00:31:55 <newyearday> after testing different solution i cant find  how to log values here http://paste.debian.net/1141700/
00:32:18 <newyearday> im not c++ guru unfortunately
00:32:27 <newyearday> any help please
00:33:29 <moneromooo> Find some introduction to C or C++, plenty on the net. Read all of it before coming back to actual code.
00:33:49 <moneromooo> You really want to know the basics of a language before tackling a non toy codebase.
00:34:13 <yanmaani> ^
00:39:32 <newyearday> the changes that i did  are few and not deep
00:39:54 <newyearday> the only issue until now is chain to start with v12
00:40:44 <newyearday> i understand basic c++ just i have serious limits
00:41:55 <moneromooo> How to print stuff should be in the first few chapters of any introduction really. Anyway, printing x: std::cout << x << std::endl;
00:43:35 <newyearday> i did that and i had errors
00:54:34 <yanmaani> printf("%s\n", x);
00:58:06 <newyearday> i did this http://paste.debian.net/1141709/ but didnt work
01:00:09 <moneromooo> Remove the return. You probsbly want to log each bit separately though, since you already know the whole expression returns false.
01:00:58 <moneromooo> And cast any uint8_t to unsigned or it'll print as char.
01:02:01 <newyearday> ok
01:22:44 <newyearday> changing of uint8_t to unsigned  give errors
01:23:01 <newyearday> lets compile without?
01:23:21 <newyearday> i change header file too but give errors
01:48:55 <newyearday> because i remove return i have this now http://paste.debian.net/1141716/
01:52:45 <moneromooo> Lookup operator precedence.
01:54:32 <hyc> we are doing online coding classes now? cool, more remote working options
01:55:37 <newyearday> no just moneromooo believe in someone that insist more than the average
01:57:24 <moneromooo> You need to insist on the basics of C. The std::cout << return something << std::endl; thing screams "I have no idea what I'm doing".
01:58:05 <yanmaani> A little learning...
01:58:15 <moneromooo> You'll just waste massive amounts of time on that bug for no good reason.
02:01:21 <newyearday> how to find why is not starting with v12
02:01:32 <newyearday> i change everything
02:01:36 <newyearday> changed
02:02:00 <newyearday> genesis start,basic.h,hardfork.cpp,hardfork.h
02:02:02 <newyearday> all!
02:04:23 <moneromooo> btw, what is the minor block version ? It should be 12 too. Could be that.
02:04:39 <newyearday> yes
02:04:53 <newyearday> i insert that on config!
02:05:07 <newyearday> major,minor 12
02:05:13 <newyearday> on config and basic.h
02:42:46 <newyearday> after changing even version of transaction prefix on basic.h i have new output
02:42:48 <newyearday> CHECK_AND_ASSERT_THROW_MES(count > 0, "count == 0");
05:31:45 <d4ndo[m]> It can't hurt to get a little involved with the Unix concept when learning C/C++. See "The Art of UNIX Programming" or "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment".
10:14:33 <evgen_vasilev> Hi, I need to make an anonymous transaction
10:15:10 <evgen_vasilev> I googled about anonymous currencies and most articles looks like they were written by journalists, not by people who know about digital currencies
10:15:45 <evgen_vasilev> they mentioned monero and other currencies and claimed that all of them are anonymous but in different ways
10:16:04 <evgen_vasilev> could anyone help men and post the link where I can read some proper descriprions?
10:17:44 <evgen_vasilev> me*
10:18:24 <evgen_vasilev> descriptions*
10:20:51 <yanmaani> evgen_vasilev: Like how it works technically?
10:20:55 <yanmaani> Or how to use it?
