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misys
is this the right channel to troubleshoot monero?
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misys
i just started using monero and i cant synchronize at all
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moneromooo
Yes.
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misys
all of my connections to other peers get timed out or are refused
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moneromooo
Are you using an old version ? Current is 0.15.something.
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misys
0.15.0.1
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misys
update check says no updates are available
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moneromooo
How much did you wait ?
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misys
its been about 30 minutes since i last restarted monerod, and the current connection is 314
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moneromooo
Do you have log level >= 1 ?
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misys
im at log level 4 right now
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moneromooo
Set log level 1 and paste a couple minutes of logs.
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moneromooo
Not here. On some paste site.
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misys
ok, gimme a few minutes then
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misys
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moneromooo
Looks like pastebin start blocking tor again. Try fpaste.org or paste.debian.net.
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misys
fpaste.org seems to have been sold, its just ads, and paste.debian.net is down
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misys
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misys
works with tor without javascript on my machine
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moneromooo
Yes, I got it, thanks.
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moneromooo
Looks like it's connecting to very few, and it's waiting a while between each try. Have you ever connected to the monero network with this system ?
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misys
no, this is my first time using monero
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moneromooo
So it looks like you can't reach any seed. I'm going to give you some random IP off my peer list...
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misys
using windows 10, and installed using the gui install, but ive just been using monerod from the install directory to troubleshoot
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moneromooo
Try adding this to the monerod command line: --add-peer 195.154.199.185:18080
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moneromooo
If it succeeds, it'll download a whole set of new peers from it.
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misys
do i restart monerod to do this?
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moneromooo
Yes.
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moneromooo
Once it's succeeded once, you don't need to use this option again.
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misys
2020-02-18 00:31:39.118 I Synced 20552/2035953 (1%, 2015401 left) means its syncing, right?
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moneromooo
Yes.
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misys
alright, thanks!
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while
I am new to monero (but have run a bitcoin full node for over a year now), my monerod seems to produce a long list of connect failed messages with network logging enabled, and has no peers
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while
Iv'e so far run it for about 10 minutes, is this normal?
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as2333
<moneromooo> Try adding this to the monerod command line: --add-peer 195.154.199.185:18080
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as2333
while
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while
thank you, also why does monerod try so many peers that don't work?
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as2333
I dont have the slightest idea =) - Somebody had that same problem a few hours ago - I just copypasted the solution
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gingeropolous
hrm. 2020-02-18 13:43:22.728 [P2P4] ERROR net contrib/epee/include/net/abstract_tcp_server2.inl:1324 Some problems at accept: Too many open files, connections_count = 65507
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asymptotically
gingeropolous: don't you get a warning when you start the dameon or wallet about a low open file limit?
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gingeropolous
i did not.
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gingeropolous
well, i run the daemon via systemd most of the time
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asymptotically
oh, i do. i should probably increase it
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asymptotically
and rebuild unbound with threads
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moneromooo
65k connections is a lot. What does status report ?
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gingeropolous
it was unresponsive
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moneromooo
What does /proc/$PID/fd report ?
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moneromooo
nvm, that one will be ~65k.
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gingeropolous
bitmonero.log was just a flood of that error message. I restart after I increased the file limit after some googling
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moneromooo
That looks like either DoS or leak.
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gingeropolous
well the conf file has out-peers set at 1024
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gingeropolous
this is/was the old xmrchain node, i think the idea was that to present the best state of the network need many peers
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gingeropolous
i still don't know if thats wise
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xmrwallet_xyz
Guys I released new MYmonero clone wallet --->
xmrwallet.xyz
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moneromooo
What are the differences ?
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moneromooo
(if any)
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xmrwallet_xyz
moneromooo: is open source and free. No fees
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moneromooo
Differences from mymonero I meant.
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asymptotically
mymonero doesn't have fees either does it? (other than the transaction fees to miners)
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xmrwallet_xyz
subaddress support, qr code scanning
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moneromooo
I can't find it. There's just a login link.
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xmrwallet_xyz
u have to login with your key
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moneromooo
lol.
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moneromooo
Is it a scam ?
