00:04:50 is this the right channel to troubleshoot monero? 00:06:29 i just started using monero and i cant synchronize at all 00:06:41 Yes. 00:06:43 all of my connections to other peers get timed out or are refused 00:06:59 Are you using an old version ? Current is 0.15.something. 00:07:14 0.15.0.1 00:07:32 update check says no updates are available 00:08:21 How much did you wait ? 00:09:27 its been about 30 minutes since i last restarted monerod, and the current connection is 314 00:09:54 Do you have log level >= 1 ? 00:10:00 im at log level 4 right now 00:10:17 Set log level 1 and paste a couple minutes of logs. 00:10:22 Not here. On some paste site. 00:11:08 ok, gimme a few minutes then 00:15:49 https://pastebin.com/JrNWct91 00:16:47 Looks like pastebin start blocking tor again. Try fpaste.org or paste.debian.net. 00:22:04 fpaste.org seems to have been sold, its just ads, and paste.debian.net is down 00:22:06 https://controlc.com/ab9707dc 00:22:16 works with tor without javascript on my machine 00:26:21 Yes, I got it, thanks. 00:27:45 Looks like it's connecting to very few, and it's waiting a while between each try. Have you ever connected to the monero network with this system ? 00:27:57 no, this is my first time using monero 00:28:20 So it looks like you can't reach any seed. I'm going to give you some random IP off my peer list... 00:28:23 using windows 10, and installed using the gui install, but ive just been using monerod from the install directory to troubleshoot 00:30:14 Try adding this to the monerod command line: --add-peer 195.154.199.185:18080 00:30:31 If it succeeds, it'll download a whole set of new peers from it. 00:30:50 do i restart monerod to do this? 00:30:54 Yes. 00:31:19 Once it's succeeded once, you don't need to use this option again. 00:31:52 2020-02-18 00:31:39.118 I Synced 20552/2035953 (1%, 2015401 left) means its syncing, right? 00:32:06 Yes. 00:32:11 alright, thanks! 04:03:47 I am new to monero (but have run a bitcoin full node for over a year now), my monerod seems to produce a long list of connect failed messages with network logging enabled, and has no peers 04:04:00 Iv'e so far run it for about 10 minutes, is this normal? 04:06:26 Try adding this to the monerod command line: --add-peer 195.154.199.185:18080 04:06:37 while 04:08:02 thank you, also why does monerod try so many peers that don't work? 04:10:31 I dont have the slightest idea =) - Somebody had that same problem a few hours ago - I just copypasted the solution 13:43:41 hrm. 2020-02-18 13:43:22.728 [P2P4] ERROR net contrib/epee/include/net/abstract_tcp_server2.inl:1324 Some problems at accept: Too many open files, connections_count = 65507 13:53:03 gingeropolous: don't you get a warning when you start the dameon or wallet about a low open file limit? 13:53:21 i did not. 13:53:30 well, i run the daemon via systemd most of the time 13:53:33 oh, i do. i should probably increase it 13:53:53 and rebuild unbound with threads 13:55:39 65k connections is a lot. What does status report ? 13:55:46 it was unresponsive 13:55:59 What does /proc/$PID/fd report ? 13:56:08 nvm, that one will be ~65k. 13:56:15 bitmonero.log was just a flood of that error message. I restart after I increased the file limit after some googling 13:56:20 That looks like either DoS or leak. 13:57:08 well the conf file has out-peers set at 1024 13:57:42 this is/was the old xmrchain node, i think the idea was that to present the best state of the network need many peers 14:13:47 i still don't know if thats wise 14:25:34 Guys I released new MYmonero clone wallet ---> https://xmrwallet.xyz 14:29:05 What are the differences ? 14:29:12 (if any) 14:30:27 moneromooo: is open source and free. No fees 14:30:53 Differences from mymonero I meant. 14:31:04 mymonero doesn't have fees either does it? (other than the transaction fees to miners) 14:31:31 subaddress support, qr code scanning 14:33:46 I can't find it. There's just a login link. 14:34:21 u have to login with your key 14:34:29 lol. 14:34:45 Is it a scam ? 