10:21:51 <asymptotically> evgen_vasilev: this article compares monero and some other privacy coins, but it's probably a bit out of date now: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php
10:22:03 <asymptotically> sorry, meant to paste the archive link instead: https://web.archive.org/web/20180926014112/https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php
10:41:39 <evgen_vasilev> yanmaani: I'm not sure but it's very strange that we have more than 1 anonymous currency
10:41:58 <evgen_vasilev> whatever helps me understand it :)
10:57:55 <asymptotically> evgen_vasilev: there's 1 anonymous cryptocurrency and many get rich quick schemes :)
10:57:59 <asymptotically> (for the developers, not for you)
11:02:04 <yanmaani> ^
11:02:05 <evgen_vasilev> asymptotically: and it's monero? :)
11:02:15 <yanmaani> Grin maybe? But Monero is by far the most serious
11:05:56 <moneromooo> Grin's good. Monero's good. Bytecoin and dash are scams. Zcash is weird, technically very good but seems to have then been used in a way to make money rather than make it good.
11:06:30 <moneromooo> Zcoin I don't know, I *think* it's OK. Verge scam also.
11:07:58 <d4ndo[m]> The old zcoin protocol had a bug though.
11:08:49 <moneromooo> I was replying to asymptotically's point about get rich quick. All currencies will likely have had bugs.
11:09:09 <d4ndo[m]> fair enough.
11:11:59 <evgen_vasilev> thanks, I'll read that post
11:12:28 <asymptotically> some gems in a sea of copy and pasted faeces :D
11:22:54 <Inge-> Monero also had really bad bugs ...
12:34:52 <wallettrouble> Hello! I bought monero long time ago, transferred it from kraken to mymonero (when it was still just a website wallet) and then to monerujo, thinking maybe spend the monero at some vendor if i see one. Now i downloaded mymonero and restored monerujo seed and the wallet is empty, help?
12:38:43 <moneromooo> It probably thinks it's a new wallet.
12:39:04 <moneromooo> Is it mymonero running on your own machine, or using the mymonero server ?
12:40:15 <wallettrouble> Not sure, whats the default setting?
12:40:23 <wallettrouble> Dont think i changed anything
12:40:42 <wallettrouble> It synced all blocks i think, if thats the issue
12:40:51 <moneromooo> I don't know.
12:41:28 <moneromooo> Well, I think it's using the mymonero server, but you said "i downloaded mymonero", which hints at the opposite.
12:41:58 <moneromooo> Try #mymonero, they'll know about it there.
12:41:59 <wallettrouble> Well, the appimage, and it loaded the near-0 mymonero balance just fine
12:42:09 <wallettrouble> K, thx
13:53:19 <yanmaani> I recall the monero  wallet as being notoriously unstable too
13:53:34 <yanmaani> If you closed it while syncing, it would get stuck in a state where it thought it had synced, but hadn't
13:53:39 <yanmaani> so your balance came up as 0
13:57:30 <d4ndo[m]> Mymonero has a 13 word mnemonic seed, doesn't it?
14:01:08 <selsta> normal seed now
14:01:24 <d4ndo[m]> Ah - cool
14:08:40 <IRS> https://twitter.com/notsofast/status/1252598922893307906
14:09:32 <IRS> ""Just Use Monero" is insufficient"
14:10:42 <yanmaani> Chaumian tumblers combined with a designated mining operation would probably fix this.
14:12:05 <yanmaani> Can Ed25519 do blind signatures?
14:12:28 <IRS> Bi didn't listen to podcast or even completely read tweet so...
14:16:03 <yanmaani> Oh wait, it's out, he wasn't hyping up a talk
14:16:23 <moneromooo> yanmaani: file a bug with details, doesn't ring a bell.
14:16:49 <yanmaani> IIRC I talked about it earlier. If you let it sync completely, there's no problem.
14:17:05 <yanmaani> But if you let it sync halfway, then it will make problems.
14:17:20 <yanmaani> But yeah, will try to reproduce if it's a supported use-case
14:18:22 <moneromooo> Run with --log-level 2 as well.
14:19:57 <selsta> yanmaani: Closing wallet during sync and continuing later works fine.
14:20:08 <selsta> Unless you found a special was to do it that breaks it.
