after testing different solution i cant find how to log values here paste.debian.net/1141700

im not c++ guru unfortunately

any help please

Find some introduction to C or C++, plenty on the net. Read all of it before coming back to actual code.

You really want to know the basics of a language before tackling a non toy codebase.

^

the changes that i did are few and not deep

the only issue until now is chain to start with v12

i understand basic c++ just i have serious limits

How to print stuff should be in the first few chapters of any introduction really. Anyway, printing x: std::cout << x << std::endl;

i did that and i had errors

printf("%s\n", x);

i did this paste.debian.net/1141709 but didnt work

Remove the return. You probsbly want to log each bit separately though, since you already know the whole expression returns false.

And cast any uint8_t to unsigned or it'll print as char.

ok

changing of uint8_t to unsigned give errors

lets compile without?

i change header file too but give errors

because i remove return i have this now paste.debian.net/1141716

Lookup operator precedence.

we are doing online coding classes now? cool, more remote working options

no just moneromooo believe in someone that insist more than the average

You need to insist on the basics of C. The std::cout << return something << std::endl; thing screams "I have no idea what I'm doing".

A little learning...

You'll just waste massive amounts of time on that bug for no good reason.

how to find why is not starting with v12

i change everything

changed

genesis start,basic.h,hardfork.cpp,hardfork.h

all!

btw, what is the minor block version ? It should be 12 too. Could be that.

yes

i insert that on config!

major,minor 12

on config and basic.h

after changing even version of transaction prefix on basic.h i have new output

CHECK_AND_ASSERT_THROW_MES(count > 0, "count == 0");

It can't hurt to get a little involved with the Unix concept when learning C/C++. See "The Art of UNIX Programming" or "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment".

Hi, I need to make an anonymous transaction

I googled about anonymous currencies and most articles looks like they were written by journalists, not by people who know about digital currencies

they mentioned monero and other currencies and claimed that all of them are anonymous but in different ways

could anyone help men and post the link where I can read some proper descriprions?

me*

descriptions*

evgen_vasilev: Like how it works technically?

Or how to use it?

evgen_vasilev: this article compares monero and some other privacy coins, but it's probably a bit out of date now: moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

sorry, meant to paste the archive link instead: web.archive.org/web/20180926014112/…-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

yanmaani: I'm not sure but it's very strange that we have more than 1 anonymous currency

whatever helps me understand it :)

evgen_vasilev: there's 1 anonymous cryptocurrency and many get rich quick schemes :)

(for the developers, not for you)

^

asymptotically: and it's monero? :)

Grin maybe? But Monero is by far the most serious

Grin's good. Monero's good. Bytecoin and dash are scams. Zcash is weird, technically very good but seems to have then been used in a way to make money rather than make it good.

Zcoin I don't know, I *think* it's OK. Verge scam also.

The old zcoin protocol had a bug though.

I was replying to asymptotically's point about get rich quick. All currencies will likely have had bugs.

fair enough.

thanks, I'll read that post

some gems in a sea of copy and pasted faeces :D

Monero also had really bad bugs ...

Hello! I bought monero long time ago, transferred it from kraken to mymonero (when it was still just a website wallet) and then to monerujo, thinking maybe spend the monero at some vendor if i see one. Now i downloaded mymonero and restored monerujo seed and the wallet is empty, help?

It probably thinks it's a new wallet.

Is it mymonero running on your own machine, or using the mymonero server ?

Not sure, whats the default setting?

Dont think i changed anything

It synced all blocks i think, if thats the issue

I don't know.

Well, I think it's using the mymonero server, but you said "i downloaded mymonero", which hints at the opposite.

Try #mymonero, they'll know about it there.

Well, the appimage, and it loaded the near-0 mymonero balance just fine

K, thx

I recall the monero wallet as being notoriously unstable too

If you closed it while syncing, it would get stuck in a state where it thought it had synced, but hadn't

so your balance came up as 0

Mymonero has a 13 word mnemonic seed, doesn't it?

normal seed now

Ah - cool

""Just Use Monero" is insufficient"

Chaumian tumblers combined with a designated mining operation would probably fix this.

