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rbrunner
Can somebody with the necessary rights (e.g. pigeons) please restart the Mattermost-to-IRC bridge? It fell over yesterday or so. Thanks!
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shirley_huang[m]
Did anyone else here get a link to
monero-badcaca.net from zfwytvlvvpc (PM on chat.freenode.net)?
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binaryFate
no, but it's not surprising. They keep spamming this around
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charolastra
yeah, got it. wtf is it?
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shirley_huang[m]
from what I understand badcaca believes that monero is not as secure
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shirley_huang[m]
And I looked at the author, they are promoting their own fork of monero, called Ryo
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sech1
It's a fork of a fork of Monero
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sech1
actually
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shirley_huang[m]
Fork of a fork, okay
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shirley_huang[m]
Monero --> ??? --> Ryo
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shirley_huang[m]
What was before it?
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sech1
Fireice has a long history of throwing dirt and hating Monero, disclosing critical bugs before they were fixed etc.
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sech1
and now actually attacking the network
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charolastra
and who buys porn with monero so he can doxx 100 guys per day?
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sech1
Monero --> Sumokoin --> Ryo IIRC
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shirley_huang[m]
Yeah well
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sech1
and his shitcoin has 25% (or probably more now) devtax
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shirley_huang[m]
Sure, Monero may have vulnerabilities but I don't think the team is as malicious or incompetent as this FireIce person makes it out to be
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shirley_huang[m]
I say this without bias, I just found this out
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shirley_huang[m]
But looking at his social media and motives I can already tell he's kind of sketchy himself.
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azy
theres no evidence his findings are correct, he's pointing to someone else's service to do the porn correlation
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shirley_huang[m]
The porn correlation thing sounds like bullshit
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sech1
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shirley_huang[m]
It's like assuming that the monero network or wallet is caching my browsing habits
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shirley_huang[m]
I mean, I checked my own IP, it's not there.. Kek
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sech1
Exaggerating and straight up lying to harm Monero is what he's been doing for years now
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shirley_huang[m]
Apparently he also accused the monero subreddit of being racist and neo-nazi
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shirley_huang[m]
Like if you're that kind of person how can I expect you to argue in good faith
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shirley_huang[m]
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shirley_huang[m]
even wownero makes fun of them
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shirley_huang[m]
RYO: We don't need to promote ourselves because we feel that people who truly care about privacy will find us eventually, instead we fund people to attack and harass monero communities
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shirley_huang[m]
What cows
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shirley_huang[m]
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shirley_huang[m]
RYO: We don't need to promote ourselves because we feel that people who truly care about privacy will find us eventually, instead we fund people to attack and harass monero communities
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shirley_huang[m]
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shirley_huang[m]
RYO: We don't use funds to promote ourselves because we feel that people who truly care about privacy will find us eventually, instead we fund people to attack and harass monero communities
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shirley_huang[m]
also shit, apologize for my neko blocking some of the text in the screenshot, lmao
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hmmp
anyone else getting spam to private about url monero-badcaca dot net (user zfwytvlvvpc)? "You can now check how many paedophiles thought Monero is private. 100 new IP addresses, transaction details and user's porn preferences published every day. Check if your transaction is on it today."
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artefact
how is this guy not banned from freenode yet
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artefact
we had some spam about that yesterday in the channel
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shirley_huang[m]
lol yeah I was talkin about it just now
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asymptotically
artefact: he keeps making new accounts
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artefact
i wonder if there's a user mode for blocking notices/privmsgs from tor accounts
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dEBRUYNE
<shirley_huang[m]>
twitter.com/fireice_uk/status/1159908175384109056 <= He got banned from r/monero because he offered funds to people to cause disruption
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dEBRUYNE
needmoney90 has a screenshot somewhere
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manifest
hmmp: yes :D
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dEBRUYNE
artefact: You can block non-registered accounts
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asymptotically
you can set +R on yourself, but they are all registered :(
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artefact
yes that's fairly useless against that dEBRUYNE :(
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azy
his shitcoin is vulnerable to the same attack, no?