14:20:14 <selsta> way*
14:20:38 <yanmaani> You have to kill it
14:20:45 <yanmaani> with kill -9 or whatever OOM-killer uses
14:22:26 <selsta> that’s not what I would call normal use case
14:22:48 <yanmaani> Sure but it might happen
14:22:52 <yanmaani> This was in remote mode, also
14:22:55 <yanmaani> not a local node
14:22:56 <TrasherDK1> Is SIGTERM Okay?
14:23:02 <selsta> yes
14:23:50 <selsta> yanmaani: can you still open bug report?
14:23:55 <selsta> (if you can reproduce it)
14:23:58 <yanmaani> Yeah, but I'll repro first
14:24:21 <moneromooo> kill -9 should work. I don't really care about remote node though (unless it's yours and it just happens to be remote).
14:24:39 <moneromooo> I've used ^Z+kill a lot, and I don't remember such bugs.
14:25:10 <moneromooo> At some point it could have done that if saving to a full disk. I think it can't anymore.
14:25:20 <yanmaani> alt print-screen f
14:25:27 <yanmaani> sysq oom-killer
14:25:58 <moneromooo> I don't think my kernel has the sysrq enabled, but still, 9 ought to do the same.
14:26:04 <yanmaani> IRS: Interesting podcast. Didn't know Chainalysis run Bitcoin nodes.
14:26:15 <yanmaani> I imagine they'd flag Tor-originated txns too
14:27:37 <TrasherDK1> yanmaani: I would be surprised if they didn't run nodes.
14:30:29 <yanmaani> maybe barium meal tests would be interesting
14:30:55 <yanmaani> although I don't think you can do too much interesting stuff, nor easily check leakage
14:31:06 <yanmaani> tbh it's odd nobody has run a Jim Bell system on them yet.
14:51:23 <yanmaani> IRS: Monero discussion at 38:38
14:52:01 <IRS> yanmaani: thanks
14:52:11 <yanmaani> Scalability, hardforking, liquidity concerns, store of value nonsense
14:52:50 <yanmaani> "Monero is less scalable. Why do we care? It's decentralization security. The nodes need much more processing. Monero can't be pruned like Bitcoin. It has an ever-growing list, so it can't delete them like Bitcoin"
14:52:58 <yanmaani> "Disk space runs out much quicker"
14:53:29 <yanmaani> "Another aspect is the cryptography. I remember gmaxwell commenting; if you scaled up Monero to have same tps as bitcoin, it couldn't run on normal computers, just big servers"
14:54:15 <yanmaani> He's now talking about chaumian ecash, which he claims was information-theoretically private, and "wasn't decentralized enough"
14:54:35 <yanmaani> "Monero are trading away security to get some privacy. That's a really bad trade-off."
14:55:43 <fort3hlulz> Yeah was a pretty garbage discussion, as usual
14:55:54 <yanmaani> "Hardforking is essentially centralizing around developers. Everyone has to hardfork at the same time."
14:55:55 <fort3hlulz> Couched in falsehoods, outdated information, and common arguments
14:55:57 <yanmaani> tiresome
14:56:02 <fort3hlulz> They didnt make an effort
14:56:08 <yanmaani> to be blunt, these people sound stupid
14:56:15 <fort3hlulz> I hoped they would, as Chris Belcher has been pretty strong on privacy for a long time
14:56:16 <yanmaani> like, they do not give the impression of being sharp folks
14:56:20 <fort3hlulz> Nope...
14:56:28 <yanmaani> now he's going on about the Spanish users
14:56:32 <fort3hlulz> Yeah that was the worst
14:56:36 <fort3hlulz> Im not even gonna comment on that lol
14:56:42 <fort3hlulz> YOU CANT HARDFORK
14:56:47 <fort3hlulz> THINK OF THE SPANISH SPEAKERS!
