well decentralization is never the easiest or most practical solution to a problem

51% unknown?

total miners: 49438

gingeropolous: minexmr website has issues

ah, it dang ol dropped off the thing didnt it

thanks selsta

got my M1 Macbook pro.

/randomx-benchmark --mine --init 8 --jit --secure --nonces 100000 --threads 8

Memory initialized in 4.8494 s

Performance: 2320.18 hashes per second

any #s for power draw?

hmmm.

I have a power meter around here somewhere, haven't used it in ages

dunno if I canfind it

<\x> hyc put it on the database

<\x> xmrig.com/benchmark

<\x> if youre willing do a single thread run, im interested in that too, itll take time though

470.573H/s 1000 nonces 1 thread

no, in xmrig

./xmrig --bench=1M -t 1 --submit

ah

haven't compiled that yet

911.174H 2 threads 2000 nonces

1254.48 3 threads 3000 nonces

<\x> ehemm sech1

1713.2 4 threads 4000 nonces

<\x> ./xmrig --bench=1M -t 1 --submit --user=hyc

<\x> for the maximum basedness

1972.44 5 threads 5000 nonces

so there are only 4 high-perf cores, so perf tails off here

<\x> neway hyc im gonna wait for the results on xmrig's db

2140.84 6 threads 6000 nonces

2234.52 7 threads 7000 nonces

2335.6 8 threads 8000 nonces

I'll get xmrig now

Interesting that hashrate increases from 6 to 8 threads

Apple M1 has 4 fast cores with 12 MB cache + 4 efficient cores with 4 MB cache

so 6 threads should be optimal

<\x> 4 threads on monero, 4 threads on wownero

<\x> whatchu think sech1?

maybe

but if you look at threads here: xmrig.com/benchmark/58FCwe

all threads have the same hashrate, weird

xmrig --bench wants a config.json

<\x> ./xmrig --bench=1M -t 1 --submit --user=hyc

<\x> try this

<\x> ./xmrig --bench=1M --submit --user=hyc

<\x> --user is optional

<\x> but itll be nice to see on the leaderboards eh

got it going

487.2H/s so far

5.9%

<\x> yeah it needs to hash 1 million :p

<\x> verification on xmrig's side also takes time

<\x> he verifies 1 thread with like 800 h/s cpu

basically ~same as randomx-benchmark

<\x> 1t bench isnt the same as nT bench on xmrig

<\x> sech1 did special sauce on it to prevent cheating on 1t since 1t xmrig benchmarking is like kinda competetive

eh, --submit doesn't work

<\x> extreme memory setups, some cpus even had to do it on cold, the 5800X there is on cold, -60C

benchmark failed: "Unknown CPU."

<\x> sech1 ^^

this needs an update then: xmrig/xmrig 8faef28

what does that mean, Apple M1 on Linux? this is running MacOSX

hmm. I built without hwloc before. just added hwloc, that seems to make it happier

always build with hwloc for benchmark

still 487H/s for 1T

<\x> damn sech1

<\x> xmrig benchmarks is uhh

<\x> i mean a lot uses it now

<\x> i thought itll just be a meme feature lmao

benchmark_XX.cmd in xmrig folder probably helps

<\x> it also got added on ddr4 oc guide

lol that's excellent

and makes perfect sense

<\x> github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md

<\x> ctrl f xmrig

I won't be satisfied until Anandtech adds it to their CPU benchmark suite

<\x> he benched it last time but he did it wrong

have people sugested that to them already?

how can he do it wrong

<\x> he didnt run as admin

<\x> cpus untuned too

meh. I'm not running as admin right now

doh

<\x> on x86 running as admin matters a lot

<\x> need wrmsr

must be a windows thing

<\x> nah

<\x> wrmsr

<\x> need to change a few msrs

<\x> i think we he ran it at first hugepages didnt kick in too

no hugepages on maxos

but IIRC M1 uses 64KB pages

<\x> youtube.com/watch?v=YJWnpn7p1hc

will find out when I start testing LMDB

<\x> ah yeah about that sech1

<\x> i think hwbot is willing to add xmrig on it now

<\x> i talked to them last time with my alt there

<\x> benchmate also willing to add it once in hwbot

hm. hashrate just took a dive. 269.8

<\x> warning, image dumps

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<\x> neway, sech1 hwbot forum or email them

<\x> im not doing it man, you two (xmrig, sech1) are the devs for it, i think you two have to "plzbro" them

who are you, not an xmrig project guy?