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azy
im not sure of his point, other than to seed fud
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asymptotically
azy: yes, it's just monero but with a devtax and different pow
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asymptotically
and no users to hide among :P
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artefact
and the obvious monetary benefits means fud/shilling is inevitable
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dEBRUYNE
Ah, didn't know they were registered
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shirley_huang[m]
what is a devtax
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shirley_huang[m]
lol
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rbrunner
I doubt it's still possible to reliably collect that dev tax, with a daily volume of the coin around USD 200, according to CMC
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rbrunner
And yes, like hmmp I had that splendid message thrown at me personally here today for the first time
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ErCiccione
Nothing says "I'm just a researcher not a malicious actor" more than spamming freenode rooms and users -_-
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azy
juding by how many likes his tweets get, he should be ignored
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ErCiccione
I agree about not giving him a stage, but bullshit should be always called out.
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artefact
never mind the obvious confict of interest
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Inge-
shirley_huang[m]: dev tax is where some of the coinbase reward in a transaction does not go the miner, but to some other adress controlled by the devs or an org behind the coin - like the BCH fork just recently was due to introduction of a tax where some % of the block reward goes to others than miners.
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shirley_huang[m]
oh wow
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shirley_huang[m]
does monero have one?
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rotten
no.
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shirley_huang[m]
kek
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shirley_huang[m]
imagine being forced to pay taxes even on crypto
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artefact
it's somewhat more honest than huge premine, at least
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shirley_huang[m]
25%+ tax is still pretty big
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asymptotically
it's not when your coin is worthless :p
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artefact
let them believe in their "get rich quick" scheme. it's fairly harmless
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artefact
and filters out idiots naturally
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jess
hmmp, manifest: pm spam?
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jess
both from zfwytvlvvpc?
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gingeropolous
rehrar, ping
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shirley_huang[m]
yeah
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jess
shirley_huang[m]: you too?
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shirley_huang[m]
Yeah
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jess
could you PM me a copy of the spam
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shirley_huang[m]
ok
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manifest
i aint gotten no PMs yet, only saw it spammed on -markets
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shirley_huang[m]
jess: well i invited you
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jess
invited me to what
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jess
the matrix bridge is very strange
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shirley_huang[m]
pm
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jess
ya i didnt see anything
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shirley_huang[m]
wtf??
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shirley_huang[m]
you didn't get it?
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jess
I (and other freenode staff) will welcome further reports of PM spam
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selsta
jess: any other idea what we can do against Tor spam apart from setting all channels to +m?
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jess
i did make a recommendation about that to someone today
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selsta
okay, might have missed that
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binaryFate
selsta these things are best discussed in private
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selsta
sure
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KiloLima
What's xmr badcara?
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moneromooo
Someone is running lots of nodes to sybil the network.
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moneromooo
And of course claims the sky is falling etc.
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ghost_matrix[m]
Im assuming everyone is getting spamed?
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selsta
when did you get the spam?
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ghost_matrix[m]
About 5-10 mins ago
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ghost_matrix[m]
Roughly
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jess
network staff are looking in to it btw
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selsta
ty
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ghost_matrix[m]
I still don't understand the motive behind the FUD page though lol
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dEBRUYNE
jess: Thanks
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dEBRUYNE
fwiw, they also spam the channels if/once +m is removed
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jess
yeah i've seen that
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jess
very sad
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moneromooo
AFAICT it's to scare people into using his own fork, which is basically the same, but I suppose he hopes nobody will notice.
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dEBRUYNE
Having +m is not ideal, as it reduces participation (people often come in here simply to ask questions)
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moneromooo
Also seems to have a fixation on pedos and nazis so I'm not sure we should be expecting a motive really.
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KiloLima
hmm
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KiloLima
can't tell if i know this fireice guy
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Criispin
the sad part about badcaca is that ppl read about it and think it is a monero only problem...
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ghost_matrix[m]
Yeah the page is just damn weird and ill informed. Sounds mad as hell lol.
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moneromooo
Parts of it are made worse by using dandelion - which trades DoS resistance vs privacy.
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moneromooo
Few currencues have that. So in that sense it affects monero more. In other senses, less.
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moneromooo
I think it's also preying on people's expectation from the bitcoin world that a txid gives access to everything, where with monero it is not the case.
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rbrunner
People reported today on Reddit finding their tx on that caca website, but with a wrong IP. Dandelion++ (still) doing its job, at least in part :)
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Criispin
yep thats what i am trying to tell ppl now that even if you could in some way link txid <-> ip (which is really unrealistic) you are not transparent
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ghost_matrix[m]
I don't understand why this person is fear mongering.
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ghost_matrix[m]
There is an obvious motive judging by the tone in there writing.