14:57:00 <yanmaani> haha blockchain printer go brr
14:57:12 <fort3hlulz> If only Monero had, ya know, translations
14:57:56 <yanmaani> podcasts are truly the worst form of information
14:59:10 <fort3hlulz> I dont agree
14:59:18 <fort3hlulz> There are some that are extremely insightful and well worth the listen
14:59:43 <yanmaani> sure, but if this were an article with normal sections, I could just briefly glance over it and see which bit is monero
14:59:53 <yanmaani> with podcasts, I have to skip over it, like a barbarian
14:59:55 <fort3hlulz> true
14:59:56 <fort3hlulz> lol
15:00:53 <camthegeek> podcasts test your listening skills. for the lazy, we don't like it. lets just get to the point in writing. :P
15:00:55 <yanmaani> come on now
15:01:05 <IRS> yea I don't usually listen/watch podcasts. Waste of time when reading is much faster
15:01:05 <yanmaani> now he's claiming that Monero is less private than bitcoin
15:01:07 <IRS> camthegeek++
15:01:18 <yanmaani> because there are more people using bitcoin, and thus you have a larger anonymity set
15:01:59 <yanmaani> do they intentionally head-hunt the most retarded people they can find and stick them in front of a mic?
15:05:12 <fort3hlulz> The other issue, and why he said that, is because their ONLY viewpoint on why you would use Monero
15:05:13 <fort3hlulz> Is as a mixer
15:05:18 <fort3hlulz> BTC->XMR->BTC
15:05:31 <yanmaani> didn't listen that far
15:05:35 <fort3hlulz> Thus all the talk about "liquidity" even though XMR is more than liquid enough for 99.9% of people
15:05:41 <fort3hlulz> They dont explicitly mention it yanmaani
15:05:45 <yanmaani> but it's still stupid. Even if Monero is small, it's far larger than any single mixer
15:05:57 <yanmaani> Well I imagine that's a use-case, sure. But how is the liquidity not good?
15:05:57 <fort3hlulz> But thats what they're presenting between the lines, and is a common approach for maxis
15:06:19 <yanmaani> I don't see anything wrong with that.
15:06:34 <fort3hlulz> No, for sure, it's the approach I'd expect those massively invested in BTC to take
15:06:35 <IRS> never looked into Livera. From his twitter bio it looks like he is a btc maximalist so I guess the podcast makes sense...
15:06:38 <fort3hlulz> And its a valid way to use it
15:06:49 <fort3hlulz> Especially while Bitcoin maintains massive network effect
15:06:49 <yanmaani> No, the person whose bio you should look into is mr. Belcher
15:06:53 <yanmaani> who has bags to pump, you see
15:06:59 <fort3hlulz> But they didn't even talk about why you'd want to use Monero
15:07:06 <fort3hlulz> Just why you shouldn't want to use Monero lol
15:07:13 <fort3hlulz> They mentioned 0 positives of it.
15:07:13 <yanmaani> There should be some channel like #monero-otc where you can trade XMR <-> XBT
15:07:32 <yanmaani> incentives. The man is a developer of BTCpay server.
15:07:33 <fort3hlulz> Thats what Bisq is for for small/normal users
15:07:38 <fort3hlulz> and thjere are OTC counters for large amounts
15:07:47 <fort3hlulz> Kraken has a large XMR OTC desk
15:07:59 <yanmaani> those would be KYC'd up the wazoo
15:08:00 <fort3hlulz> Its one of their largest sellers via OTC
15:08:02 <fort3hlulz> Well yeah
15:08:04 <yanmaani> Bisq is hot garbage
15:08:09 <fort3hlulz> its... ok
15:08:11 <fort3hlulz> But not ideal
15:08:17 <yanmaani> seriously have you ever used it? Or have you just seen people talk about it?
15:08:31 <yanmaani> I am a technologically competent person. I could not manage to post a transaction
15:08:59 <yanmaani> Seriously, there is software out there developed by literal children which is far superior in UX. They messed up things I didn't even think possible.
