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he was muted. Does it work now? jtgrassie

np. Don't know why you were muted

i still don't see jtgrassie's posts

Can you see mine?

yep

weird

i think its a voice thing

jtgrassie: is your matrix user connected to a irc user?

i forget how the protector bot works

it's probably the voice bot on freenode's side

ErCiccione: yes, xiphon has been offline for a couple days so we weren't able to get the bot running again

Any protocol relying on presigning suffers from this anyway (by design). At the moment though it is not even a question of whether we are ok with this tradeoff. Unless we are missing something big, you can't actually implement any protocol that relies on presigning which is f.e. everything Layer2 as those protocols are all collaborative and to be secure you usually sign all tx representing "backup paths" like

channel closure ahead of time.