Can Ed25519 do blind signatures?

Bi didn't listen to podcast or even completely read tweet so...

Oh wait, it's out, he wasn't hyping up a talk

yanmaani: file a bug with details, doesn't ring a bell.

IIRC I talked about it earlier. If you let it sync completely, there's no problem.

But if you let it sync halfway, then it will make problems.

But yeah, will try to reproduce if it's a supported use-case

Run with --log-level 2 as well.

yanmaani: Closing wallet during sync and continuing later works fine.

Unless you found a special was to do it that breaks it.

way*

You have to kill it

with kill -9 or whatever OOM-killer uses

that’s not what I would call normal use case

Sure but it might happen

This was in remote mode, also

not a local node

Is SIGTERM Okay?

yes

yanmaani: can you still open bug report?

(if you can reproduce it)

Yeah, but I'll repro first

kill -9 should work. I don't really care about remote node though (unless it's yours and it just happens to be remote).

I've used ^Z+kill a lot, and I don't remember such bugs.

At some point it could have done that if saving to a full disk. I think it can't anymore.

alt print-screen f

sysq oom-killer

I don't think my kernel has the sysrq enabled, but still, 9 ought to do the same.

IRS: Interesting podcast. Didn't know Chainalysis run Bitcoin nodes.

I imagine they'd flag Tor-originated txns too

yanmaani: I would be surprised if they didn't run nodes.

maybe barium meal tests would be interesting

although I don't think you can do too much interesting stuff, nor easily check leakage

tbh it's odd nobody has run a Jim Bell system on them yet.

IRS: Monero discussion at 38:38

yanmaani: thanks

Scalability, hardforking, liquidity concerns, store of value nonsense

"Monero is less scalable. Why do we care? It's decentralization security. The nodes need much more processing. Monero can't be pruned like Bitcoin. It has an ever-growing list, so it can't delete them like Bitcoin"

"Disk space runs out much quicker"

"Another aspect is the cryptography. I remember gmaxwell commenting; if you scaled up Monero to have same tps as bitcoin, it couldn't run on normal computers, just big servers"

He's now talking about chaumian ecash, which he claims was information-theoretically private, and "wasn't decentralized enough"

"Monero are trading away security to get some privacy. That's a really bad trade-off."

Yeah was a pretty garbage discussion, as usual

"Hardforking is essentially centralizing around developers. Everyone has to hardfork at the same time."

Couched in falsehoods, outdated information, and common arguments

tiresome

They didnt make an effort

to be blunt, these people sound stupid

I hoped they would, as Chris Belcher has been pretty strong on privacy for a long time

like, they do not give the impression of being sharp folks

Nope...

now he's going on about the Spanish users

Yeah that was the worst

Im not even gonna comment on that lol

YOU CANT HARDFORK

THINK OF THE SPANISH SPEAKERS!

haha blockchain printer go brr

If only Monero had, ya know, translations

podcasts are truly the worst form of information

I dont agree

There are some that are extremely insightful and well worth the listen

sure, but if this were an article with normal sections, I could just briefly glance over it and see which bit is monero

with podcasts, I have to skip over it, like a barbarian

true

lol

podcasts test your listening skills. for the lazy, we don't like it. lets just get to the point in writing. :P

come on now

yea I don't usually listen/watch podcasts. Waste of time when reading is much faster

now he's claiming that Monero is less private than bitcoin

camthegeek++

because there are more people using bitcoin, and thus you have a larger anonymity set

do they intentionally head-hunt the most retarded people they can find and stick them in front of a mic?

The other issue, and why he said that, is because their ONLY viewpoint on why you would use Monero

Is as a mixer

BTC->XMR->BTC

didn't listen that far

Thus all the talk about "liquidity" even though XMR is more than liquid enough for 99.9% of people

They dont explicitly mention it yanmaani

but it's still stupid. Even if Monero is small, it's far larger than any single mixer

Well I imagine that's a use-case, sure. But how is the liquidity not good?

But thats what they're presenting between the lines, and is a common approach for maxis

I don't see anything wrong with that.