<\x> benchmate dev, mat also seems to be willing to add it

<\x> hyc? me? im basically just a loiterer around here

ah

hashrate has recovered to 458

<\x> though im the one who shilled randomx stressing to overclockers

still down from where it was. no idea what changed

<\x> which is not actually a meme on zen2, its actually the best way to stress amd's fclk

Getting hot and throttling ?

machine doesn't feel much warmer

seems to have no fan. no fan noise

<\x> neway sech1, yeah, i wanna see the day xmrig is on hwbot 🙂

I remember reading it doesn't have fans and needs throttling to do so.

hyc: it does have a fan

the Pro at least

13" macbook pro. dead silent

if I put my ear on the touchpad I can hear the ocean

<\x> getting it on hwbot is huge

<\x> anandtech's cpu suite is meh compared to hwbot

<\x> hwbot is more for competetive oc and world records though so idk if you dont see it as hella based

<\x> seems somebody also already asked about it that isnt me back then sech1

<\x> though he asked benchmate dev to just look at it

<\x> benchmate is not gonna dd it if its not on hwbot first

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heading out for a bit. bench should finish before I get back

<\x> sech1: benchmate kinda solves the offline benchmark issue, you can have a look on what benchmate is

<\x> benchmate.org

<\x> itll also dumb down a lot of things, like adding extra tweaks, core affinities etc

4:24 PM <hyc> if I put my ear on the touchpad I can hear the ocean

the new iCean *ba dum ssst*

benchmark submitted

starting -t 2 931.2H/s

I suppose it will throttle at some point as well

<\x> well if you really have the time for it then sure :p

<\x> i only wanted to see 1t and nT

there was no sign of throttling in the intermediate results

but it posted a final result of 743.4

<\x> but yeah if youre doing a brake-in its not bad :p

<\x> xmrig.com/benchmark/recent

<\x> its faster than my core2duo machine

<\x> xmrig.com/benchmark?cpu=Intel%28R%2…%28TM%292+Duo+CPU+P8600+%40+2.40GHz

<\x> dual core penryn 2.4GHz

that's a pretty old chip anyway

<\x> yeah

<\x> the only reason i keep it is cuz its memed

<\x> its the last thinkpad that can boot and run without intel ME

<\x> i did a few mods on it over the years

<\x> coreboot with no iME, nvme m.2 ssd adapted to mini pcie, newest wifi card

not bad

<\x> boards.4channel.org/g/thread/81119687#p81140428

<\x> i.4cdn.org/g/1618370485501.jpg

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I still have my Intel quad-core dinosaur qx9300

<\x> nvme on pcie 1.0 x1

no nvme

<\x> sata2 is faster

<\x> but not in 4k random read/write

<\x> nvme wins that

yeah most times random I/O is more important

<\x> you can put nvme on most of the laptops of that era

<\x> issue is making it bootable

<\x> you can chainload it though like via grub or clover

<\x> or if coreboot is available then its easy peasy

it's a Dell Precision M4400 - built like a tank

with a beautiful WLED 1920x1200 screen

that's the reason I still have it

<\x> thats highend for that era

but it maxed out at 8GB RAM, so a bit painful to use

<\x> yeah

<\x> fairly slow ram too like ddr2-800 / ddr3-1066

yeah ddr2

<\x> you can raise fsb at best but needs hw modifications

<\x> yeah you can adapt an nvme on this one

<\x> looking at the board

mini-pci slot?

