reddit?
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guestblabla
Yes, but just got hints for a bootstrap or using an ssd
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guestblabla
set block_sync_size to 10 also did not help very much
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guestblabla
ports and firewall are set correctly
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selsta
it takes a long time without ssd
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ndorf
IME it always takes longer to import the bootstrap than to sync
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guestblabla
syncing also takes 5 days
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guestblabla
even using pruned blockchain from scratch
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selsta
pruning still verifies the whole blockchain
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selsta
it just uses less space
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ndorf
best bet is to just wait the 5 days. then keep a local backup of the blockchain so you never have to do it again
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ndorf
you can use remote node to transact in the meantime
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ndorf
SSD is obviously recommended if you can. aside from syncing, creating transactions will be much faster as well
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guestblabla
ok. a question for understanding why do the first 20 percent go fast as hell and the last 10 percent of the blockchain sync take long and do not use my whole internet bandwidth?
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selsta
the blockchain got more use later so it takes longer to verify
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selsta
"does not use my whole internet" <-- it is busy verifying, this is where an SSD would speed things up
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guestblabla
ok. a question for understanding why do the first 20 percent go fast as hell and the last 10 percent of the blockchain sync take long and do not use my whole internet bandwidthh?
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hyc
the first 20% were mostly empty blocks
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hyc
selsta already answered you guestblabla