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xmrwallet_xyz
no
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charuto
no (yes)*
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asymptotically
xmrwallet_xyz: it tries to make requests to localhost so it doesn't work on my system
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xmrwallet_xyz
asymptotically: okay, one second
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xmrwallet_xyz
please re-try now
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asymptotically
ah sorry, it looks like it tries to access 58.185.155.109login instead of 58.185.155.109/login (it just showed up in umatrix as localhost)
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xmrwallet_xyz
we've some problems at our backend, not good
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xmrwallet_xyz
try now asymptotically>
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asymptotically
cool it works now :)
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xmrwallet_xyz
good
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> I got an address for a new wallet that does not start with a 4, but with fh3mdy... That can't be right?
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moneromooo
That seems not right indeed.
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selsta
I’ve seen a lot of phishing sties with similar design.
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selsta
Not saying that it is phishing, just saying.
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selsta
sites*
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asymptotically
looks like it's an address for
xwp.one
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> And why does it give me 2645227 as current Monero chain tip?
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xmrwallet_xyz
fixed, and fixed
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Ah, I got, so modern a wallet, it's far in the future :)
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moneromooo
Are you sure you're running monero ? :)
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xmrwallet_xyz
I've ran a local Monero daemon v0.14
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moneromooo
Not gonna sync the recent past.
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> As a trivial, small mistake. Peanuts.
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Wrong chain, can happen to anyone :)
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xmrwallet_xyz
wrong chain?
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xmrwallet_xyz
what does that mean to?
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moneromooo
Yes. Like, Bitcoin is the wrong chain if you want privacy. And Monero is the wrong chain if you're an exhibitinist I guess.
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Yes. Monero blockheight is 2036362, not 2036362
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xmrwallet_xyz
could u accept my post on reddit?
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> sorry 2645249
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moneromooo
rbrunner7 is making my head hurt...
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xmrwallet_xyz
lol
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Not sure what "fixed, and fixed" meant before, but my second attempt to create a new wallet again gave me a strange address: fh3ezXAGhiuU57aTtDo46eT9rwRhtWFjQZT5mvnZasSZFaf9RsKFh8AMYD591j96AYFxbqr6jajAtFKDH4jcirG42gKR9nE2U
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xmrwallet_xyz
u should refresh the page
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xmrwallet_xyz
I edited the wrong configuration file
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moneromooo
Oh you meant you're trying that site ? nvm, I thought you were reporting something unrelated :D
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Yes, indeed.
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> xmrwallet_xyz, do you know the saying "You never get a second chance for a first impression"?
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xmrwallet_xyz
no
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Well, you are now well into your first impression here, and it looks a little .... mixed?
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SerHack
xmrwallet_xyz: that website looks strange, why do you connect to a php page on the login page?
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Maybe rest a little after a 50-hour programming marathon, test everything thourougly, and then introduce again?
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moneromooo
Well, at least it's circumstancial evidence it's not a scam. Scams typically work well since they take your money :D
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Lol
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Yeah, with everybody getting the same static (and correct!) address
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xmrwallet_xyz
the php form is for managing seeds
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Something unexpected occurred when sending funds: Failed to resolve DNS records for 'donate.getmonero.org': [object Object]
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xmrwallet_xyz
it needs some fixing
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Not my fault, it gives that as an example after all ...
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xmrwallet_xyz
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Login goes to
wallet.mymonero.com for me, regardless of what I give on the field "Your Private Login Key"
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> You mean you insist on putting up a thread on Reddit, with *this* state of the wallet? Jesus.
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selsta
xmrwallet_xyz: I think you should fix the wallet first.
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selsta
At this point it looks like scam / phishing.
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xmrwallet_xyz
I m not a phisher
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selsta
All caps title does not help.
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Well, as moneromooo said, not even looking like a scam, because it simply does not work, sorry
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Can't login, with a valid seed that I got from the wallet a mere minute ago.
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xmrwallet_xyz
please retry
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Why on earth does it redirect me to mymonero?
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xmrwallet_xyz
what error do es it give?
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> No error, just sends me to mymonero.com. And I tried, after a hard reload with Ctrl-F5, no change
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> And still wrong address generated and wrong blockchain height
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xmrwallet_xyz
weird
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selsta
Did you copy the HTML/CSS from MyMonero? Is their code open source? If not, I’d suggest to write your own.