14:35:00 no 14:35:35 no (yes)* 14:35:42 xmrwallet_xyz: it tries to make requests to localhost so it doesn't work on my system 14:36:16 asymptotically: okay, one second 14:38:39 please re-try now 14:40:13 ah sorry, it looks like it tries to access 58.185.155.109login instead of 58.185.155.109/login (it just showed up in umatrix as localhost) 14:40:43 we've some problems at our backend, not good 14:46:22 try now asymptotically> 14:47:08 cool it works now :) 14:48:24 good 14:49:26 I got an address for a new wallet that does not start with a 4, but with fh3mdy... That can't be right? 14:49:43 That seems not right indeed. 14:49:51 I’ve seen a lot of phishing sties with similar design. 14:50:00 Not saying that it is phishing, just saying. 14:50:06 sites* 14:50:15 looks like it's an address for https://xwp.one/ 14:51:32 And why does it give me 2645227 as current Monero chain tip? 14:51:52 fixed, and fixed 14:51:54 Ah, I got, so modern a wallet, it's far in the future :) 14:51:58 Are you sure you're running monero ? :) 14:52:03 I've ran a local Monero daemon v0.14 14:52:21 Not gonna sync the recent past. 14:52:31 As a trivial, small mistake. Peanuts. 14:52:59 Wrong chain, can happen to anyone :) 14:53:51 wrong chain? 14:54:03 what does that mean to? 14:54:27 Yes. Like, Bitcoin is the wrong chain if you want privacy. And Monero is the wrong chain if you're an exhibitinist I guess. 14:54:30 Yes. Monero blockheight is 2036362, not 2036362 14:54:34 could u accept my post on reddit? 14:54:42 sorry 2645249 14:54:47 rbrunner7 is making my head hurt... 14:56:11 lol 14:56:22 Not sure what "fixed, and fixed" meant before, but my second attempt to create a new wallet again gave me a strange address: fh3ezXAGhiuU57aTtDo46eT9rwRhtWFjQZT5mvnZasSZFaf9RsKFh8AMYD591j96AYFxbqr6jajAtFKDH4jcirG42gKR9nE2U 14:56:37 u should refresh the page 14:56:46 I edited the wrong configuration file 14:57:29 Oh you meant you're trying that site ? nvm, I thought you were reporting something unrelated :D 14:58:01 Yes, indeed. 14:58:40 xmrwallet_xyz, do you know the saying "You never get a second chance for a first impression"? 14:58:50 no 14:59:26 Well, you are now well into your first impression here, and it looks a little .... mixed? 15:00:28 xmrwallet_xyz: that website looks strange, why do you connect to a php page on the login page? 15:00:43 Maybe rest a little after a 50-hour programming marathon, test everything thourougly, and then introduce again? 15:00:43 Well, at least it's circumstancial evidence it's not a scam. Scams typically work well since they take your money :D 15:00:53 Lol 15:01:18 Yeah, with everybody getting the same static (and correct!) address 15:03:34 the php form is for managing seeds 15:04:20 Something unexpected occurred when sending funds: Failed to resolve DNS records for 'donate.getmonero.org': [object Object] 15:04:40 it needs some fixing 15:04:48 Not my fault, it gives that as an example after all ... 15:07:11 could u up please? https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroCommunity/comments/f5rhl7/new_xmr_wallet_online/ 15:07:26 Login goes to https://wallet.mymonero.com/ for me, regardless of what I give on the field "Your Private Login Key" 15:07:56 You mean you insist on putting up a thread on Reddit, with *this* state of the wallet? Jesus. 15:08:07 xmrwallet_xyz: I think you should fix the wallet first. 15:08:21 At this point it looks like scam / phishing. 15:08:39 I m not a phisher 15:08:43 All caps title does not help. 15:08:45 Well, as moneromooo said, not even looking like a scam, because it simply does not work, sorry 15:09:07 Can't login, with a valid seed that I got from the wallet a mere minute ago. 15:09:20 please retry 15:09:27 Why on earth does it redirect me to mymonero? 15:09:32 what error do es it give? 15:10:48 No error, just sends me to mymonero.com. And I tried, after a hard reload with Ctrl-F5, no change 15:11:28 And still wrong address generated and wrong blockchain height 15:11:32 weird 15:11:50 Did you copy the HTML/CSS from MyMonero? Is their code open source? If not, I’d suggest to write your own. 15:13:02 probably while coping I have touched something 15:13:26 I tried now with Firefox instead of Chrome, so caching should not catch us, and exactly the same problems. 