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Karu97
Hi folks - apologies if this ends up being a false alarm, but I believe I may have been served a malicious installer from the official site. The hash sum does not match with the site contents, and the installer drops a trojan of some sort.
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Karu97
56a9c895eec48f1532e41d8f07e4f0749946359ad6375d7d981d6d3db6efd75b monero-gui-install-win-x64-v0.15.0.4.zip
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Karu97
should be 9b61fa807c66ebe3010869d1fa926fe033a2c82e6e660ca8acb75a8fba0248a0
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Karu97
a subsequent download of the same file validates as expected
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Karu97
sorry, that "should be" is 874ebbfcf79d09c60e2d85d09e5b8b971066c6355dfc2a5eca6d109d32e45ddb, previous was the zip version, my download was the installer
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Karu97
..and the download link gave me a zip for the installer. curious.
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d4ndo[m]
9b61fa807c66ebe3010869d1fa926fe033a2c82e6e660ca8acb75a8fba0248a0 is ok
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xmrscott[m]
Oh no. ERC-20 tokens are being used by Reddit. What is the world coming to
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cannon-c[m]
downloading from random exit node to check
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Karu97
this was over tor if that matters
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cannon-c[m]
only way to use internet
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d4ndo[m]
874ebbfcf79d09c60e2d85d09e5b8b971066c6355dfc2a5eca6d109d32e45ddb monero-gui-install-win-x64-v0.15.0.4.exe is ok
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cannon-c[m]
81AC591FE9C4B65C5806AFC3F0AF4D462A0BDF92 is this the correct GPG signing key fingerprint
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cannon-c[m]
for the signed hash file?
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Karu97
that validates
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Karu97
ok, so the problem isn't that a download link is serving garbage, the problem is that I wound up with a completely different file (there is no zipped installer that I can see)
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cannon-c[m]
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cannon-c[m]
yields a file called win64 and hash 9b61fa807c66ebe3010869d1fa926fe033a2c82e6e660ca8acb75a8fba0248a0 which is what shows in the signed hash file
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cannon-c[m]
I had to add .zip extension to that download
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Karu97
welp. guess it's time for me to nuke and reinstall. Thanks for checking!
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cannon-c[m]
you getting something different?
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Karu97
I only got the weird file the first time, upon redownload, I get a valid hash.
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cannon-c[m]
and windows installer, correct?
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Karu97
correct
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Karu97
there is no "monero-gui-install-win-x64-v0.15.0.4.zip" (installer ZIP, the official is an exe)
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cannon-c[m]
can someone else in here confirm if 81AC591FE9C4B65C5806AFC3F0AF4D462A0BDF92 is correct signing key though?
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d4ndo[m]
You can verify the hash file with gpg uising the key of binaryfate
github.com/monero-project/monero/tree/master/utils/gpg_keys
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cannon-c[m]
even if this is what the hash file shows as signed by, how can I veify this ? whos key is it?
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d4ndo[m]
81AC591FE9C4B65C5806AFC3F0AF4D462A0BDF92 is ok
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d4ndo[m]
cannon-c: try gpg --fingerprint --verify hashes.txt
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d4ndo[m]
cannon-c: gpg --verify hashes.txt
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d4ndo[m]
it shows the fingerprint.
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d4ndo[m]
Another topic. It seems that this site
xmr.llcoins.net/addresstests.html creates a wrong "Public Address". The first 128 Bit are ok but the last 128 Bit differ from the official Monero wallet.
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d4ndo[m]
I leave the Payment id ""empty.
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d4ndo[m]
Ups- Sorry. No it works fine.
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d4ndo[m]
I used it wrong.
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derpy_bridge
<[discord] RowanSkie#0432>: say, anyone online right now? I want to try making my monero node public but using my external ip fails to bind the rpc server
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Steven_M
Hi all, I've been on a big break, is the mymonero web wallet still running and recommended?
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endogenic
it is still running yes
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Inge-
hi Steven_M. No changes in wallet recommendations since you were last here I think.
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Steven_M
Hi Inge- , thanks. :)
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d4ndo[m]
Mymonero ist a downloadable wallet now.