15:09:04 <IRS> its also just got rekt
15:09:11 <yanmaani> oh yeah that too
15:16:22 <fort3hlulz> I used it
15:16:24 <fort3hlulz> It was not easy
15:16:29 <fort3hlulz> and Im very technologically literate
15:16:35 <fort3hlulz> Its gotten better since then though
15:16:40 <fort3hlulz> But its still VERY MUCH for the techno-elite
15:16:50 <fort3hlulz> But there aren't great DEX options for XMR/BTC
15:16:57 <fort3hlulz> and there won't be until atomic swaps are possible IMO
15:17:27 <yanmaani> DEXes are by and large frauds. Most of that space is ethereum people
15:44:14 <gingeropolous> nonsense its the future of money yanmaani
15:46:10 <asymptotically> code is law! until one of my friends loses out, then we just roll back the chain :D
15:46:46 <gingeropolous> its law unless its a bug
15:46:55 <gingeropolous> and its beta software people so obvi we have to roll back
15:47:15 <gingeropolous> of course we could eat our own words and one day have this conversation for montero
15:47:53 <d4ndo[m]> Bisq is not bad, but it has mutated into bloatware.
15:48:06 <d4ndo[m]> And i don't like java.
15:49:10 <d4ndo[m]> The complete funciotnality is baked into the gui. Can't be seperated - ever.
15:49:47 <gingeropolous> yeah, which is super annoying for a service that needs to run constantly to participate in the exchange
15:50:04 <d4ndo[m]> yes.
15:50:10 <d4ndo[m]> I still use it though
15:50:22 <d4ndo[m]> no alternative.
15:52:24 <gingeropolous> u sell montero on there for dirty corn?
15:53:10 <d4ndo[m]> I sell or buy fiat for tainted Bitcoin. XD
15:54:41 <d4ndo[m]> Bitcoin still has fungibility by consent.
15:55:05 <d4ndo[m]> You shouldn't hodl it though
15:55:53 <d4ndo[m]> For XMR i use localmonero.co
15:56:26 <d4ndo[m]> via cash deposit.
15:56:43 <azy> ive always had success with cash deposit
15:57:07 <azy> not provable from your perspective that you made it though, other than video recording yourself in the bank or something
15:57:43 <d4ndo[m]> yeah. works great.
15:58:16 <d4ndo[m]> you can also wear a covid-19 mask.
15:58:18 <azy> theres a bit of a markup though, like 10%
15:58:26 <azy> or more
15:58:31 <d4ndo[m]> true.
15:58:54 <d4ndo[m]> in europe you can do a cash deposit in the grocery store.
15:59:02 <azy> oh? nice
15:59:09 <azy> im in england, ive not heard of that
16:00:04 <d4ndo[m]> They just scan a barcode on your smartphone and you pay the amount.
16:03:29 <moneromooo> Without them knowing your name/address/phone number ? I'd sure pay 10% for that.
16:04:51 <moneromooo> You do have to trust the store though. I wonder if the barcode is just an account number or a challenge/response...
16:05:15 <moneromooo> Next step: find a phone with destroyed radio...
16:09:40 <azy> well you could just print out the barcode
16:10:10 <d4ndo[m]> True. The XMR seller sends me a jpg of the barcode.
16:10:26 <moneromooo> That implies not a challenge response then. Anyone can pay from your account ?
16:11:08 <d4ndo[m]> And i get a receipt for the deposit.
16:12:21 <yanmaani> 10% fee? bloody hell
16:12:34 <yanmaani> why not just send cash in mail? If you package it properly it's safe in 1st world countries
16:12:44 <azy> same 10-15%
16:12:56 <yanmaani> why?
16:12:58 <yanmaani> that's insane
16:13:20 <azy> because cash. i think it might be illegal/against bank tos to do it?
16:13:29 <yanmaani> Why would the bank have any business?
16:13:55 <yanmaani> You get cash in your mailbox, you send them the monero, then later you sell people monero for cash in their mail
16:14:13 <yanmaani> at no point in time is a bank ever involved
16:14:21 <d4ndo[m]> It is not a 10% fee for the bank. It is a royalty for anonymity.