No, for sure, it's the approach I'd expect those massively invested in BTC to take

never looked into Livera. From his twitter bio it looks like he is a btc maximalist so I guess the podcast makes sense...

And its a valid way to use it

Especially while Bitcoin maintains massive network effect

No, the person whose bio you should look into is mr. Belcher

who has bags to pump, you see

But they didn't even talk about why you'd want to use Monero

Just why you shouldn't want to use Monero lol

They mentioned 0 positives of it.

There should be some channel like #monero-otc where you can trade XMR <-> XBT

incentives. The man is a developer of BTCpay server.

Thats what Bisq is for for small/normal users

and thjere are OTC counters for large amounts

Kraken has a large XMR OTC desk

those would be KYC'd up the wazoo

Its one of their largest sellers via OTC

Well yeah

Bisq is hot garbage

its... ok

But not ideal

seriously have you ever used it? Or have you just seen people talk about it?

I am a technologically competent person. I could not manage to post a transaction

Seriously, there is software out there developed by literal children which is far superior in UX. They messed up things I didn't even think possible.

its also just got rekt

oh yeah that too

I used it

It was not easy

and Im very technologically literate

Its gotten better since then though

But its still VERY MUCH for the techno-elite

But there aren't great DEX options for XMR/BTC

and there won't be until atomic swaps are possible IMO

DEXes are by and large frauds. Most of that space is ethereum people

nonsense its the future of money yanmaani

code is law! until one of my friends loses out, then we just roll back the chain :D

its law unless its a bug

and its beta software people so obvi we have to roll back

of course we could eat our own words and one day have this conversation for montero

Bisq is not bad, but it has mutated into bloatware.

And i don't like java.

The complete funciotnality is baked into the gui. Can't be seperated - ever.

yeah, which is super annoying for a service that needs to run constantly to participate in the exchange

yes.

I still use it though

no alternative.

u sell montero on there for dirty corn?

I sell or buy fiat for tainted Bitcoin. XD

Bitcoin still has fungibility by consent.

You shouldn't hodl it though

For XMR i use localmonero.co

via cash deposit.

ive always had success with cash deposit

not provable from your perspective that you made it though, other than video recording yourself in the bank or something

yeah. works great.

you can also wear a covid-19 mask.

theres a bit of a markup though, like 10%

or more

true.

in europe you can do a cash deposit in the grocery store.

oh? nice

im in england, ive not heard of that

They just scan a barcode on your smartphone and you pay the amount.

Without them knowing your name/address/phone number ? I'd sure pay 10% for that.

You do have to trust the store though. I wonder if the barcode is just an account number or a challenge/response...

Next step: find a phone with destroyed radio...

well you could just print out the barcode

True. The XMR seller sends me a jpg of the barcode.

That implies not a challenge response then. Anyone can pay from your account ?

And i get a receipt for the deposit.

10% fee? bloody hell

why not just send cash in mail? If you package it properly it's safe in 1st world countries

same 10-15%

why?

that's insane

because cash. i think it might be illegal/against bank tos to do it?

Why would the bank have any business?

You get cash in your mailbox, you send them the monero, then later you sell people monero for cash in their mail

at no point in time is a bank ever involved

It is not a 10% fee for the bank. It is a royalty for anonymity.

in that case i'm not sure the legality of changing cash for crypto

The bank gets 1%

yeah but still, it's not exactly a skilled business

same for the bank route, and you got their tos to worry about

take pieces of paper, shine a light on them, copy paste numbers into computer and press enter

azy: Why wouldn't it be? Money never enters the financial system

in your scenario it would be against govt tos

You take permissionless money (Monero) and turn it into permissionless money (cash). Criminals can't use it to launder money, since they're left with just another kind of toxic money.

Surely some countries have lax AML laws?

maybe theres good rates on cash deposit/mail there

So why can't I do cash in mail to the Cayman Islands?

maybe you can

Maybe there's just not enough liquidity

XD. Takes about 3 month.

The postal service on Cayman island is very unreliable.

if Monero just has $100m of daily volume, then at 1% fee you'd have to capture $300k per day to earn $9k a month

doesnt UPS do cayman islands?