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xmrwallet_xyz
probably while coping I have touched something
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> I tried now with Firefox instead of Chrome, so caching should not catch us, and exactly the same problems.
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jogn
hi guys, I've monero gui that tells me "can't connect to daemon"
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selsta
If you want to launch a legit wallet: test thoroughly before release and make sure to not copy code that isn’t open source.
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selsta
jogn: Where does it say that message?
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> But say, what chain is this, with a height of 2645321. It seems live, when I started it was 2645249
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Monero Classic?
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SerHack
that guy is a scammer rbunner7, anything on the login form is sent to connect.php via POST
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> And that page "connect.php" could not be legit?
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xmrwallet_xyz
no i am not I am using php to manage the seeds
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selsta
Why would it send the seed to a server?
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selsta
MyMonero does everything client side.
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selsta
Only view key is sent to server.
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xmrwallet_xyz
to display the funds
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asymptotically
SerHack: D: it didn't do that when he first posted it. first thing i checked was network tab
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SerHack
mh, that's interesting.. from what I can see, it seems he changed only the login modal
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asymptotically
weird that there's a whole web wallet running on that site but when you log in now it just redirects you to mymonero.com :S
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SerHack
too weird
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asymptotically
and yeah the full seed is sent to that connect.php
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selsta
lol
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asymptotically
well, time to flood that script with tonnes of fake seeds :D
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selsta
posting a phishing site on IRC is a new low
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SerHack
lol look at their code "Undefined index: Login-Key in /var/www/phi/connect.php"
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selsta
All the mymonero phishing sites look exactly the same and have similar domains
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asymptotically
there was walletmonero.com which had quite a nice new style on it
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selsta
mymonero now has a different style anyway
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selsta
and desktop / mobile apps
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asymptotically
yeah mymonero is bootiful now <3
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selsta
I bet he wanted to get his Reddit post approved
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selsta
that’s why he posted it here
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xmrmatterbridge
<cankerwort> Is xmr.to blocked in any EU countries?
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needmonero90
selsta: mods ain't dumb :)
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needmonero90
Usually.
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selsta
:D
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needmonero90
sgp_: mind killing the r/cc post?
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needmonero90
Hm. Actually it shouldn't have even made it through your filters to begin with
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needmonero90
Yup, ignore me, it didn't get through the 500 post karma gauntlet
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charuto
cankerwort dont believe so
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endogenic
thx asymptotically just watch <3
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sgp_
needmonero90: yup, filtered
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gingeropolous
hrm, this 20 minute wait time is rearing its ugly head for a business solution im working on
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needmonero90
Just split your funds ^tm
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gingeropolous
oh, sorry, u guys are screening that new wallet
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gingeropolous
well u can't split your funds if you just bought them
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sgp_
I'm not sold at all on this "just split your funds" crap. Sometimes you need to pay for things that cost more than play money
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needmonero90
New wallet is screened, it is skem
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gingeropolous
the use case is the medical marijuana dispensaries that can currently only accept cash
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gingeropolous
you plop an atm in there
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needmonero90
Sgp_ that was why I added tm
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needmonero90
It wasn't totally serious
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gingeropolous
and then get the dispensary to accept crypto
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sgp_
I got it :)
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gingeropolous
problem is, you recommend monero, people can't go immediately from the ATM to the point of sale to make their purchase
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gingeropolous
well i guess thats true of bitcoin anyway, would have to wait for confirmation
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charuto
hm is there anything like opendime for monero?
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needmonero90
Would sub-blocks work?
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needmonero90
Pulling up the proposal
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needmonero90
I know that's vague
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gingeropolous
charuto, not yet. the inability to check whether something has been spent by just looking at the chain makes the opendime concept kinda difficult
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sgp_
gingeropolous: ATMs in every home, buy on the way out
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charuto
i'm convinced that offchain physical crypto transactions are the future of cash
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charuto
thanks gingeropolous
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gingeropolous
charuto, did u see my manic offchain concept from... a couple weekends ago?
