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Inge-
"Our payments are run through BTCPay, however when an invoice is generated it creates a new address for every coin we accept. Unfortunately sometimes if someone doesn't pay in a long time with a certain currency we pass the gap limit. Most coins have solutions through electrum, but Monero being a bit of a different beast needed something else. Glad its working though. :)"
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newyearday
hello
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newyearday
how to start new blockchain when ringsize even for ver1 is at least 3
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newyearday
i have allways "No outputs found, or daemon is not ready"
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newyearday
on transfer this message
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newyearday
what 10-50 first blocks of monero has?
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newyearday
transfers,mining what?
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charolastra
newyearday: you can start your own testnet. in the beginning the miners just validate themselfes, there are not actual transations
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newyearday
what is the difference with mining real blockchain and not testnet
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charolastra
no difference at all, afaik
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charolastra
testnet function is already integrated. for the real blockchain you would have to change the code so it doesn't interfere with the already esteblished blockchain
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newyearday
what to change unlock window ?
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newyearday
mining is working but transfer dont work because there no outputs
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newyearday
i cant understand how the first transfer of monero worked
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newyearday
because even on version 1 ringsize is at least 3
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charolastra
maby there is a bootstrap mechanism in place that reduces ringzise at first
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newyearday
only moneromooo can answer this
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newyearday
what first block of monero has?mining?
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newyearday
where transfers begin
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charolastra
i don't understand the question
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newyearday
blocks can be created from mining or from transfers
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newyearday
right?
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charolastra
only mining creates blocks, even empty ones if there are not transfers
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newyearday
ok right just how transfers begin
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charolastra
no idea. in the testnet it does complain about the ringsize but then does the actual transfer anyway
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moneromooo
I told you yesterday: you need to wait till enough coinbase outputs are unlocked to use in your first ring.
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asymptotically
but i dont want to wait :( i want to be rich now!!!
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hyc
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newyearday
"trusted a single company "
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newyearday
is enough
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Adriel
does anyone know how to tell monerod to put the blockchain on a drive that isnt my ssd that is almost full?
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Adriel
or where the config file is located so I can specify a custom one?
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asymptotically
how do you launch the daemon Adriel? you can use the --data-dir argument to put it somewhere else
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asymptotically
for example monerod --data-dir /mnt/myharddrive/monerod
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Adriel
thank you
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Adriel
that will at least let me get it synced
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Adriel
maybe it hasnt made the config file yet
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Adriel
but it did download 2% of the blockchain somewhere...
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asymptotically
i don't think it creates a config by default, but you can make one and then use --config-file /etc/monerod.conf
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hyc
it doesn't create a config file
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Adriel
that worked btw
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Adriel
I may just write a batch file to launch it
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Adriel
:)
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Adriel
my linux box was way easier
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Adriel
I just made my .bitmonero dir somewhere else and ln -s to my home dir :)
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hyc
yeah that's what I usually do, just symlink to where I want it
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Adriel
its just that my gaming pc is the best option for leaving the mining running and it is on windows :)
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Adriel
I don't want to slow down my workstation all the time :)
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moneromooo
FWIW, syncing on a SSD is *much* faster than on a HDD. You may want to consider moving some stuff from SSD to HDD to make space, then sync on SSD, then swap back.
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asymptotically
you could leave the daemon and wallet on your workstation, and then install a pool miner on your gaming computer too
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Adriel
yea I plan to use the wallet in linux
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Adriel
The website says I can use a public pool rather than syncing, and it says I can bootstrap the pool?
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Adriel
but it gives no indication how
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Adriel
wow 55GB?
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Adriel
yea there is no way I can clear that much space on my 120G ssd heh
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Inge-
hyc: that article certainly does not make it less probable that the NSA has attempted to compromise cryptography in the more recent past.
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moneromooo
It's either ~85 GB (full) or ~25 GB (pruned).