16:14:24 <azy> in that case i'm not sure the legality of changing cash for crypto
16:14:28 <d4ndo[m]> The bank gets 1%
16:14:39 <yanmaani> yeah but still, it's not exactly a skilled business
16:14:42 <azy> same for the bank route, and you got their tos to worry about
16:14:55 <yanmaani> take pieces of paper, shine a light on them, copy paste numbers into computer and press enter
16:15:08 <yanmaani> azy: Why wouldn't it be? Money never enters the financial system
16:15:41 <azy> in your scenario it would be against govt tos
16:15:41 <yanmaani> You take permissionless money (Monero) and turn it into permissionless money (cash). Criminals can't use it to launder money, since they're left with just another kind of toxic money.
16:15:55 <yanmaani> Surely some countries have lax AML laws?
16:16:20 <azy> maybe theres good rates on cash deposit/mail there
16:16:40 <yanmaani> So why can't I do cash in mail to the Cayman Islands?
16:17:06 <azy> maybe you can
16:17:17 <yanmaani> Maybe there's just not enough liquidity
16:17:21 <d4ndo[m]> XD. Takes about 3 month.
16:18:08 <d4ndo[m]> The postal service on Cayman island is very unreliable.
16:18:43 <yanmaani> if Monero just has $100m of daily volume, then at 1% fee you'd have to capture $300k per day to earn $9k a month
16:18:45 <azy> doesnt UPS do cayman islands?
16:19:07 <yanmaani> Surely there has to be some country? I imagine you could set up the company in one place and the money handling in another
16:33:28 <azy> research it and start a business
16:34:49 <azy> or start a mail routing business in one of those places
17:14:36 <Moneroho> hi I need help. I am having like 5 hours the same message in the monero gui "spendable funds 0.00000  XMR, please wait 20 minutes for your whole balance to become spendable
17:15:15 <moneromooo> Do you have unspendable monero ?
17:16:04 <Moneroho> no I received the last transaction 4 hours ago
17:17:10 <Moneroho> I think there is a problem with the synconisation
17:17:28 <Moneroho> although he is using all my bandwith to download the blockchain
17:18:18 <Moneroho> showing 0/10 confirmation, though it was all sent and received propably
17:19:04 <selsta> you have to be synchronized for things to be correct
17:19:18 <IRS> aka you need to download the whole chain
17:19:40 <selsta> Moneroho: are you using simple mode?
17:21:35 <Moneroho> I am using the normal mode, where it shouldnt be necessary to have the full blockchain on my harddrive
17:22:29 <selsta> can you go to settings -> info and look what wallet mode you are using?
17:23:02 <Moneroho> simple mode ( bootstrap )
17:23:36 <Moneroho> hmm does it mean i need to download the full blockchain ? but why it worked before
17:24:07 <selsta> simple mode ( bootstrap ) uses a remote node but also downloads the full blockchain
17:24:31 <selsta> you can close your wallet (top left corner), click on `change wallet mode` and select just simple mode
17:24:37 <Moneroho> ah ok yes this one should work then ?
17:24:49 <selsta> yes it should work
17:25:14 <selsta> what does it say in the bottom left corner?
17:25:46 <Moneroho> i am trying to click on change wallet mode, wait
17:26:02 <selsta> should look like this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/skT1tQWc/Screenshot%202020-04-21%20at%2019.25.53.png
17:26:22 <selsta> you can click on the two arrows to connect to a new remote node
17:27:32 <Moneroho> I already tried several times
17:28:14 <Moneroho> and it never looks like the screenshot. the Daemon blocks remaining sometimes fills up but waiting for daemon to sync always interrupts
17:28:41 <selsta> did you select simple mode now?
17:28:47 <Moneroho> I will try now, wait
17:28:50 <selsta> ok
17:29:45 <Moneroho> but until 5 hours ago it worked fine
17:36:45 <moneromooo> 0/10, and not unspendable ?
17:43:32 <Moneroho> https://imgur.com/a/akXyYnl
17:43:39 <Moneroho> this is how it looks like
17:44:15 <Moneroho> and now it looks like starting again, its all grey new
17:44:35 <selsta> Moneroho: the first image looked correct, you have to wait until all blocks are scanned
17:45:08 <selsta> all grey new? can you make a screenshot?