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charuto
nope
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gingeropolous
it would require wrapping our heads around a non zero sum economy
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charuto
care to share?
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gingeropolous
hrm lemme find it
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charuto
i think most people would agree that economy isnt a zero sum game
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gingeropolous
bah can't find it
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charuto
it's bit really a controversial statement
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charuto
it's not really a *
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needmonero90
Wait
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gingeropolous
basically, you turn monero keys that have mined blocks into something of value
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needmonero90
So
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needmonero90
The issue with using txes too quickly is privacy impact - if you know it was spent, then it's use in future rings impacts their privacy
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asymptotically
gingeropolous: couldn't the xmr opendime show you the private view key along with the public keys? then you can check the balance of it
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needmonero90
Unless there's something I'm missing
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gingeropolous
so, if i mine a solo block, i can then give you the keys to that, even if I transferred the monero out of the keys, you can prove to someone that you own a wallet that has mined a block
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needmonero90
What if we made a second-class tx type, that only uses txes in its ring from that window?
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needmonero90
So if you want to send a tx immediately after receiving, you use a tx only from recent outs
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gingeropolous
furthermore, there could be a way to make the mined block indicate how much time it took to mine
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charuto
asymptotically private view key only shows incoming transactions, not outgoing, without key images, it's not reliable for checking balance
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asymptotically
charuto: but no funds are coming out of it. you don't get the spend keys until you break it open
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charuto
hmm
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charuto
also im pretty sure you can check if there are missing key images or not
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gingeropolous
so, it works in a non zero sum way, because there's no way for me to prove that i've destroyed access to those keys
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charuto
so yeah, dont really get with opendime couldnt work with xmr
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gingeropolous
charuto, yeah opendime might work
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gingeropolous
but i also think it has a centralization problem
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gingeropolous
once we can create a protocol where anyone can mint their own cash, sure
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gingeropolous
but until then its centralized with all of the shortcomings of centralization. "Oh, I don't trust monerodime thingers. I only use xmrpenny devices"
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gingeropolous
im sure some 3D printed thing could pop into existence
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charuto
make it open source with public schematics and it's pretty decentralized imo
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gingeropolous
yeah
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charuto
same argument can be made against hw wallets, but they're still extremely valuable
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gingeropolous
to some. i don't understand them
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Quotes
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gingeropolous
are there any fully functional monero points of sale?
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gingeropolous
i think the GUI can kinda do it right?
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selsta
Depends on what fully functional means.
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selsta
GUI has a PoS, yes
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gingeropolous
heya, if anyone wants to try it out, checkout the sftp server on test.moneroworld.com
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gingeropolous
you should be able to upload stuff to it
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gingeropolous
the whole point is to upload corrupt blockchains
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gingeropolous
u can checkout the webpage at same address for credentials
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asymptotically
gingeropolous: i left a nice message
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kinghat
thanks for finding me 100xmr
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gingeropolous
lols
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kinghat
ill take payment in 10confirms plz
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gingeropolous
hrm, it seems i should change some things
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gingeropolous
welp, i did that wrong. i'll let yah know when i figure out how to do this properly
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azizLIGHT
is it normal to see a lot of "peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 9999999 instead of 12) - we may be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed"
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asymptotically
azizLIGHT: was discussed earlier in #monero-dev. it's not a problem with you or your node, just someone else on the network being silly
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dEBRUYNE
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selsta
you can do `ban IP -1` to ban the IP for a long time
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azizLIGHT
where exactly do i do this selsta ?
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selsta
in the daemon console
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nioc
selsta: -1 works?
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azizLIGHT
seems to have worked for me nioc
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nioc
thx
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selsta
Not sure if intended. -1 --> UINT32_MAX -> 4294967295 seconds
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selsta
unless there is a hidden forever option it is the max value
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nioc
I was just using a "reasonable" number of seconds
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nioc
there is no forever value but max just might do :D
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nioc
AIUI the bans reset when you restart the daemon
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selsta
yep appears so
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kinghat
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xmrwallet_xyz
Check out the new wallet --->
xmrwallet.xyz
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selsta
xmrwallet_xyz: again?
