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vert3xo
is there any documentation for monero? i'm working on a personal project and i want to create my own wallet but i don't even know what is the address format
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vert3xo
nvm found it, no clue why it wasn't showing up in search results before
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vert3xo
it's unofficial but should be fine
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UkoeHB_
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UkoeHB_
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erikd
i have my monerod set up under tor and have setup anonymous-inbound, but how do I get a tor seed peer?
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fRit_^
hi, I've found in log those line: ---block added as alternative on hight... reorganize success! What does it mean?
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fRit_^
ok, it doesn't matter
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moneromooo
erikd: Have a look on moneroworld.com, it might list tor peers.
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dEBRUYNE
Are v0.16 wallet compatible with v0.15 remote nodes?
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asymptotically
i'm using an older wallet with my newer node (for ledger compatiblity) and there's no warning
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dEBRUYNE
And syncing etc. also works properly?
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asymptotically
yeah ive made a few transactions too, no problems
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moneromooo
It's the mirror case though. Not sure if it was picked up.
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dEBRUYNE
Ah I didn't even notice asymptotically answer was referring to the mirror case haha
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dEBRUYNE
asymptotically's*
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asymptotically
oh whoops, sorry. i should probably work on my reading skills :P
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selsta
dEBRUYNE: last time I tried yes
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rbrunner
selsta: I started to look into the "help_advanced" story. What would you propose, that the corresponding commit gets deleted on master as well first, or that I modify from the status quo? I don't mind either.
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selsta
whatever you prefer
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rbrunner
Alright, then no delete. With this I can start right now, and wowario still has a contribution counted that gets smaller but not null
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sarang
Possibly silly question: should there be a "community release checklist" that contains all the necessary steps and logistics that should happen prior to and during a release?
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sarang
It's common to joke about how something often gets missed in the process
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moneromooo
pony has one.
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sarang
But if there were literally a checklist on github with things like "someone verifies the hash list signature" and "filenames are correct as expected" etc.
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sarang
then perhaps errors could be reduced
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moneromooo
Step 1. Check against the list.
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sarang
"Checklist culture" is common in aviation and I hear is being applied more broadly in fields like medicine, to great effect
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moneromooo
fluffypony: any chance you can paste your release todo list somewhere ?
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rbrunner
Was also my first thought ... we would forget the list.
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fluffypony
ooooh gosh, let me find it
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sarang
While it might not make sense for everything, I think something like a release, which has a lot of moving parts, could benefit
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sarang
Yes, obviously a list would need to be actually used
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sarang
but perhaps it could avoid the little mishaps that show up from time to time
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UPDATE src/version.cpp.in with new version AND new name (if necessary)
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UPDATE Gitian YML files in contrib/gitian/ to the new version number
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UPDATE README.md with new fork table entry (or at least update the Recommended Monero version)
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UDDATE contrib/gitian/README.md so that the instructions reflect the current version
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UDDATE src/checkpoints/checkpoints.cpp with a recent hardcoded checkpoint
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UPDATE src/blocks/checkpoints.dat with ./monero-blockchain-export --output-file checkpoints.dat --block-stop <recent block height> --blocksdat
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO UPDATE expected_block_hashes_hash in src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp with checkpoints.dat sha256 hash
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fluffypony
- DON'T FORGET TO POST ABOUT THE RELEASE ON THE MONERO-ANNOUNCE LIST
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fluffypony
that one?
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fluffypony
Final steps:
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fluffypony
- Update hashes.txt on website
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fluffypony
- Update downloads.yml on website
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fluffypony
- Update auto-update DNS records
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fluffypony
- Update redirects on downloads box
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fluffypony
and then that
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asymptotically
fluffypony: you write all those reminders on the back of your hand?
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sarang
Anyway, this popped into my head after someone (binaryFate?) asked for a sanity check regarding the hash list signature
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fluffypony
asymptotically: too much for the back of my hand, so inside of my arm :-P
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sarang
Things like that could be nice to have on some big github issue for which there's a list of what got done, when, and who did it
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sarang
for each release
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moneromooo
Yes. I thought it was longer.
