dev meeting today?

We can, sure.

And it's just about time.

Anyone around?

o/

not a dev. just a fly.

i'm here

well Im sitting here, but it doesn't appear many others are

I have nothing to report anyway

I am here. Not much to say though.

v0.16 appears to be a pretty good release so far

From looking at action in the Monero subreddit, I don't think that even a single serious problem surfaced so far with 0.16. Pretty solid. (And of course not a serious problem that it *still* wants an update :)

One would wish to get hold of a good statistic how Dandelion++ gets rolled out, and how the percentage of txs broadcast using it grows over time, but probably impossible to get such overview

(And overall that's probably a good thing)

also to point out, yesterday marks 6 months of RandomX deployment

network hash rate is pretty steady, and number of miners has returned to its pre-hardfork level

Snipa: are you around?

technically 6 months of RandomX is today, not yesterday

What month length are you using ?

(if we're going to be pedantic, I want in)

*long rant about our primitive calender and month lengths follows*

We are in leap year. Don't forget.

let's just says 183 days

*say

+1 rbrunner

:)

We could schedule some little celebration for some round number of blocks mined with RandomX, say the next larger round number, whatever that is. I think the success would merit it.

I'd wait for at least 1 year. CNv1 also went 6 months with no trouble

Has something, that argument.

November 30 would be just after Thanksgiving, maybe we aim for a Christmas-ish celebration

early/mid December

or call it Yuletide ;)

150000 RandomX blocks (block 2128433) - June 25th

aligns nicely with Midsommar :)

how is it that we have such incurious users. old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/gu…_on_hardware_and/fsgbld3/?context=3

people download and run software blindly, without looking to see what it comes with

By incurious, do you mean ignorant ? Ignorance is much better than stupidity, and the user you point to seems to have gone straight for it when you mentioned it.

I meant, not curious. Not curious enough to see what everything was in the archive of software they downloaded onto their PCs

they presumably just launched monerod.exe and ignored everything else.

Sure, but faulting someone for not getting up to speed fast enough is just harsh.

The post just shows ignorance to me, which is fine.

And once the pruned ability was pointed out, the user just went and tried it.

it's not about getting up to speed or not. It's about being aware of what you just downloaded and installed.

just like in #monero the other day, when I was telling someone how to plut the output of monero-blockchain-stats "I was not aware this tool existed"

it's understandable to not know how these tools work

it's not understandable to not know that they're sitting there on your drive

It's totally understandable. There is shitloads of crap on my drive right now I have no idea what it does.

There's just so much stuff around, and finite time to get through all of it.

if it was bundled there before you fired it up, that's one thing

What is important is the willingness to go through it when it's pointed out, not whether you knew about it in the first place.

if you downloaded it yourself, extracted the archive yourself ... that makes no sense to me

Meh. Depth first is fine, but breadth first also is.

I downloaded the GIMP, and I search the web when I want to do something not super simple.

It's nornal. There is a LOT of stuff around.

but this is like extracting an archive and ignoring the README file

Learning about it all first thing would be a waste of time.

OK, fair point here.

Our README does not mention pruning, I just looked :D

My fault I guess. I'll add.

;)

Hmm. If I mention pruning, I guess I sohuld mention a lot of other stuff -_-

What we'd want is a documentation, in addition to the README.

should start shaking the trees for tech writers

and maybe launch a CCS for a writer to team up with a dev

i do readmes on websites and github but rarely from zips. the only time it would be super pertinent would be like a router firmware or something?

lots of devs put notes in the release ntoes/change logs. how many people read those? like a psychopath, i actually do.

good! :)

What's a README ?

i treat them like little christmas 🎁

It's kind of a big ask for every user to be an expert on everything they download.

not to be an expert.

to be aware that these things exist.

<hyc> and maybe launch a CCS for a writer to team up with a dev <= Not a bad idea imo

Would need a well delineated scope though.

Or a lot of time :)

"team up with a dev" sounds like you're getting volunteered moneromooo :p