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NickvanSaberhagn<moneromooo> “I don't get the botnet deterrence thing. They're doing a public good instead of what nefarious thing htey'd otherwise to.” Because the more profitable Monero is for botnets ostensibly the more people will try to acquire them. Hardening the PoW against botnets may help reduce the economy for them.
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sech1As someone said, this is a free security audit for server admins and home users
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NickvanSaberhagnGingeropolous: Are you guys saying that there’s some talk to increase the 2GB memory requirement for RandomX to stop botnets and/or people like the Azure hacker from dominating the network?
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NickvanSaberhagnBecause as much as a romantic as I am to allow people to mine with their 10 year old pc I definitely would love to harden the network against another Azure thingy
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sech1Azure servers have way way more than 4 GB RAM, especially the ones that were used (EPYC servers)
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sech1Increasing 2 GB to 4 GB will only cut away the old crappy PCs that do 1 kh/s
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sech1Paradoxically, increasing to 4 GB will make the network more vulnerable to cloud mining
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sech1But it will have to be done especially when 5nm/3nm chips become common because they can have 2 GB on chip (or spread across several chips with fast interconnect like Linzhi did for ETHash)
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NickvanSaberhagnGotcha thanks
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hycyes, it's inevitable that we'll need to increase it, and some old generations of PCs will be left behind
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gingeropoloussech1> But it will have to be done especially when 5nm/3nm chips become common because they can have 2 GB on chip (or spread across several chips with fast interconnect like Linzhi did for ETHash) >>> but again, if this is happening, then it will probably also be happening in the commodity HW space as well?
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gingeropolousor do you think there will be a gap between when a "custom monero CPU" will have a financial incentive and when the market will be ready for a CPU with massive on chip cache
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sech1Dual EPYC system already has 512 MB cache between 2 CPUs, so...
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NickvanSaberhagnWow. Is there a known hash rate of a dual EPYC system?
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moneromoooHoly me that's a lot :|
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NickvanSaberhagnHow do you know this ANN M D
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NickvanSaberhagnAMD eng sample is a dual EPYC?
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sech1Family: 17 / Model: 31 / Stepping: 0
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sech12 CPUs
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gingeropolousstill "only" 400 h/s per thread
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NickvanSaberhagnDang now I want a dual EPYC hobbyist mining rig
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NickvanSaberhagnWow at $2500/CPU you definitely get better bang for your buck with multiple old 3950x CPUs
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