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fluffypony
yeah that's not a bad idea - use the checklist feature
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fluffypony
moneromooo: no I think that's it, it was mostly just a list of things I keep forgetting to do
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fluffypony
keep / kept
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moneromooo
ty
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sarang
Even if the maintainers who do many of those items remember to do them, it's perhaps a way for interested community members to double-check when possible
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sarang
and a great way for newcomers to participate if they want
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fluffypony
and it also means it's not tribal knowledge
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fluffypony
but documented somewhere
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sarang
Yeah
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sarang
Keep the master list in the source tree so it can be modified and tracked over time
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sarang
then use it as a one-off in a github issue or some other appropriate platform for each release
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rbrunner
I like that, tribal knowledge (of the fluffy pony tribe I guess) :) No seriously, certainly useful stored somewhere, as the recent little thing with forgetting to change the release name string showed
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fluffypony
maybe a RELEASE.md
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sarang
rbrunner: yeah, having lots of little things to do for a big task is precisely where checklists shine
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sarang
It's still how every stage of every commercial flight you take is done, even when the pilots have been in the field for decades
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fluffypony
sarang: and git is our black box?
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fluffypony
:-P
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kinghat[m]
should the GUI and CLI be released in tandem? seems odd that they are not. i do realize that the GUI is usually not far behind and that everyones hard work wants to be out in the wild as fast as possible.
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selsta
I wish we could put them out simultaneously
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selsta
but until we have reproducible builds someone trusted (who is not anonymous) has to do builds
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kinghat[m]
and thats fine but they can still be released at the same time.
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selsta
I don’t see benefit in artificially delaying the CLI build
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kinghat[m]
to me the image looks like we dont really care about the GUI or its users when in reality its the opposite, which is unfortunate. i mean, i dont have any numbers but id say the majority of transactions, outside of exchanges/pools, are via the GUI. not sure if thats knowable 🤷♂️
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selsta
If we did everything correct it is not knowable
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kinghat[m]
you might be correct that theres no reason to hodl the CLI, technically, but id argue perception is one.
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rbrunner
My brand new 0.16.0.0 Windows daemon tells me as output to the status command "update needed". Really? :)
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rbrunner
Ah, no, sorry, strike that, wrong daemon started :(
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rbrunner
I think I am just too tired. The 0.16.0.0 tells me the same ...
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moneromooo
That's the time based system. Just needs removing too.
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rbrunner
So it's known. Good.
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selsta
Didn’t we remove that?
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moneromooo
Not this one :)
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niocbrrrrrr
I do not get that message from status using windows
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hyc
hm, my v0.16 daemon is saying update needed
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hyc
Height: 2105560/2105560 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.27 GH/s, v12, update needed, 8(out)+31(in) connections, uptime 0d 18h 18m 49s
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moneromooo
I'll fix when I'm not despondent about the state of privacy and how this world is going to shit after having banged us into the ground.
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moneromooo
(trivial, just cba atm)
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hyc
dude... have a drink, chill out for a while
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moneromooo
I've got the first one pat.
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hyc
heh
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moneromooo
Bottle's empty though.
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hyc
I had wine & pizza tonight. well, still have wine, pizza's finished
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moneromooo
Wine and pizza too :D
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SerHack
:- )
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» moneromooo tiptoes out of -dev
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niocbrrrrrr
I am confirmed blind, mine does say update needed
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Guest59457
I created wallet using monero wallet rpc....Why it does not gives mnemonic seeds when the wallet is created?
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fluffypony
moneromooo, hycsnap
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fluffypony
hyc: snap
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fluffypony
that thing
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fluffypony
I did chicken strips, peppadew, avo, feta, and mayo
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fluffypony
perfetto
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fluffypony
welcome to #monero-food
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TheCharlatan
where do I post my nofilter pictures?
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TheCharlatan
selsta, just remembered about the libc minimum version increase - I should have patched that, but did not get to it the past weeks.
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hyc
lol. #monero-food should be a thing
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hyc
TheCharlatan: what can you patch to tweak the libc min version?
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TheCharlatan
from what I can see it's a single symbol "signgam", or rather just a single extern variable. It was changed in glibc 2.23 :
chromium.googlesource.com/native_cl…t/nacl-glibc/+/refs/tags/glibc-2.23
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TheCharlatan
I'm still looking into what exactly we can do to force the old behaviour from glibc 2.2.5
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selsta
TheCharlatan: yep, would be cool to fix
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TheCharlatan
I can't seem to pinpoint what triggered this change in the first place.
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moneromooo
hyc: 6588
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hyc
hmmm
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hyc
so no more warning about update needed on future hardfork?
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selsta
is there a good solution if we will do irregular hardforks in the future?
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hyc
add it to DNSSEC?
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hyc
when we decide we are going to hardfork in next release
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moneromooo
It'll still moan if it sees a newer version in DNS records.
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selsta
Do you also want to PR against branch to avoid confusion / questions?
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moneromooo
You're making a new release ?
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moneromooo
If so, I'll also PR 6584.
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selsta
We can also cherry pick things we want in the release later
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selsta
probably better
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selsta
No release planned yet
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erikd
moneromooo: thanks. i have both onion and i2p peers now