05:00:36 <KiloLima> the bitcoin channels seem dead as a door nail.
05:02:19 <as2333> what about window nails?
05:02:59 <KiloLima> it's you!
05:03:25 <KiloLima> you know what they say?
12:38:57 <orbs> hii
12:42:38 <orbs> hi didrole
12:43:11 <moneromooo> Hi. If you have a question, feel free to ask and wait for someone who can help to see it.
12:43:22 <orbs> thanks
12:43:38 <orbs> but
12:43:46 <orbs> i don't have any questions
12:44:00 <orbs> thanks anyways
12:46:06 <orbs> anyone here?
12:46:32 <moneromooo> Most people idle, usually afk.
12:47:11 <orbs> damn
12:47:28 <orbs> i started IRC a year ago
12:47:30 <orbs> and
12:47:42 <orbs> i wanted to find a really good community
12:47:46 <orbs> too bad
12:47:58 <orbs> guess the search continues
12:47:59 <moneromooo> If what you want is banter, try #monero-markets
12:48:14 <moneromooo> It's where the bullshit goes ^_^
12:48:24 <orbs> wow
12:48:28 <orbs> thanks!
12:48:33 <orbs> also
12:48:36 <orbs> my email is
12:48:49 <orbs> ralfbenedictflores⊙gc
12:49:08 <orbs> message me i you want to?
12:49:12 <orbs> oopd
12:49:21 <orbs> double oops
12:50:01 <moneromooo> Busy atm but should I ever want to I'll do.
12:50:08 <orbs> ok
12:50:14 <orbs> pls remeber my email
12:50:18 <orbs> also
12:50:24 <orbs> i hhave a lot of free time
12:50:25 <orbs> so
12:50:28 <orbs> um
12:50:38 <orbs> what's ur email?
12:51:02 <moneromooo> Sorry gotta split, later
12:51:14 <orbs> oh
12:51:16 <orbs> ok
12:51:27 <orbs> hello darkness my old friend
14:51:49 <gingeropolous> ugh.... find ways to get resources to do the research or actually do the research
14:52:39 <gingeropolous> i feel like hacking today, so back to the research. fuck this bureaucratic nightmare
14:53:43 <gingeropolous> of course, part of today is "find documentation on the software beyond the --help!"
15:35:13 <scoobybejesus> how did my node connect to the address 193.83.49.0 ?  did that node (of another coin w/ monero version 60) spoof its address or something?
18:56:48 <anicow> monero is love <3
19:02:50 <marmulak> monero is life
19:02:51 <marmulak> I love moner
19:06:23 <binaryFate> <3
20:30:46 <kxsl> what does monero wallet synchronize with a remote node? i thought the whole point of the remote node was that doesn't need to be done
20:31:28 <KiloLima> kxsl wallet sync is different to node sync.
20:31:45 <KiloLima> wallet sync is uploading the wallet with block data
20:32:07 <KiloLima> node sync is downloading all blocks, if you have node sync, you still have to do wallet sync
20:32:53 <moneromooo> The whole point of a remote node is to run *your* node on a more powerful/online machine.
20:33:12 <moneromooo> The whole point of using a stranger's node rather than your own is to reduce your security and privacy.
20:34:00 <moneromooo> Nevertheless, Monero is a private currency, so the node doesn't have your keys and doesn't know which txes are for your wallet, so hte wallet gets the txes and checks.
20:34:21 <moneromooo> That's like about 5% to 10% of the total chain size I think. Very roughly.
20:35:07 <moneromooo> But by doing that you are surrendering your freedom to that stranger, if it's not your own node running remote.
20:36:09 <moneromooo> Software exists (mymonero) that does that computation server side, if you share your secret view key with it.
20:36:34 <kxsl> yeah, it says it's synchronizing wallet blocks. that's what the 1gb data.mdb file is for?
20:36:36 <moneromooo> As the "secret" part implies, it should be your node, unless you want to accept what the node tells you without checking.
20:36:55 <moneromooo> data.mdb is the blockchain. If you have one, you're running your own node.
20:37:11 <moneromooo> 1 GB means it's just a start one though. Barely synced yet.
20:37:53 <moneromooo> There's also a "bootstrap" mode where you use a stranger's node while you sync. Could be you're using that.
20:38:13 <moneromooo> When the chain has finished syncing, it'll switch to your own node.
20:38:32 <kxsl> i dont want to sync the whole thing or run a node on this computer. it says it's waiting for the daemon synchronization to finish
20:38:54 <moneromooo> Are you using the GUI ?
20:38:58 <kxsl> yes
20:39:17 <moneromooo> It should have asked you what you wanted to do when you started it.
20:39:27 <moneromooo> What did you choose ?
20:40:19 <moneromooo> I think it boils down to "run my own", "surrender without a fight" and "bootstrap".
20:40:39 <kxsl> i dont remember. i updated from 0.14. that was working fine and I had a local wallet. when I started using 0.15, it said the daemon wasn't running, so i clicked start. here i am
20:41:00 <moneromooo> Ah, that will most likely run a local node. Explaining the 1 GB data.mdb.
20:42:01 <moneromooo> So if you really don't want that, kill the process. Thre might be a stop button in the GUI, not sure.
20:42:49 <kxsl> i don't need to run the background daemon at all?
20:43:46 <moneromooo> If you surrender to a stranger's node's claim about the network, no. If you want full security, yes. If you want the sweet spot bootstrap mode, yes, and it'll use the stranger's node until your node is up to date.
20:44:01 <moneromooo> So in your case, I think you don't need it.
20:44:39 <moneromooo> If you can't run a node on that machine but have a VPS, it's best to run a node on the vps and use that. At least you can be sure the stranger's isn't lying to you.
20:46:53 <kxsl> correct, something like that. i'll have my own node on another server. i need the wallet on my laptop so i can take it with me.
20:49:31 * anicow takes off the dirty mask with holes in it
20:50:00 <btgjoseph> i loved you guys all along <3
20:50:57 <moneromooo> Make sure you use ssl then.
20:51:21 <btgjoseph> <3
20:53:22 <btgjoseph>  15:53:22 up 856 days, 21:57,  1 user,  load average: 0.11, 0.07, 0.06
20:53:24 <btgjoseph>  /exec -o uptime
20:53:50 <btgjoseph> there will be morethan one winner, just so long as they lose
20:53:56 <btgjoseph> LETSGO
20:56:29 <btgjoseph> fluffypony, hyc <3
20:57:49 <btgjoseph> not a scam :(