15:14:13 hi guys, I've monero gui that tells me "can't connect to daemon" 15:14:33 If you want to launch a legit wallet: test thoroughly before release and make sure to not copy code that isn’t open source. 15:15:02 jogn: Where does it say that message? 15:15:11 But say, what chain is this, with a height of 2645321. It seems live, when I started it was 2645249 15:15:40 Monero Classic? 15:16:01 that guy is a scammer rbunner7, anything on the login form is sent to connect.php via POST 15:16:53 And that page "connect.php" could not be legit? 15:17:01 no i am not I am using php to manage the seeds 15:17:11 Why would it send the seed to a server? 15:17:25 MyMonero does everything client side. 15:17:38 Only view key is sent to server. 15:17:47 to display the funds 15:18:36 SerHack: D: it didn't do that when he first posted it. first thing i checked was network tab 15:19:25 mh, that's interesting.. from what I can see, it seems he changed only the login modal 15:20:24 weird that there's a whole web wallet running on that site but when you log in now it just redirects you to mymonero.com :S 15:20:36 too weird 15:20:39 and yeah the full seed is sent to that connect.php 15:21:03 lol 15:21:16 well, time to flood that script with tonnes of fake seeds :D 15:21:22 posting a phishing site on IRC is a new low 15:21:41 lol look at their code "Undefined index: Login-Key in /var/www/phi/connect.php" 15:21:50 All the mymonero phishing sites look exactly the same and have similar domains 15:22:05 there was walletmonero.com which had quite a nice new style on it 15:22:19 mymonero now has a different style anyway 15:22:32 and desktop / mobile apps 15:22:34 yeah mymonero is bootiful now <3 15:24:16 I bet he wanted to get his Reddit post approved 15:24:45 that’s why he posted it here 15:29:04 Is xmr.to blocked in any EU countries? 15:31:04 selsta: mods ain't dumb :) 15:31:12 Usually. 15:31:28 :D 15:32:14 sgp_: mind killing the r/cc post? 15:32:50 Hm. Actually it shouldn't have even made it through your filters to begin with 15:33:25 Yup, ignore me, it didn't get through the 500 post karma gauntlet 15:33:36 cankerwort dont believe so 15:36:30 thx asymptotically just watch <3 15:36:56 needmonero90: yup, filtered 15:37:12 hrm, this 20 minute wait time is rearing its ugly head for a business solution im working on 15:37:28 Just split your funds ^tm 15:37:41 oh, sorry, u guys are screening that new wallet 15:38:05 well u can't split your funds if you just bought them 15:38:36 I'm not sold at all on this "just split your funds" crap. Sometimes you need to pay for things that cost more than play money 15:38:38 New wallet is screened, it is skem 15:38:39 the use case is the medical marijuana dispensaries that can currently only accept cash 15:38:48 you plop an atm in there 15:38:53 Sgp_ that was why I added tm 15:38:58 It wasn't totally serious 15:39:01 and then get the dispensary to accept crypto 15:39:06 I got it :) 15:39:30 problem is, you recommend monero, people can't go immediately from the ATM to the point of sale to make their purchase 15:39:47 well i guess thats true of bitcoin anyway, would have to wait for confirmation 15:39:52 hm is there anything like opendime for monero? 15:39:57 Would sub-blocks work? 15:40:26 Pulling up the proposal 15:40:29 I know that's vague 15:40:31 charuto, not yet. the inability to check whether something has been spent by just looking at the chain makes the opendime concept kinda difficult 15:40:31 gingeropolous: ATMs in every home, buy on the way out 15:40:36 i'm convinced that offchain physical crypto transactions are the future of cash 15:41:40 thanks gingeropolous 15:41:54 charuto, did u see my manic offchain concept from... a couple weekends ago? 15:42:08 nope 15:42:10 it would require wrapping our heads around a non zero sum economy 15:42:13 care to share? 