Surely there has to be some country? I imagine you could set up the company in one place and the money handling in another

research it and start a business

or start a mail routing business in one of those places

hi I need help. I am having like 5 hours the same message in the monero gui "spendable funds 0.00000 XMR, please wait 20 minutes for your whole balance to become spendable

Do you have unspendable monero ?

no I received the last transaction 4 hours ago

I think there is a problem with the synconisation

although he is using all my bandwith to download the blockchain

showing 0/10 confirmation, though it was all sent and received propably

you have to be synchronized for things to be correct

aka you need to download the whole chain

Moneroho: are you using simple mode?

I am using the normal mode, where it shouldnt be necessary to have the full blockchain on my harddrive

can you go to settings -> info and look what wallet mode you are using?

simple mode ( bootstrap )

hmm does it mean i need to download the full blockchain ? but why it worked before

simple mode ( bootstrap ) uses a remote node but also downloads the full blockchain

you can close your wallet (top left corner), click on `change wallet mode` and select just simple mode

ah ok yes this one should work then ?

yes it should work

what does it say in the bottom left corner?

i am trying to click on change wallet mode, wait

should look like this usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/s…ot%202020-04-21%20at%2019.25.53.png

you can click on the two arrows to connect to a new remote node

I already tried several times

and it never looks like the screenshot. the Daemon blocks remaining sometimes fills up but waiting for daemon to sync always interrupts

did you select simple mode now?

I will try now, wait

ok

but until 5 hours ago it worked fine

0/10, and not unspendable ?

this is how it looks like

and now it looks like starting again, its all grey new

Moneroho: the first image looked correct, you have to wait until all blocks are scanned

all grey new? can you make a screenshot?

you see the waiting for daemon to sync and the daemon blocks remaining, just restarted, its never finishing

wait 1 minute or so

i am waiting 5 hours

that’s not what I meant

anyway you can try to set a remote node if you are having problems

change wallet mode to advanced mode, then open your wallet and go to settings -> node, select remote node and enter `node.xmr.to`port `18081`

hmm lets give it a try

the simple mode algorithm will be improved with the upcoming v0.15.1.0, some users have problem with it

I'd first close the wallet program and restart it.

See if the sync had maybe just stalled or something.

imgur.com/a/akXyYnl <-- it was correct in this picture

yes but it never finished to 100%, before finishing it just jumped back and then trying again and again

ok i changed to remote mode, actually 20000 blocks remaining, but it seems like working better now

lets see if its finishing

@Mochi101 i restarted the monero gui several times, always the same. in general its slow since 5 hours.

Did you look at the daemon (status, mostly) ?

in the morning and yesterday night i didnt have any problems. maybe its somehow related to my internet connection as its getting slower

It might be still syncing and grinding if you have a HDD. That'd make the GUI time out on RPC possibly.

@moneromooo do you mean the bar at the bottom left ? yes it progressed but at some point it just started again, the daemon is showing as synchronized though but the wallet blocks remaining never finished

the current simple mode algorithm connects to a random node but if the node is bad / spotty it does not change it

the new algorithm is better and will be included in v0.15.1.0

Its a SSD, but the computer is not really fast, I should try with another one maybe

I dunno about the GUI mostly. I'm just thinking it might be the daemon's being swamped.

OK, with a SSD it's probably not the reason.

I didnt try to restart the computer though, just the monero gui

wallet blocks remaining 16000.. just so slow

Moneroho, are you on windows?

no linux

Just start monerod

not the wallet

You'll be able to determine better what it is doing.

hmm its faster to sync ?

no

no, but it's more verbose

but you can do --prune-blockchain if you want to save space

FWIW IIRC if the daemon gets RPC spammed by a wallet while syncing, it can drop its sync speed substantially.

Should be better once someone who I forgot the nick gets that rw-lock patch in.

lets just wait until its fully sync, at least it seems like working now without overload and its syncing slowly but steadily

With just the daemon?

ok its working now, thanks to all

its a lot of smoother now

i have some 0 xmr transactions now, i suppose i see them because i activated advanced mode ?

did you send to yourself?

@selsta, no

Oh- wow. Just found this here: github.com/woodser/monero-cpp-library