freenode #monero

21 Jan 2020

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• 05:00
  KiloLima
  the bitcoin channels seem dead as a door nail.
• 05:02
  as2333
  what about window nails?
• 05:02
  KiloLima
  it's you!
• 05:03
  KiloLima
  you know what they say?
• 12:38
  orbs
  hii
• 12:42
  orbs
  hi didrole
• 12:43
  moneromooo
  Hi. If you have a question, feel free to ask and wait for someone who can help to see it.
• 12:43
  orbs
  thanks
• 12:43
  orbs
  but
• 12:43
  orbs
  i don't have any questions
• 12:44
  orbs
  thanks anyways
• 12:46
  orbs
  anyone here?
• 12:46
  moneromooo
  Most people idle, usually afk.
• 12:47
  orbs
  damn
• 12:47
  orbs
  i started IRC a year ago
• 12:47
  orbs
  and
• 12:47
  orbs
  i wanted to find a really good community
• 12:47
  orbs
  too bad
• 12:47
  orbs
  guess the search continues
• 12:47
  moneromooo
  If what you want is banter, try #monero-markets
• 12:48
  moneromooo
  It's where the bullshit goes ^_^
• 12:48
  orbs
  wow
• 12:48
  orbs
  thanks!
• 12:48
  orbs
  also
• 12:48
  orbs
  my email is
• 12:48
  orbs
  ralfbenedictflores⊙gc
• 12:49
  orbs
  message me i you want to?
• 12:49
  orbs
  oopd
• 12:49
  orbs
  double oops
• 12:50
  moneromooo
  Busy atm but should I ever want to I'll do.
• 12:50
  orbs
  ok
• 12:50
  orbs
  pls remeber my email
• 12:50
  orbs
  also
• 12:50
  orbs
  i hhave a lot of free time
• 12:50
  orbs
  so
• 12:50
  orbs
  um
• 12:50
  orbs
  what's ur email?
• 12:51
  moneromooo
  Sorry gotta split, later
• 12:51
  orbs
  oh
• 12:51
  orbs
  ok
• 12:51
  orbs
  hello darkness my old friend
• 14:51
  gingeropolous
  ugh.... find ways to get resources to do the research or actually do the research
• 14:52
  gingeropolous
  i feel like hacking today, so back to the research. fuck this bureaucratic nightmare
• 14:53
  gingeropolous
  of course, part of today is "find documentation on the software beyond the --help!"
• 15:35
  scoobybejesus
  how did my node connect to the address 193.83.49.0 ? did that node (of another coin w/ monero version 60) spoof its address or something?
• 18:56
  anicow
  monero is love <3
• 19:02
  marmulak
  monero is life
• 19:02
  marmulak
  I love moner
• 19:06
  binaryFate
  <3
• 20:30
  kxsl
  what does monero wallet synchronize with a remote node? i thought the whole point of the remote node was that doesn't need to be done
• 20:31
  KiloLima
  kxsl wallet sync is different to node sync.
• 20:31
  KiloLima
  wallet sync is uploading the wallet with block data
• 20:32
  KiloLima
  node sync is downloading all blocks, if you have node sync, you still have to do wallet sync
• 20:32
  moneromooo
  The whole point of a remote node is to run *your* node on a more powerful/online machine.
• 20:33
  moneromooo
  The whole point of using a stranger's node rather than your own is to reduce your security and privacy.
• 20:34
  moneromooo
  Nevertheless, Monero is a private currency, so the node doesn't have your keys and doesn't know which txes are for your wallet, so hte wallet gets the txes and checks.
• 20:34
  moneromooo
  That's like about 5% to 10% of the total chain size I think. Very roughly.
• 20:35
  moneromooo
  But by doing that you are surrendering your freedom to that stranger, if it's not your own node running remote.
• 20:36
  moneromooo
  Software exists (mymonero) that does that computation server side, if you share your secret view key with it.
• 20:36
  kxsl
  yeah, it says it's synchronizing wallet blocks. that's what the 1gb data.mdb file is for?
• 20:36
  moneromooo
  As the "secret" part implies, it should be your node, unless you want to accept what the node tells you without checking.
• 20:36
  moneromooo
  data.mdb is the blockchain. If you have one, you're running your own node.
• 20:37
  moneromooo
  1 GB means it's just a start one though. Barely synced yet.
• 20:37
  moneromooo
  There's also a "bootstrap" mode where you use a stranger's node while you sync. Could be you're using that.
• 20:38
  moneromooo
  When the chain has finished syncing, it'll switch to your own node.
• 20:38
  kxsl
  i dont want to sync the whole thing or run a node on this computer. it says it's waiting for the daemon synchronization to finish
• 20:38
  moneromooo
  Are you using the GUI ?
• 20:38
  kxsl
  yes
• 20:39
  moneromooo
  It should have asked you what you wanted to do when you started it.
• 20:39
  moneromooo
  What did you choose ?
• 20:40
  moneromooo
  I think it boils down to "run my own", "surrender without a fight" and "bootstrap".
• 20:40
  kxsl
  i dont remember. i updated from 0.14. that was working fine and I had a local wallet. when I started using 0.15, it said the daemon wasn't running, so i clicked start. here i am
• 20:41
  moneromooo
  Ah, that will most likely run a local node. Explaining the 1 GB data.mdb.
• 20:42
  moneromooo
  So if you really don't want that, kill the process. Thre might be a stop button in the GUI, not sure.
• 20:42
  kxsl
  i don't need to run the background daemon at all?
• 20:43
  moneromooo
  If you surrender to a stranger's node's claim about the network, no. If you want full security, yes. If you want the sweet spot bootstrap mode, yes, and it'll use the stranger's node until your node is up to date.
• 20:44
  moneromooo
  So in your case, I think you don't need it.
• 20:44
  moneromooo
  If you can't run a node on that machine but have a VPS, it's best to run a node on the vps and use that. At least you can be sure the stranger's isn't lying to you.
• 20:46
  kxsl
  correct, something like that. i'll have my own node on another server. i need the wallet on my laptop so i can take it with me.
• 20:49
  » anicow takes off the dirty mask with holes in it
• 20:50
  btgjoseph
  i loved you guys all along <3
• 20:50
  moneromooo
  Make sure you use ssl then.
• 20:51
  btgjoseph
  <3
• 20:53
  btgjoseph
  15:53:22 up 856 days, 21:57, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.07, 0.06
• 20:53
  btgjoseph
  /exec -o uptime
• 20:53
  btgjoseph
  there will be morethan one winner, just so long as they lose
• 20:53
  btgjoseph
  LETSGO
• 20:56
  btgjoseph
  fluffypony, hyc <3
• 20:57
  btgjoseph
  not a scam :(