17:48:18 <Moneroho> https://imgur.com/a/tgCWoJu
17:49:06 <Moneroho> you see the waiting for daemon to sync and the daemon blocks remaining, just restarted, its never finishing
17:49:49 <selsta> wait 1 minute or so
17:50:07 <Moneroho> i am waiting 5 hours
17:50:54 <selsta> that’s not what I meant
17:51:07 <selsta> anyway you can try to set a remote node if you are having problems
17:52:12 <selsta> change wallet mode to advanced mode, then open your wallet and go to settings -> node, select remote node and enter `node.xmr.to`port `18081`
17:53:01 <Moneroho> hmm lets give it a try
17:53:50 <selsta> the simple mode algorithm will be improved with the upcoming v0.15.1.0, some users have problem with it
17:55:42 <Mochi101> I'd first close the wallet program and restart it.
17:55:55 <Mochi101> See if the sync had maybe just stalled or something.
17:56:45 <selsta> https://imgur.com/a/akXyYnl <-- it was correct in this picture
17:57:34 <Moneroho> yes but it never finished to 100%, before finishing it just jumped back and then trying again and again
17:58:52 <Moneroho> ok i changed to remote mode, actually 20000 blocks remaining, but it seems like working better now
17:59:06 <Moneroho> lets see if its finishing
18:01:07 <Moneroho> @Mochi101 i restarted the monero gui several times, always the same. in general its slow since 5 hours.
18:01:46 <moneromooo> Did you look at the daemon (status, mostly) ?
18:01:47 <Moneroho> in the morning and yesterday night i didnt have any problems. maybe its somehow related to my internet connection as its getting slower
18:02:41 <moneromooo> It might be still syncing and grinding if you have a HDD. That'd make the GUI time out on RPC possibly.
18:03:35 <Moneroho> @moneromooo do you mean the bar at the bottom left ? yes it progressed but at some point it just started again, the daemon is showing as synchronized though but the wallet blocks remaining never finished
18:04:25 <selsta> the current simple mode algorithm connects to a random node but if the node is bad / spotty it does not change it
18:04:35 <selsta> the new algorithm is better and will be included in v0.15.1.0
18:05:26 <Moneroho> Its a SSD, but the computer is not really fast, I should try with another one maybe
18:05:28 <moneromooo> I dunno about the GUI mostly. I'm just thinking it might be the daemon's being swamped.
18:05:51 <moneromooo> OK, with a SSD it's probably not the reason.
18:06:24 <Moneroho> I didnt try to restart the computer though, just the monero gui
18:06:47 <Moneroho> wallet blocks remaining 16000.. just so slow
18:09:47 <Mochi101> Moneroho, are you on windows?
18:10:06 <Moneroho> no linux
18:10:41 <Mochi101> Just start monerod
18:10:45 <Mochi101> not the wallet
18:11:11 <Mochi101> You'll be able to determine better what it is doing.
18:11:16 <Moneroho> hmm its faster to sync ?
18:11:21 <selsta> no
18:11:25 <Mochi101> no, but it's more verbose
18:11:33 <selsta> but you can do --prune-blockchain if you want to save space
18:12:47 <moneromooo> FWIW IIRC if the daemon gets RPC spammed by a wallet while syncing, it can drop its sync speed substantially.
18:13:12 <moneromooo> Should be better once someone who I forgot the nick gets that rw-lock patch in.
18:13:18 <Moneroho> lets just wait until its fully sync, at least it seems like working now without overload and its syncing slowly but steadily
18:15:23 <Mochi101> With just the daemon?
18:40:31 <Moneroho> ok its working now, thanks to all
18:40:42 <Moneroho> its a lot of smoother now
18:41:05 <Moneroho> i have some 0 xmr transactions now, i suppose i see them because i activated advanced mode ?
18:41:44 <selsta> did you send to yourself?
18:43:21 <Moneroho> @selsta, no
19:36:46 <d4ndo[m]> Oh- wow. Just found this here: https://github.com/woodser/monero-cpp-library