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selsta
^ seed stealer
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xmrwallet_xyz
no not a steal
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manifest
xmrwallet_xyz: your hosting account got suspended
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manifest
lel
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> It was such a funny thing to play with.
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manifest
i kinda wanted to poke at it too but too late i guess
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xmrwallet_xyz
wanna the domain?
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> rofl
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moneromooo
But but... he says it's not a scam... I don't understand... Was he mistaken and he didn't realie it was a scam ?
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Quotes
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manifest
the transfer key? wut
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Mochi101
xyz is so bad
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xmrwallet_xyz
I have tried to scam guys
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xmrwallet_xyz
good game guys
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manifest
did you get any seeds
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manifest
did you make mad money
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xmrwallet_xyz
only the seeds spammed in my email by rburner
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asymptotically
the last mymonero clone waited a few weeks before adding in a seed stealer
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manifest
omegalul
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asymptotically
xmrwallet_xyz: that was me
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moneromooo
Oh damn. Sorry about that. I hope you don't feel too bad about it. But don't worry, it's a common thing. So many accidental scams in the space. See dash, bytecoin... All these people scammed by mistake :(
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asymptotically
each one went into your email?
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xmrwallet_xyz
yea, it seems hosting suspended me because i was seending too much emails
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selsta
LOL
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moneromooo
:D
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> A very unlikely end, I would say
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manifest
oh wow
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asymptotically
oh, sorry. i thought that you'd write them to a database or file or something
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manifest
5/5
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asymptotically
xmrwallet_xyz: did you create the xwp.one coin?
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xmrwallet_xyz
no i'm too poor to have one monero daemon
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xmrwallet_xyz
so i was looking for mymonero clone and then i copied the config from xwp.one
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Ah, I see, the blockchain really was Swap, with a height now of 2646563
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> not Monero classic
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endogenic
omegalulz
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> You should seel the film right to Hollyood for that story, brother
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> *sell
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endogenic
xmrwallet_xyz: if you're poor, like us, let's pool resources - we'll host the monero scanning for you ?
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xmrwallet_xyz
btw thanks for this chat, you guys were cool
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endogenic
when mymonero ico
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endogenic
asymptotically pls
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xmrwallet_xyz
endogenic: go for it
-
endogenic
go for … ?
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moneromooo
it.
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endogenic
ohhhh
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moneromooo
Glad to be of help.
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asymptotically
endogenic: 1 token = 0.01% share of the exit scam bounty
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endogenic
you know moo sometimes it's the really simple things.. that you actually knew all along..
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endogenic
asymptotically: equity is built waiting for 2023
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selsta
would a token that exit scams on itself work?
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selsta
recursive scam
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endogenic
that's how they work
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manifest
you think you're the big dog of the scam but then they throw you to the sharks
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xmrwallet_xyz
enjoy ur life guys do not waste ur time
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manifest
xmrwallet_xyz: stay safe
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Well, today sure was not a waste, that was splendid entertainment
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endogenic
it's always in the last place you look
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endogenic
no pain no gain
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xmrwallet_xyz
invest in life, not crypto
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endogenic
what is life
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> We are all living the blockchain life :)$
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xmrwallet_xyz
who are we
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endogenic
who do you mean "we"
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xmrwallet_xyz
human beings
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endogenic
we're each unique ..
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xmrwallet_xyz
i'll leave u with this doubt
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xmrwallet_xyz
MONERO IS THE REAL POWER BYE
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» endogenic pours one out
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Hooray
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manifest
the real G
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endogenic
what just happened
-
endogenic
i think i have ptsd now
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moneromooo
You poured one out.
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endogenic
oh
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moneromooo
Must have been a stiff one.
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endogenic
mooo's on point today
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manifest
well, i hope he learned something
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endogenic
that he can always count on mymonero hosting
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asymptotically
you mean you don't use bargain bin cpanel shared hosting?
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manifest
and to not use mail() for a form with your cheapest-i-could-find hosting solution
-
manifest
yes
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Exactly
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endogenic
haha dang
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manifest
ive found a few fake exchanges sitting on some average ass cpanel machines, scam/5
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endogenic
manifest: if anything that's the kinda stuff LE should go after imo :\
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manifest
endogenic: how i found em was """""password leaks""""" on pastebin
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endogenic
:\
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manifest
on withdrawal they had the "please transfer 0.02btc to register this wallet" or something as the catch
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manifest
its a níce scam in a nutshell, scamming someone who thinks they're stealing so no one says a word..