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rbrunner
MyMonero is *also* a downloadable wallet now.
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neoflux[m]
Can Monero be implemented with IPLD? ipld.io
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neoflux[m]
Wouldn't this be like the Kovri?
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d4ndo[m]
If Bitcoin were the telnet of "client server protocols", then Monero is ssh.
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TrasherDK
Nah, d4ndo[m]: It's more like FTP compared to SFTP.
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TrasherDK
chroot'ed sftp :P
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d4ndo[m]
Running on OpenBSD.
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d4ndo[m]
I think the dev from OpenBSD invented those jails, didn't he.
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d4ndo[m]
Theo de Raadt
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TrasherDK
Really? Some BSD dude invented chroot?
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TrasherDK
Chroot was first utilized in the development of Unix version 7 in 1979. It was later added to BSD on March 18, 1982.
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d4ndo[m]
jails. The functionality was committed into FreeBSD in 1999 by Poul-Henning Kamp after some period of production use by a hosting provider, and was first released with FreeBSD 4.0. quote Wikipedia.
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d4ndo[m]
jails are chroot2.0
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TrasherDK
I wouldn't know about BSD, but those 20+ 3.5" floppies it took to install a base Minix system, I'll never forget.
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d4ndo[m]
3.5" is to old for me to know. Is it 1.44 MB?
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d4ndo[m]
I used CD already
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d4ndo[m]
We still had 56k Modem so i bought a linux CD from the book store.
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d4ndo[m]
Debain Something 2.4 Kernel i thiink.
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d4ndo[m]
or 2.6
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TrasherDK
To achieve maximum compatibility, you would have 5½" 360K/1.2M and 3.5" 720K/1.44M
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Inge-
^
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d4ndo[m]
Wow. That is nothing now a days. 360K
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d4ndo[m]
You could trade a gwbasic program with your friends. XD
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d4ndo[m]
or share
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d4ndo[m]
Do you guys think moore's law keeps up with this rate? So in ten years a Monero Blockchain can fit in your Wristwatch!?
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yanmaani
no
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d4ndo[m]
okay. And why do you think so.?
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TrasherDK
Anyone? Poly Pascal :)
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d4ndo[m]
The read-write speed is at the expense of capacity. <- my guess.
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TrasherDK
read-write speed, buy more RAM.
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d4ndo[m]
To volatile for my blockchain.
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TrasherDK
Buy better hardware then.
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TrasherDK
Cluster - Mirror -Cache. What kind of load are you expecting?
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d4ndo[m]
5000 MBit/s read/write an it should fit in my wristwatch.
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hyc
5-1/4" floppies, not 5-1/2
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TrasherDK
Okay. Buy some iCrap. Those guys probably have some pr-material that matches your specs.
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hyc
I guess that smartwatches today have maybe reasonable compute capacity
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hyc
but not so hot on battery life to execute all that
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d4ndo[m]
I guess not. As long it is not repairable.
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TrasherDK
Yes. RandomX for your Apple watch. I can't wait.
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hyc
bleah :P
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hyc
but I could certainly see running a wallet on your watch, at some point
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hyc
not sure it's the right goal. having wallet&fullnode on your phone is probably enough
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d4ndo[m]
Maybe in ten years we laugh about the standard hard drive of 2-4 TB from today.
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hyc
but you could run wallet-rpc on your phone, and have a wallet-rpc client on your watch
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TrasherDK
But that Asbestos to protect you from 3rd. degree burns are not helthy.
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hyc
huh?
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TrasherDK
Running a wallet and a full node on your wrist watch. That's going to burn a few electrons.
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d4ndo[m]
Doesn't the power consumption decrease if the transistor size gets smaller?
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hyc
eh? I said wallet+node on your phone, wallet client on watch
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d4ndo[m]
that should work
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d4ndo[m]
Transmit a view bytes to the phone.
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TrasherDK
Why not go full monty. Storage is cheap.