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Adriel
well it is 55GB to download from the website and import
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Adriel
must be compressed
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Adriel
:)
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Adriel
I should probably sync it once and copy the db to the other workstations via gigabit :)
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Adriel
how do I tell it to use the public copy rather than download it?
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moneromooo
Do you mean "how do I tell my wallet to use a possibly malicious stranger's node rather than my one that I checked" ?
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Adriel
heh
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Adriel
well can I download it pruned?
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Adriel
if its a stupid idea btw it perhaps shouldnt be listed as a feature?
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Adriel
on the website
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Adriel
:P
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moneromooo
If you start monerod with --prune-blockchain, it'll download it all, but save it pruned as it goes.
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Adriel
is unpruned faster if I have the diskspace?
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moneromooo
Lots of people don't care about being scammed. They figure it only happens to others.
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moneromooo
It won't be faster, just save space.
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Adriel
oh well
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Adriel
I guess I will just wait another hr or 2
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Adriel
heh
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Adriel
I just wanted to get my wallet created before syncing the blockchain
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moneromooo
Your "listed as a feature" comment makes me think yu might be talking about the bootstrap file rather than using a stranger's nde ?
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moneromooo
Oh you can do that without getting the chain first.
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Adriel
yes that
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Adriel
well I have an unscynced wallet
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Adriel
but that is unusable till it is synced right?
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moneromooo
Less usable. But not unusable.
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Adriel
no
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Adriel
not downloading the file
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Adriel
the thing that claims I can use the wallet immediately
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Adriel
I have no idea how to do that
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moneromooo
There is bootstrap mode, which is better than just using a stranger's node. You're only vulnerable till synced.
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Adriel
so its a command switch?
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moneromooo
--help will show the option, probably --boostrap or similar.
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Adriel
on monerod or cli?
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moneromooo
monerod.
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moneromooo
Basically monerod proxies to another node (so you're vulnerable there) but syncs in the background. After done syncing, it switches back to its own (not vulnerable anymore).
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Adriel
--bootstrap-daemon-address auto
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Adriel
?
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moneromooo
Yes.
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yanmaani
How bad is it to use a stranger's node anyway? I asked about this before and the response I got was that it's safe but has implementation issues making it unsafe
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Adriel
It depends on the stranger
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Adriel
I think that worked, the wallet seems to be active now :)
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Adriel
any mining pool recommendations? :)
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Adriel
for xmrig
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yanmaani
If you use sufficient strangers, I mean
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yanmaani
As in, an Electrum-style SPV node that scans for payments
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moneromooo
You can use just one stranger with monero. Using more is theoretically possible, but I don't feel like spending time on these things when you could just use your own node.
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yanmaani
Not everyone has 60 gb of space though
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moneromooo
The stranger can DoS you obviously. They can also send you fake blocks which appear to send you money (if they know one of your addresses).
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yanmaani
or 25, if you're pruning
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yanmaani
yeah but if we have multiple strangers
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moneromooo
< moneromooo> You can use just one stranger with monero.
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yanmaani
If you have a list of a few hundred
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Adriel
But I could at least use one of my established nodes right?
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yanmaani
uhh how am I to parse that
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yanmaani
"You can use at most one stranger"
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yanmaani
or
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yanmaani
"It is sufficient to use one stranger"
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moneromooo
"You can use at most one stranger"
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yanmaani
how come?
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nioc
Adriel: here is a list of mining pools
miningpoolstats.stream/monero
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yanmaani
My mental model is that it asks the stranger for all the blocks since the last download
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moneromooo
I don't feel like spending time on these things when you could just use your own node.
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Adriel
it seems silly to have the whole blockchain on more than one pc on my network
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yanmaani
(with some filtering?)
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yanmaani
and then looks for transactions inside
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yanmaani
why can't you ask two nodes for the blocks and see if they agree for example?
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moneromooo
If it's your own node, you can certanly point all your wallets at it.
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yanmaani
everyone can't use their own node
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moneromooo
Because... wait for it... I don't feel like spending time on these things when you could just use your own node.