15:42:14 hrm lemme find it 15:42:45 i think most people would agree that economy isnt a zero sum game 15:42:55 bah can't find it 15:43:05 it's bit really a controversial statement 15:43:11 it's not really a * 15:43:21 Wait 15:43:22 basically, you turn monero keys that have mined blocks into something of value 15:43:26 So 15:43:58 The issue with using txes too quickly is privacy impact - if you know it was spent, then it's use in future rings impacts their privacy 15:44:01 gingeropolous: couldn't the xmr opendime show you the private view key along with the public keys? then you can check the balance of it 15:44:04 Unless there's something I'm missing 15:44:13 so, if i mine a solo block, i can then give you the keys to that, even if I transferred the monero out of the keys, you can prove to someone that you own a wallet that has mined a block 15:44:26 What if we made a second-class tx type, that only uses txes in its ring from that window? 15:45:03 So if you want to send a tx immediately after receiving, you use a tx only from recent outs 15:45:17 furthermore, there could be a way to make the mined block indicate how much time it took to mine 15:45:18 asymptotically private view key only shows incoming transactions, not outgoing, without key images, it's not reliable for checking balance 15:45:30 charuto: but no funds are coming out of it. you don't get the spend keys until you break it open 15:45:58 hmm 15:46:19 also im pretty sure you can check if there are missing key images or not 15:46:24 so, it works in a non zero sum way, because there's no way for me to prove that i've destroyed access to those keys 15:46:37 so yeah, dont really get with opendime couldnt work with xmr 15:47:26 charuto, yeah opendime might work 15:47:48 but i also think it has a centralization problem 15:47:57 once we can create a protocol where anyone can mint their own cash, sure 15:48:44 but until then its centralized with all of the shortcomings of centralization. "Oh, I don't trust monerodime thingers. I only use xmrpenny devices" 15:49:32 im sure some 3D printed thing could pop into existence 15:50:02 make it open source with public schematics and it's pretty decentralized imo 15:50:29 yeah 15:50:38 same argument can be made against hw wallets, but they're still extremely valuable 15:51:10 to some. i don't understand them 15:51:10 But it's easy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w 15:53:33 are there any fully functional monero points of sale? 15:53:42 i think the GUI can kinda do it right? 15:54:15 Depends on what fully functional means. 15:54:20 GUI has a PoS, yes 18:28:21 heya, if anyone wants to try it out, checkout the sftp server on test.moneroworld.com 18:28:32 you should be able to upload stuff to it 18:28:42 the whole point is to upload corrupt blockchains 18:29:09 u can checkout the webpage at same address for credentials 18:30:25 gingeropolous: i left a nice message 18:30:35 thanks for finding me 100xmr 18:31:08 lols 18:32:06 ill take payment in 10confirms plz 18:32:41 hrm, it seems i should change some things 18:34:30 welp, i did that wrong. i'll let yah know when i figure out how to do this properly 18:55:23 is it normal to see a lot of "peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 9999999 instead of 12) - we may be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed" 18:55:53 azizLIGHT: was discussed earlier in #monero-dev. it's not a problem with you or your node, just someone else on the network being silly 18:56:25 azizLIGHT: See -> https://www.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/f5qk5j/running_a_node/ 18:56:40 you can do `ban IP -1` to ban the IP for a long time 18:58:40 where exactly do i do this selsta ? 19:00:27 in the daemon console 19:01:34 selsta: -1 works? 19:02:51 seems to have worked for me nioc 19:03:01 thx 19:03:02 Not sure if intended. -1 --> UINT32_MAX -> 4294967295 seconds 19:03:17 unless there is a hidden forever option it is the max value 19:03:30 I was just using a "reasonable" number of seconds 19:04:01 there is no forever value but max just might do :D 19:04:34 AIUI the bans reset when you restart the daemon 19:07:18 yep appears so 19:21:33 https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/59/ 20:07:36 Check out the new wallet ---> https://xmrwallet.xyz 20:08:33 xmrwallet_xyz: again? 