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hyc
watch battery power is too limited
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hyc
easy to do a low energy bluetooth link to phone, to talk to wallet-rpc
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hyc
asking for more than that would be too much of an energy drain
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d4ndo[m]
The trend is towards online shopping. So I prefer to use my PC.
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d4ndo[m]
And I like Monero as internet money. Whether it can exist in the offline world against cash and instant transaction is still to be seen.
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d4ndo[m]
Sorry for the bad english- i sometimes use a translator.
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TrasherDK
So, the next big thing in hardware wallets is going to be the iMonero wallet? Preferably communicating on a private censorship resistant mesh network.
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d4ndo[m]
That sounds pretty neat.
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d4ndo[m]
*is off. haveing a call in a minute.
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neoflux[m]
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neoflux[m]
Here is An Empirical Analysis of IPFS Linkability in the Monero Blockchain, if someone wants to check it out. Let me know what you think.
bafybeidz4p265oyhfjv5uugxp42fli6qtt…wljr6lbgsif3nsi.ipfs.localhost:8080
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TrasherDK
Maybe if you put it somewhere reachable.
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rbrunner
IPFS linkability? Don't understand. Something new, or still only that age-old "linkability" from pre-RingCT times?
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neoflux[m]
Irbrunner: It has now been implemented successfully with other blockchains and the IPFS is growing and being updated constantly.
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rbrunner
Sorry, still don't understand - what do you mean with "the IPFS". How is "the IPFS" growing, and what's the connection to Monero?
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rbrunner
My question simply was: Is somebody now hosting this paper on IPFS?
arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299.pdf
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rbrunner
If yes, that's very uninteresting.
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neoflux[m]
rbrunner: The IPLD
ipld.io
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rbrunner
Oh, that. I think somebody mentioned this already once today. Still I don't understand how that could help Monero. Our blockchain is doing quite fine, or isn't it?
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neoflux[m]
There is no connection. Nobody has tried it, but in theory it should work, because it works with all hash-linked data.
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neoflux[m]
I don't know. Maybe it can speed up synchronization.
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neoflux[m]
It's also used as an additional data layer
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rbrunner
Without going deeper this looks like a solution in search of a problem from a startup currently burning through VC money to me ...
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neoflux[m]
How would you for example implement Monero as a payment and reward mechanism for a virtual game show in the future?
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neoflux[m]
In real time on a live streaming platform.
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rbrunner
Simple. I won't. Monero would not work for this. And that's absolutely no problem. Anybody that pretends they have something that "works for everything" is only good in marketing, nothing more.
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rbrunner
We have already ton of in-game and in-system currencies, without any blockchain, permission-full instead of permission-less, trust-full instead of trust-less, but perfectly working for their use cases
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rbrunner
And it would be no problem to make such a currency convertible with Monero. Just offer an exchange mechanism.
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rbrunner
But alas, I guess "not sexy enough" as a solution. And probably won't get you any VC money :)
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neoflux[m]
rbrunner: But what about Kovri and the I2P? What's with that? Isn't this like an alternative solution to the I2P implementation?
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rbrunner
Things like these are just connecting Monero daemons with each other over something else than plain TCP/IP, in search of more anonymity. No new blockchain, no new messages from daemon to daemon, only the transport changes.
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rbrunner
You could also transport Monero transactions over carrier pigeons, if you understand what I hint at :)
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hyc
lol. we would need a UDP-style p2p protocol instead of current TCP/stream oriented
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hyc
then carrier pigeon would be perfectly usable
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a8_
what are the benifits to downloading blockchain vs remote node? other then mineing
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selsta
better privacy
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goldmine_compact
<a8_ "what are the benifits to downloa"> everything is much faster
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a8_
true
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a8_
thanks
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neoflux[m]
How about an own Social Media platform for the Monero community? Hydra is now open-source.
addthis.com/blog/2014/01/23/hydra-is-now-open-source
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hyc
preference seems to be to stay on reddit because rest of crypto community is also there
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yanmaani
There already are custom monero platforms, like mailing lists etc
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neoflux[m]
You know it's not the same thing. Specially for customers who don't like to read essays on a mailing list. (the majority of people)