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Yeah, that's a psychologically very clever trick, grab them by their greed
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Miles ahead of "Send us 1 XMR, we send you 100"
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> "This wallet has 0.98 BTC on it. Withdrawal limit is 1 BTC." Draw your own conclusion how you can get rich :)
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ErCiccione[m]
What a read. LOL.
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hyc
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hyc
I still tend to think that telephone, electric, water+sewer are natural monopolies
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hyc
there's no point in creating multiple independent physical networks for them, for competing companies to operate
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hyc
it would just be a waste of resources
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hyc
so IMO, ideally they should be publicly owned monopolies
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hyc
but in telecoms industry, do you still need competition, to spur innovation?
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hyc
AT&T had Bell Labs, doing some pretty incredible research, before they were broken up
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hyc
but I'm not sure much or any of that research would have ever made it out to the public
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hyc
ISDN basically never got deployed in the US
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hyc
the telcos had to be dragged kicking & screaming into the fiber Internet age
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hyc
currently cable companies in US have regional monopolies. they trade ownership of the physical networks once in a while but any customer only ever has one cable company serving their area at a time
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hyc
I kinda feel like you should have at least 2 or 3 providers in every area. but again, they're all just using the same physical wires, so is there really any point?
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hyc
any opinions?
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hyc
the other alternative I suppose, is to have better remedies for unsatisfactory service.
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hyc
like, fine, you only have 1 provider in your area. but every time they have a service outage, they have to refund you for 10x the duration of the outage.
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hyc
so if you lose service for 3 days, they owe you the price of 30 days service.
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selsta
Once virtual providers were allowed here, mobile internet contract prices went down a lot.
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selsta
They added competition, even if the same infra was used.
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nioc
where I am there are 2 providers with independent infrastructure. It seems that most of the savings if from deals that you can get if you switch from one to the other. Very little savings for staying with your current provider.
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hyc
yeah there are MVNOs all over now, I guess. haven't really checked what advantages they offer.
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hyc
my current fiber internet is run by a virtual operator. my connection is PPPoE over the real network.
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nioc
there is a difference in the infrastructure and there fore service but don't know how much that affects most people
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hyc
so far it seems my router is able to run at nearly full speed, I get around 800Mbps for 1Gbit service
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nioc
seems my typos are becoming more common
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hyc
but I will probably switch to the main operator, since they also offer IPv6 and the virtual guys don't
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hyc
and I'm not really thrilled with the idea of pppd reading/writing packets at 800Mbps
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coppa
hyc : A good film about the subject
youtube.com/watch?v=zCGSiqow9k4
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hyc
thanks
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hyc
yeah overall I think I'd prefer if internet was publicly owned, non-profit.
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UkoeHB_
Solution to 20min delay is probably a credit-based system with an escrow service
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UkoeHB_
Lock up your funds with escrow, then pay out of credit, then pay the escrow service
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hyc
trusted 3rd party. boo.
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UkoeHB_
Fractional reserve monero here we come bb
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UkoeHB_
honestly fractional reserve might solve a lot of scaling problems :p
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UkoeHB_
s/solve/reduce
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as2333
UkoeHB_, how so?
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UkoeHB_
offloads a lot of transaction volume to intermediary book-keeping
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as2333
so called 'fractional reserve banking' is just worthless IOUs issued by some scammer - it's the problem, not the solution
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moneromooo
Hmm. That's a clever idea. IOUs mean they can be off chain. Scalable! Thanks for the idea as2333!
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moneromooo
To fix the "scammer" problem we'll just make it so the monero teanm issues them, they're trustworthy.
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as2333
moneromooo, But I can't take credit for it. I think the prize should go to UkoeHB_ =P
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» moneromooo feels affronted as2333 does not feel trolled -_-
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as2333
^-^
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UkoeHB_
thankfully I dont feel inclined to argue about economics today 🥱