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yanmaani
TAILS is the most obvious use-case, but mobile as well
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yanmaani
yeah implementing obviously
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nioc
Adriel: don't use dwarfpool as they are closing
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yanmaani
but is your antipathy so strong you don't even want to talk about it?
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moneromooo
And the dwarfpool op is a scammer.
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nioc
that's waht I usually tell people but now I have an easier excuse
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Adriel
I am trying minexmr but I am not sure how to tell it where to send the coins
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Adriel
the config file on xmrig does not have an option
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nioc
Adriel: put in your address, there is a wizard on the xmrig website that will make setting the config easier
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Adriel
found it
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nioc
your address goes in "user"
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Adriel
for some reason I thought the user field wanted a hostname
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Adriel
heh
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Adriel
ty :)
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nioc
yw
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Adriel
I think I have it mining to the pool :)
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Adriel
we shall see in an hr or so :)
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Adriel
is there a way to make it stop locking the cli every 10 seconds for my "safety"?
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moneromooo
Yes, set the timeout to more than 10 seconds in "set".
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moneromooo
It defaults to 90 though, so you probably already set it ?
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moneromooo
(0 disables altogether)
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Adriel
is that a command line switch?
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moneromooo
No. "set" in the monero-wallet-cli console.
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Adriel
ty, trying it now :)
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moneromooo
yanmaani: I'm unsure whether you started going weird or not in that last line, or whether I misinterpreted your earlier questions. So let me restate clearly:
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Adriel
472iCFtRQrv4zAVzZT1mYo2aaXaqEm4RtZGMgVEneuz9ShxqFiBcyozdRpwweY1KNPWhuX7S2qkzLJbpBU8G1hNdDBsthNA
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Adriel
oops
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moneromooo
The Monero does not support connecting to more than one daemon at a time to compare results. It is theoretically possible.
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Adriel
that was a mistake
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moneromooo
The monero wallet.
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Adriel
but feel free to send coins there heh
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moneromooo
If that wasn't what you had asked, please rephrase.
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Adriel
the set command did not work
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Adriel
looking in help
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Adriel
Error: set: unrecognized argument(s)
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Adriel
that is what I meant to paste
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moneromooo
Check for typos in the argument(s).
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Adriel
[wallet 472iCF]: set autorefresh 1
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Adriel
does that have any typos?
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Adriel
I cant see any
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Adriel
I have not yet found out if the timeout command exists, still trying to read the help
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moneromooo
I'd say it's 80% likely to be auto-refresh.
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moneromooo
"set" lists all the variables.
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moneromooo
It also defaults to 1 already.
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Adriel
hmm
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Adriel
it doesnt work with anything for some reason
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Adriel
no matter what I type it always says set unrecognized arguments
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Adriel
there does not seem to be a timeout, but if I set askpasswd 0 perhaps that would fix me
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moneromooo
It's 99% likely to be ask-password.
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Adriel
I should copy all this to a text file so I can actually reference it :)
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Adriel
I found it, it is "inactivity-lock-timeout = 90
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Adriel
"
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Adriel
:)
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Adriel
typing the set command without the word help was more helpful heh
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Adriel
easier to read
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Adriel
I'll prob use xmrig anyway so I don't need to share the db
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Adriel
ty again, sorry if I am asking too many questions :)
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yanmaani
moneromooo: That's what I mean, yes. If it were implemented, how safe/unsafe would it be?
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moneromooo
About the same as Bitcoin I think. Which is to say I don't really know :)
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moneromooo
Probably safe enough.
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Adriel
ty again, I have it mining :) Pending Balance: 0.000039165124 XMR
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Adriel
heh
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nioc
\o/
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xmrmatterbridge
<ndhmfndhmf> Hi! I was trying to download the monero-gui wallet, but I'm confused as to what's going on with the releases?
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xmrmatterbridge
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selsta
CLI is at v0.15.0.1
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selsta
GUI at v0.15.0.2
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xmrmatterbridge
<ndhmfndhmf> ah, my mistake. thank you