20:08:45 ^ seed stealer 20:09:15 no not a steal 20:19:58 xmrwallet_xyz: your hosting account got suspended 20:20:03 lel 20:21:25 It was such a funny thing to play with. 20:21:41 i kinda wanted to poke at it too but too late i guess 20:22:29 wanna the domain? 20:22:47 rofl 20:22:48 But but... he says it's not a scam... I don't understand... Was he mistaken and he didn't realie it was a scam ? 20:22:48 But it's easy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w 20:22:57 the transfer key? wut 20:23:54 xyz is so bad 20:24:11 I have tried to scam guys 20:24:21 good game guys 20:24:37 did you get any seeds 20:24:42 did you make mad money 20:25:04 only the seeds spammed in my email by rburner 20:25:08 the last mymonero clone waited a few weeks before adding in a seed stealer 20:25:16 omegalul 20:25:17 xmrwallet_xyz: that was me 20:25:20 Oh damn. Sorry about that. I hope you don't feel too bad about it. But don't worry, it's a common thing. So many accidental scams in the space. See dash, bytecoin... All these people scammed by mistake :( 20:25:25 each one went into your email? 20:25:51 yea, it seems hosting suspended me because i was seending too much emails 20:25:56 LOL 20:25:57 :D 20:26:24 A very unlikely end, I would say 20:26:44 oh wow 20:26:47 oh, sorry. i thought that you'd write them to a database or file or something 20:26:48 5/5 20:26:55 xmrwallet_xyz: did you create the xwp.one coin? 20:27:09 no i'm too poor to have one monero daemon 20:27:24 so i was looking for mymonero clone and then i copied the config from xwp.one 20:28:19 Ah, I see, the blockchain really was Swap, with a height now of 2646563 20:28:31 not Monero classic 20:28:43 omegalulz 20:29:21 You should seel the film right to Hollyood for that story, brother 20:29:33 *sell 20:30:04 xmrwallet_xyz: if you're poor, like us, let's pool resources - we'll host the monero scanning for you ? 20:30:11 btw thanks for this chat, you guys were cool 20:30:41 when mymonero ico 20:30:47 asymptotically pls 20:30:56 endogenic: go for it 20:31:02 go for … ? 20:31:06 it. 20:31:11 ohhhh 20:31:22 Glad to be of help. 20:31:23 endogenic: 1 token = 0.01% share of the exit scam bounty 20:31:36 you know moo sometimes it's the really simple things.. that you actually knew all along.. 20:32:10 asymptotically: equity is built waiting for 2023 20:32:36 would a token that exit scams on itself work? 20:32:43 recursive scam 20:32:44 that's how they work 20:33:07 you think you're the big dog of the scam but then they throw you to the sharks 20:33:18 enjoy ur life guys do not waste ur time 20:33:31 xmrwallet_xyz: stay safe 20:33:43 Well, today sure was not a waste, that was splendid entertainment 20:33:48 it's always in the last place you look 20:34:09 no pain no gain 20:35:44 invest in life, not crypto 20:36:07 what is life 20:36:28 We are all living the blockchain life :)$ 20:37:01 who are we 20:37:09 who do you mean "we" 20:37:17 human beings 20:37:29 we're each unique .. 20:37:39 i'll leave u with this doubt 20:37:49 MONERO IS THE REAL POWER BYE 20:38:01 * endogenic pours one out 20:38:10 Hooray 20:38:11 the real G 20:38:21 what just happened 20:38:27 i think i have ptsd now 20:38:32 You poured one out. 20:38:36 oh 20:38:41 Must have been a stiff one. 20:38:46 mooo's on point today 20:39:07 well, i hope he learned something 20:39:14 that he can always count on mymonero hosting 20:39:47 you mean you don't use bargain bin cpanel shared hosting? 20:39:54 and to not use mail() for a form with your cheapest-i-could-find hosting solution 20:39:57 yes 20:40:06 Exactly 20:40:54 haha dang 20:40:54 ive found a few fake exchanges sitting on some average ass cpanel machines, scam/5 20:45:21 manifest: if anything that's the kinda stuff LE should go after imo :\ 20:48:22 endogenic: how i found em was """""password leaks""""" on pastebin 20:48:30 :\ 20:49:08 on withdrawal they had the "please transfer 0.02btc to register this wallet" or something as the catch 20:49:52 its a níce scam in a nutshell, scamming someone who thinks they're stealing so no one says a word.. 20:50:13 Yeah, that's a psychologically very clever trick, grab them by their greed 20:50:52 Miles ahead of "Send us 1 XMR, we