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ghost_matrix[m]
Its odd
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KiloLima
if the guy
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KiloLima
is who i think it is
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KiloLima
he's a pretty smart guy and could be elluding to something that cannot be mentioned openly
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binaryFate
stop giving it attention
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moneromooo
then you'll stay away. This is what we need privacy, to avoid nutjobs like this finding us in real life and stalkng us.
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KiloLima
I dunno why the intense focous
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KiloLima
tho
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rbrunner
In other (depressing) news, that fake Android MyMonero app is back in the Play Store for about the 7th time. Excellent job, Google.
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jonathancross
<selsta "when did you get the spam?"> I also just got spammed. Sorry, didn't note the ransome username.
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jonathancross
*random... Not "ransome".
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selsta
ok freenode stuff is looking into it
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selsta
staff
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bfbfbfff
hello
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Lyza
yo
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a_cow
Definitely mooo.
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» a_cow waves mooodbye
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rbrunner
binaryfate: Maybe not working?
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binaryFate
no it's cool, we're just having fun
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a_cow
Or maybe a cow is not in the moood
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rbrunner
Lol
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rotten
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marxS
hello
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marxS
I am trying to use monerujo but I keep getting error "Node connection failed! Check username/password"
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marxS
I am wondering if it is due to different versions (maybe related to hard fork/upgrades)
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marxS
all of the nodes are public (I have tried 10+), so the username/password part of the error message is erroneous
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dEBRUYNE
Can you try using node.xmr.to with port 18081?
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marxS
returns "Node invalid"
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marxS
lol
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marxS
for ping tests with the node, I get one of ~65ms and the rest return CONNECTION ERROR
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dEBRUYNE
What kind of connection are you on?
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marxS
I can't even retrieve my private key, monerujo seems to require connection to a node to do so
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marxS
and I am on home Wi-Fi
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marxS
I will try with mobile data
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dEBRUYNE
Can you check whether mobile data makes a difference?
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marxS
same error of Node Connection Failed
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marxS
:(
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marxS
sucks how I can't even find a way to retrieve my private keyl ol
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asymptotically
marxS: do you have your seed words written down?
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marxS
asymptotically no, but I have the wallet on the app and the accompanying password
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marxS
that should be sufficient to display seed and private key
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marxS
but the app seems to force connection to a node to do so
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marxS
very strange, I created a new wallet in the app and it connects fine to the public nodes, so not really sure where the issue lies
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marxS
maybe my original wallet has been corrupted or something
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marxS
kind of sucks, but not the end of the world
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binaryFate
marxS check if you can update monerujo, sounds like you might have a wrong versino
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marxS
binaryFate there's no update available in google play store
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marxS
and I'm not aware of any apks floating around
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marxS
strange how everything works fine when creating a new wallet, but original wallet bugs out
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binaryFate
I'm sure you tried to close app and reopen again? Just to make sure you run latest one
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marxS
yeah
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marxS
and have restarted phone, etc
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binaryFate
check on their subreddit maybe
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marxS
do you know any way to extract private key/seed so I can restore from fresh?
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marxS
and will check subreddit, thanks
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binaryFate
you can extract from somewhere in the app, I don't know/remember the details personally
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marxS
yeah, the only options in the app require connecting to a node though
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marxS
which is the issue here lol
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marxS
I will dig around in phone files and see what I can find
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marxS
any monerujo devs in here?
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marxS
I have my .keys file, not sure if there is much I can do with that?
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marxS
and an .unportable file
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nioc
wheever you make a wallet write down the mnemonic seed and put it somewhere safe, then write it down again and put it in a different safe location
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nioc
then do that a third time
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marxS
yeah
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marxS
that was my error, but in my defense I am still in possession of the wallet + the wallet password
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marxS
just the buggy app isn't letting me do anything with it
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asymptotically
be careful, monerujo does something silly with the key file that makes backups useless
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asymptotically
crazypass
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marxS
by requiring the master passowrd?
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marxS
even to view the crazypass you need to connect to a node lol
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marxS
I don't understand why, should all be stored (or derived) locally
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lza_menace
more monero nodes are here if you need more endpoints:
monero.fail
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lza_menace
that's about all the help I can be :P
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marxS
yeah , I think I'll give up for a while and hope the next update fixes it
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marxS
thanks for the help :)
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lza_menace
save that seed as soon as you can though, marxS!