<\x> mini pcie

<\x> you need to buy a 2230/2242 m.2 ssd

yeah those are hardly worth the trouble

<\x> then an msata to m.2, its wired the same

<\x> if it has expresscard, then that can be used too

<\x> expresscard to nvme, itll sit flush on the device

yeah has expresscard

<\x> item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=627243558992

I have a USB3 card in there right now

<\x> youre chinese roght, youll be able to read reviews

<\x> aliexpress.com/item/1005002023877404.html

<\x> see both of them

[M&T3makes sense

<\x> expresscard is just pcie

<\x> heh

so basically this is just a connector converter

<\x> yep

<\x> after this you just need to figure out bootability

<\x> grub/clover will do

<\x> though you can always just use it as any other drive

<\x> maybe mount / on it

<\x> for upgrades, you can still get a core 2 quad extreme for it, but ehh who cares, but yeah its doable

right, just don't care. no hw AES

3 threads xmrig.com/benchmark/4hCkpY

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<\x> a 2242 will fit on the wwan slot

<\x> needs to be adapted though

<\x> lel wrong image

<\x> here

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hm yeah I think my wwan slot is still empty

smart NICs to accelerate blockchain ops ?

4 threads 1722.8h/s brighttalk.com/webcast/663/479465

<\x> the adapter is uhh "msata to ngff" its wired the same

doh. xmrig.com/benchmark/6VHsmS

<\x> lewd.pics/p/O9eM.jpg

single slot supports both msata and nvme?

<\x> its like 2~3$

<\x> nah

<\x> its like this

<\x> before sandy bridge intel offered pcie + usb on mini pcie slots

<\x> with sandy and ivy bridge intel offered msata+usb and pcie+usb on mini pcie slots

<\x> i dont know any of pre sandy bridge laptops that offers msata

<\x> ebay.com/itm/284248748727

<\x> you might need to remove bios whitelisting though

<\x> somebody likely has modded it for the m4400

<\x> lewd.pics/p/zNHw.jpg

<\x> you can check if it has a bios whitelist by putting any unsupported wifi card on the wwan slot

<\x> if it complains at boot then bios needs to be modded

<\x> "No wifi cards are whitelisted."

<\x> according to techinferno thread

<\x> so.. i guess youre good to go but maybe do more research if you really want to put an nvme on a c2q laptop :p

<\x> forum.notebookreview.com/threads/pr…-part-2.425222/page-57#post-9756067

heh

5 threads 2004.6H/s xmrig.com/benchmark/Y3qiM

<\x> hyc this is much more based though forum.51nb.com/thread-1997148-1-1.html

hyc: still no fan during all this benchmarking?

<\x> lol

<\x> the first hours of getting the machine is the time he benchmarked thread by thread damn

<\x> now the next meme is finding the best core with affinities

<\x> though thats too much lmao

lol

6 threads 2179.9h/s xmrig.com/benchmark/5yLsWg

<\x> it does matter though, but yeah this is too much

and yes, running benchmarks is all I do with any newly acquired machine

<\x> like the top 10900kf on xmrig benchmark site binned cores for it

<\x> since some cores are physically closer to the memory / memory controller

I used to mess with thread affinity for openldap benchmarking too but yeah it's a bit too tedious

but at the same time it can yield big payoffs

<\x> theres two guys that were competetively benching their 10900k's back then, theyre out of core clock, out of memory clock, the other guy basically won just by binned cores

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<\x> 8 h/s

<\x> lmao

what's the diff between K and KF ?

<\x> F has no igpu

<\x> same die but igpou disabled

aha. so more thermal headroom :P

<\x> the 10900k guy also disabled his igpu

is that an equivalent disabling tho... totally power gated, or not

<\x> im not sure

<\x> both did bin cores it looks like

<\x> xmrig.com/benchmark/35F6jB

<\x> xmrig.com/benchmark/4p7YoP

<\x> see threads, affinity

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<\x> he binned with superpi

<\x> the 10900kf guy

<\x> core 4 is the best core for him so he affined to that

7 threads 2273.6 xmrig.com/benchmark/3waJhc

<\x> 8 threads done too

<\x> core binning time lmao

<\x> waste hours and hours binning cores

8 threads 2382.5 xmrig.com/benchmark/rskzp

yeah I don't care enough to bin individual cores

ooo. someone benched an Opteron 6386

ok I was wrong. M1 is using 16KB pages, not 64KB

... moved on to LMDB testing now

which is boring, because it all Just Works

<\x> sech1: you emailed hwbot yet?

<\x> maaan, fucking do it plez