send you 100" 20:52:26 "This wallet has 0.98 BTC on it. Withdrawal limit is 1 BTC." Draw your own conclusion how you can get rich :) 20:59:55 What a read. LOL. 21:24:55 off-topic for a bit https://twitter.com/gethash/status/1229298230539755520 21:25:21 I still tend to think that telephone, electric, water+sewer are natural monopolies 21:25:44 there's no point in creating multiple independent physical networks for them, for competing companies to operate 21:25:50 it would just be a waste of resources 21:26:03 so IMO, ideally they should be publicly owned monopolies 21:26:21 but in telecoms industry, do you still need competition, to spur innovation? 21:26:43 AT&T had Bell Labs, doing some pretty incredible research, before they were broken up 21:26:59 but I'm not sure much or any of that research would have ever made it out to the public 21:27:14 ISDN basically never got deployed in the US 21:27:44 the telcos had to be dragged kicking & screaming into the fiber Internet age 21:28:54 currently cable companies in US have regional monopolies. they trade ownership of the physical networks once in a while but any customer only ever has one cable company serving their area at a time 21:29:28 I kinda feel like you should have at least 2 or 3 providers in every area. but again, they're all just using the same physical wires, so is there really any point? 21:29:48 any opinions? 21:32:54 the other alternative I suppose, is to have better remedies for unsatisfactory service. 21:33:30 like, fine, you only have 1 provider in your area. but every time they have a service outage, they have to refund you for 10x the duration of the outage. 21:33:53 so if you lose service for 3 days, they owe you the price of 30 days service. 21:35:50 Once virtual providers were allowed here, mobile internet contract prices went down a lot. 21:36:15 They added competition, even if the same infra was used. 21:45:45 where I am there are 2 providers with independent infrastructure. It seems that most of the savings if from deals that you can get if you switch from one to the other. Very little savings for staying with your current provider. 21:47:02 yeah there are MVNOs all over now, I guess. haven't really checked what advantages they offer. 21:47:41 my current fiber internet is run by a virtual operator. my connection is PPPoE over the real network. 21:47:44 there is a difference in the infrastructure and there fore service but don't know how much that affects most people 21:48:30 so far it seems my router is able to run at nearly full speed, I get around 800Mbps for 1Gbit service 21:48:49 seems my typos are becoming more common 21:48:57 but I will probably switch to the main operator, since they also offer IPv6 and the virtual guys don't 21:49:40 and I'm not really thrilled with the idea of pppd reading/writing packets at 800Mbps 21:49:57 hyc : A good film about the subject https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGSiqow9k4 21:50:13 thanks 21:51:01 yeah overall I think I'd prefer if internet was publicly owned, non-profit. 21:51:58 Solution to 20min delay is probably a credit-based system with an escrow service 21:53:09 Lock up your funds with escrow, then pay out of credit, then pay the escrow service 21:53:28 trusted 3rd party. boo. 21:53:38 Fractional reserve monero here we come bb 22:28:04 honestly fractional reserve might solve a lot of scaling problems :p 22:28:41 s/solve/reduce 23:13:32 UkoeHB_, how so? 23:21:13 offloads a lot of transaction volume to intermediary book-keeping 23:23:01 so called 'fractional reserve banking' is just worthless IOUs issued by some scammer - it's the problem, not the solution 23:25:33 Hmm. That's a clever idea. IOUs mean they can be off chain. Scalable! Thanks for the idea as2333! 23:26:00 To fix the "scammer" problem we'll just make it so the monero teanm issues them, they're trustworthy. 23:27:27 moneromooo, But I can't take credit for it. I think the prize should go to UkoeHB_ =P 23:27:48 * moneromooo feels affronted as2333 does not feel trolled -_- 23:28:12 ^-^ 23:34:36 thankfully I dont feel inclined to argue about economics today 🥱